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Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 01-09-2008 06:34 PM

Dick Vermeil
 
What do you guys think of Vermeil being our head coach for a couple of years. Vermeil and Gibbs are very good friends and he knows Saunders very well. Dick Vermeil is a proven coach although he is older than Gibbs. If he wants to be a coach again I believe we could look at him for a couple of years.

GTripp0012 01-09-2008 06:36 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Vermeil is a great coach, but I really doubt he ever wants to come back. He's older than Gibbs.

SFREDSKIN 01-09-2008 06:38 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Please let him rest in peace. How about Ted Marchibroda, Marv Levy, jack Pardee? GW is the man, no one else or the team is headed the wrong direction.

MTK 01-09-2008 06:38 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Is he even interested in coming back??

I doubt it.

skinsfan_nn 01-09-2008 06:45 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
This guy is a joke hes all over the place, I don't think he knows what he wants? Hes talking to the Falcons just to say NO, like he has done to everyone other team for years.

I don't understand why teams are even interested in this guy, he never did much in the NFL to begin with. He belongs in college level ball right where hes at.

Plain and simple answer to the question of him coming to DC: NO

SFREDSKIN 01-09-2008 06:48 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;405339]This guy is a joke hes all over the place, I don't think he knows what he wants? Hes talking to the Falcons just to say NO, like he has done to everyone other team for years.

I don't understand why teams are even interested in this guy, he never did much in the NFL to begin with. He belongs in college level ball right where hes at.

Plain and simple answer to the question of him coming to DC: NO[/QUOTE]

You must be referring to Pete Carroll?

SmootSmack 01-09-2008 06:51 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;405339]This guy is a joke hes all over the place, I don't think he knows what he wants? Hes talking to the Falcons just to say NO, like he has done to everyone other team for years.

I don't understand why teams are even interested in this guy, he never did much in the NFL to begin with. He belongs in college level ball right where hes at.

Plain and simple answer to the question of him coming to DC: NO[/QUOTE]

Right post. Wrong thread?

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 01-09-2008 06:56 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
I'm just saying Vermeil if it is not GW. If GW leaves instead of being the defensive coordinator we could go after Ron Rivera who runs the cover 2 scheme that we have been accustomed to. You have to admit that Vermeil can coach and with a defense to help him he can get us over the hump in a few years.

redsk1 01-09-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
This won't happen but i like Dick Vermeil. He's a winner. I do believe we need to get younger and get a coach we can potentially keep for 7-10 years....hopefully.

CPAlltheWay012 01-09-2008 06:58 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
If Dick Vermeil comes to Washington, I'll be very happy..

skinsfan_nn 01-09-2008 07:02 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=SmootSmack;405341]Right post. Wrong thread?[/quote]

Both you guys are right, I missed the DV! I had just finished watching the PC thing on ESPN.....brain fart, getting old I guess.

On to Dick I hadn't heard his name come up in a long while. Last thing I heard about him he was happy doin the wine thing in CA....?

I hope we aren't going back to the dinosaur age, if I had to guess hes well done. No more tears.

RobH4413 01-09-2008 07:10 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
I've got to echo the sentiments felt here. DV simply won't want to come back.

I still want to stay in house, but the Danny appears to want to go outside. I wonder what his relationship with GW is like.

Also, I kind of think that maybe GW wants to stay at D-coordinator.

To be honest... I could see something like (let's say Joe Bugel leaves too... I mean come on, He is pretty old) Russ Grimm coming in and having the general oversight of the team, but concentrate his actual coaching on the offensive line.

I mean what kind of perks does HC really have? Why would GW want to change his situation. It's not like he's underpaid right now. It just seems like it would make a lot of sense to me.

SmootSmack 01-09-2008 07:43 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=RobH4413;405350]I've got to echo the sentiments felt here. DV simply won't want to come back.

I still want to stay in house, but the Danny appears to want to go outside. I wonder what his relationship with GW is like.

Also, I kind of think that maybe GW wants to stay at D-coordinator.

