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Had a feeling this may happen. Oh well. Jerry's got deep pockets...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3200822]ESPN - Sources: Garrett turning down head coaching jobs to stay with Cowboys - NFL[/url]

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Yeah, I just read this in the Post's NFL Insider:
[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nflinsider/2008/01/garrett_staying_in_dallas.html?nav=rss_blog]Garrett Staying in Dallas - Mark Maske's NFL Insider[/url]

Too bad. I loved the thought of Dallas bleeding out.

Does this mean that he's practically guaranteed the HC job after they get rid of Figurehead Phillips?

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I'm glad he's staying. His playbook is pretty simple:

Play #1 - Hike ball and give ball to the bulldozer, I mean, Marion Barber.
Play #2 - Hike ball to Romo, Romo scramble around and then throw towards TO.
Play #2.1 - If TO is pouting at the time, throw towards Witten.

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Arthur Blank has got some deep pockets too, I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't have a change of heart, if the right deal presents itself.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;409006]Yeah, I just read this in the Post's NFL Insider:
[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nflinsider/2008/01/garrett_staying_in_dallas.html?nav=rss_blog"]Garrett Staying in Dallas - Mark Maske's NFL Insider[/URL]

Too bad. I loved the thought of Dallas bleeding out.

Does this mean that he's practically guaranteed the HC job after they get rid of Figurehead Phillips?[/quote]

I would imagine so. He's probably gonna get the Gregg Williams contract- a 7 figure payout if he's not named successor.

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I think JJ got on his knees.

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[quote=GMScud;409009]I would imagine so. He's probably gonna get the Gregg Williams contract- a 7 figure payout if he's not named successor.[/quote]


you know, that 1 mil. $ clause was just a rumor. he doesn't get any extra $ regardless of whether he becomes head coach or not.

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[quote=Rajmahal33;409008]Arthur Blank has got some deep pockets too, I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't have a change of heart, if the right deal presents itself.[/quote]


Yeah, but at some point you can't get into a bargaining match over a guy like Garret. While he might good, he hasn't proven much. Blank would be smart to continue with his search elsewhere.

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[quote=wolfeskins;409015]you know, that 1 mil. $ clause was just a rumor. he doesn't get any extra $ regardless of whether he becomes head coach or not.[/quote]

Wait, Gregg Williams' $1M clause was a rumor?? I could have sworn I read that somewhere....

Here, it's in writing in this link:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2284695]ESPN - Williams to get $1 million bonus if he's not successor - NFL[/url]

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The $1M clause is probably there, but the contract doesn't guarantee that Williams is the heir apparent now.

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[quote=GMScud;409020]Wait, Gregg Williams' $1M clause was a rumor?? I could have sworn I read that somewhere....

Here, it's in writing in this link:

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2284695"]ESPN - Williams to get $1 million bonus if he's not successor - NFL[/URL][/quote]


you know what, i always thought it was true but i was listening to the john riggins show the other day and he was saying it was not true, that it was just a rumor . anyways, he is my source.;) i don't know what to believe.

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PFT is reporting that garret will make 3 or 4 mil. a year while wade phillips only makes 3

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[quote][B]"Williams did not receive assurances from owner Dan Snyder, even implicitly, that he would eventually succeed current head coach Joe Gibbs."[/B] [/quote]


Here's the full article:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2279000]ESPN - Redskins give assistant Williams three-year deal - NFL[/url]

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Good call by Garrett to stay put. Baltimore and Atlanta aren't exactly the most desirable teams to take over right now.

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins;409026]PFT is reporting that garret will make 3 or 4 mil. a year while wade phillips only makes 3[/QUOTE]

Talk about cutting your balls off. The whole thing with Garrett that I find funny is that when his offense was new (first 1/2-3/4 of the season) he was putting up crazy numbers. As time wore on and defensive coordinators got an idea of what he was trying to do, his offense was less and less effective. Point is, he never adjusted. Does that scream Head Coach to anybody?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;409031]Good call by Garrett to stay put. Baltimore and Atlanta aren't exactly the most desirable teams to take over right now.[/QUOTE]

I'm not so sure it was a great call. Baltimore would have been a good fit for him. The offense is old over there and he could have changed things. The D is stout (aging sure), so he could have done a lot of good there.
In Dallas he will be EXPECTED to do great. If anything happens, he'll be blasted more so than he would deserve. Sure he's a homey there, and he will be the next head coach there, but what if Wade isn't let go for a few years?