To be honest... I could see something like (let's say Joe Bugel leaves too... I mean come on, He is pretty old) Russ Grimm coming in and having the general oversight of the team, but concentrate his actual coaching on the offensive line.

I mean what kind of perks does HC really have? Why would GW want to change his situation. It's not like he's underpaid right now. It just seems like it would make a lot of sense to me.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I alluded to the "What does Williams have to gain" mentality in another thread.

That said though, I think it's more likely that he does want it and more likely that he gets it. Unless it's already established contractually beforehand that an assistant will ascend to the HC role within the same organization, the rules state that you have to interview (and don't forget the Rooney Rule).

It can be a charade of interviews while you know all along who your choice is, but it's better for the team to say "We haven't begun the process" than "We know we plan on selecting Williams but we'll just bs with some other candidates for a couple of weeks so no one thinks we didn't at least look."

Make Ray Brown offensive line coach!

T.O.Killa 01-09-2008 07:45 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
I think the world of Vermeil, but I doubt it could be so. If it is not GW, he would be my next choice. The man always reminded me of Gibbs, anyway. As a kid I remember thinking they looked and sounded alike. They also seemed to coach in similar manors.

SmootSmack 01-09-2008 07:49 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Better Dick Vermeil than Brian Billick.

Seriously though, think of all the juvenile thread titles we could have!

Really seriously though, fine coach but not the direction we want to go in I don't think.

saden1 01-09-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Isn't Vermeil 4.6 billion years old? Is this yet another joke?

Redskins_P 01-09-2008 07:57 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;405353]Make Ray Brown offensive line coach![/QUOTE]

I said that in another thread! I wouldn't mind having RB back......

pdid5000 01-09-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;405332]What do you guys think of Vermeil being our head coach for a couple of years. Vermeil and Gibbs are very good friends and he knows Saunders very well. Dick Vermeil is a proven coach although he is older than Gibbs. If he wants to be a coach again I believe we could look at him for a couple of years.[/quote]Interesting, have'nt heard his name brought up though.

skinsguy 01-09-2008 08:08 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
People complained that Joe Gibbs was too old to coach. What about Dick Vermeil? He's older than Joe Gibbs! I like Dick Vermeil. He cares about his players, and he's obviously a very emotional guy. However, I don't see him ever coming back to coaching again. Although, he does have the Al Saunders connection, so who knows? It would probably work, but we would be looking for another coach in a matter of a couple years.

skinsfan69 01-09-2008 09:44 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
All these new coach threads are getting painful.

dblanch66 01-10-2008 12:41 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[B]I still want to stay in house, but the Danny appears to want to go outside. I wonder what his relationship with GW is like.
[/B]
What makes you think Snyder wants to go outside? I've seen absolutely no evidence of that.

hooskins 01-10-2008 01:45 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=dblanch66;405446][B]I still want to stay in house, but the Danny appears to want to go outside. I wonder what his relationship with GW is like.
[/B]
What makes you think Snyder wants to go outside? I've seen absolutely no evidence of that.[/quote]

Pete Carroll and Cowher rumors. Also along with the fact Snyder says it will be a long process because they want the "right person".

SmootSmack 01-10-2008 01:47 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;405454]Pete Carroll and Cowher rumors. Also along with the fact Snyder says it will be a long process because they want the "right person".[/QUOTE]

I'm going to bump my post here:

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/405353-post13.html[/url]

charlielyons 01-10-2008 01:49 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
im praying they do not give it to GW

hooskins 01-10-2008 01:51 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=SmootSmack;405455]I'm going to bump my post here:

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/405353-post13.html[/URL][/quote]

I sincerely hope that is the case, basically formalities and the Rooney Rule. But you never know with Danny. he said he learned patience from Gibbs, the biggest thing I noticed in Gibbs departure conference, I hope he learned to exercise it.

SmootSmack 01-10-2008 02:00 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Williams is the favorite right now. If he wants it, and I imagine he does, it's basically his unless some other candidate blows them out the water. But they'd like to keep as much in place as possible. Starting with Williams moving up to HC (but not President).

MTK 01-10-2008 09:06 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=SmootSmack;405357]Better Dick Vermeil than Brian Billick.

Seriously though, think of all the juvenile thread titles we could have!

Really seriously though, fine coach but not the direction we want to go in I don't think.[/quote]

Yeah seriously, Billick would be a horrible, horrible choice. I'm not a fan of him at all.

gibbsisgod 01-10-2008 09:41 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=SmootSmack;405459]Williams is the favorite right now. If he wants it, and I imagine he does, it's basically his unless some other candidate blows them out the water. But they'd like to keep as much in place as possible. Starting with Williams moving up to HC (but not President).[/quote]I can really see GW getting the job next year. I can also see him struggling in his first year and DS not giving him another shot. By then Cowher will be available and ....who knows.

gibbsisgod 01-10-2008 09:42 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
I should state for the record that IMO it should be GW.

irish 01-10-2008 09:46 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
Is it 2008 or 1978? Maybe Vermeil will coach the Skins if LaVar comes back.

SmootSmack 01-10-2008 09:54 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;405487]I can really see GW getting the job next year. I can also see him struggling in his first year and DS not giving him another shot. By then Cowher will be available and ....who knows.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm a little worried about that too.

gibbsisgod 01-10-2008 10:00 AM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=SmootSmack;405493]Yeah, I'm a little worried about that too.[/quote]
Something else I can see happening is AS getting the job and GW leaving because he thinks it won't happen here so he has to look elsewhere. The only option for Snyder, if continuity is of any significance, is GW. Anyone else and the whole coaching staff gets blown up.

MTK 01-10-2008 12:23 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
I really don't see Saunders getting the job. It will be Williams or someone from the outside.

skinsfan_nn 01-10-2008 12:29 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
I see GW getting the job. He will have more than 1 year, worst case if he has a middle of the road first year. Which I DO NOT expect, he will do much better than that IMO. He will be given several years to get it right. Not another ONE and DONE, no Martys, I think Dan has learned something over the last 4 years.

dblanch66 01-10-2008 12:38 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
It's true that Williams' stint in Buffalo was less than stellar but many coaches have struggled in their first tenures. Bill Belichick anyone?

stone 01-10-2008 12:51 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
No disrespect to Coach Gibbs here but realistically gibbs was "out of the picture" kinda once Al Saunders came in.

Coach gibbs was the middle man for the offense with the power of veto over saunders but for the most part i believe Gibbs took somewhat of a back seat to the play calling once Saunders came in.... I think this is obvious with the 5-11 season in 2006 (saunders 1st year) So in reality, the point i'm trying to make here is: Saunders offense has proven to be effective I believe this is evident in the last 4 regular season games. Cambell went down (Gibbs "boy") and Collins came in (Saunders "boy") and tore it up. Gregg's "D" has also proven itself to be effective so I think that Gibbs decided that it's time to take his bottle of gule home with him because he's done his job and "glued" this team together. Gibbs is a brilliant man and I really don't think we'll see the fruits of his labor until next year and beyond.

freddyg12 01-10-2008 01:01 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=gibbsisgod;405487]I can really see GW getting the job next year. I can also see him struggling in his first year and DS not giving him another shot. By then Cowher will be available and ....who knows.[/quote]

I can see this as well. IT makes sense too, unfortunately. Gibbs will likely contribute his most input as a consultant/advisor in this next year, but after that he'll be back to his old life & probably not as involved. DS may at that point revert to his impatient ways.

Hog1 01-10-2008 01:49 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[quote=Mattyk72;405548]I really don't see Saunders getting the job. It will be Williams or someone from the outside.[/quote]

I agree, good coach, but a real spook. I'm pretty sure he has ties to the NSA.............or the UNIbomber

lespaul 01-10-2008 02:01 PM

Re: Dick Vermeil
 
[QUOTE=freddyg12;405568]I can see this as well. IT makes sense too, unfortunately. Gibbs will likely contribute his most input as a consultant/advisor in this next year, but after that he'll be back to his old life & probably not as involved. DS may at that point revert to his impatient ways.[/QUOTE]

I'm afraid you may be 100% right. Especially the part about DS.


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