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[quote=jsarno;409038]I'm not so sure it was a great call. Baltimore would have been a good fit for him. The offense is old over there and he could have changed things. The D is stout (aging sure), so he could have done a lot of good there.
In Dallas he will be EXPECTED to do great. If anything happens, he'll be blasted more so than he would deserve. Sure he's a homey there, and he will be the next head coach there, but what if Wade isn't let go for a few years?[/quote]

Either way, the expectations are high in the NFL. All in all, he's better off with the situation in Dallas. In another year or so, you're talking about rebuilding the Ravens program.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;409041]Either way, the expectations are high in the NFL. All in all, he's better off with the situation in Dallas. In another year or so, you're talking about rebuilding the Ravens program.[/QUOTE]

I guess that is just where I would prefer to be. I'd rather rebuild with my players, than to use the players given to me by someone else.
He's got a long way to fall right now with Dallas, but he has almost no where to go but up in Baltimore, and Baltimore has some talent still lingering (unlike Atlanta). I guess that's my thought. Plus, I have a head coach mentality, and now he's stuck in the OC position for at least 2 more years if not longer.
Also, if the Cowboys lose next year, it will likely be because the offense took a nose dive, so why would they promote the reason they got worse? He HAS to maintain his current level on offense, and quite frankly, I don't think it's possible. Look at how poorly the offense ran at the end of the season. He was getting figured out.

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[quote=jsarno;409043]I guess that is just where I would prefer to be. I'd rather rebuild with my players, than to use the players given to me by someone else.
He's got a long way to fall right now with Dallas, but he has almost no where to go but up in Baltimore, and Baltimore has some talent still lingering (unlike Atlanta). I guess that's my thought. Plus, I have a head coach mentality, and now he's stuck in the OC position for at least 2 more years if not longer.
Also, if the Cowboys lose next year, it will likely be because the offense took a nose dive, so why would they promote the reason they got worse? He HAS to maintain his current level on offense, and quite frankly, I don't think it's possible. Look at how poorly the offense ran at the end of the season. He was getting figured out.[/quote]

I think one thing we can almost bank on is that the Cowboys won't go 13-3 next year.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;409044]I think one thing we can almost bank on is that the Cowboys won't go 13-3 next year.[/QUOTE]

Why not? They've got money to upgrade positions such as WR, OL and RB, 2 first round picks in the draft. Rumor has it that they are interested in Michael Turner RB San Diego, they could go after Roy Williams, draft some OL and be better next year. Garrett is a pretty good OC. I wouldn't be surprised if they go 13-3 next year.

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[quote=GMScud;409004]Had a feeling this may happen. Oh well. Jerry's got deep pockets...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3200822"]ESPN - Sources: Garrett turning down head coaching jobs to stay with Cowboys - NFL[/URL][/quote]

Can someone please explain what the hell is so special about Jason Garrett? Why is he being offered HC jobs after only one year as an OC?

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I don't like the sound of this.

I wish he would have left the boys. I just don't like the fact that an undrafted Romo throws for 4000+ yards and 30+ Touchdowns out of nowhere the year he arrives.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;409046]Why not? They've got money to upgrade positions such as WR, OL and RB, 2 first round picks in the draft. Rumor has it that they are interested in Michael Turner RB San Diego, they could go after Roy Williams, draft some OL and be better next year. Garrett is a pretty good OC. I wouldn't be surprised if they go 13-3 next year.[/quote]

I could see the Cowboys going 10-6 next year.

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[quote=12thMan;409071]I could see the Cowboys going 10-6 next year.[/quote]

Wow! That's impressive. Don't know who is coming and who is going in free agency, don't know who is going to get drafted, don't know who is going to replace a couple of scouts and a coach.

And already a 10-6 prediction. Like I said....impressive.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;409058]Can someone please explain what the hell is so special about Jason Garrett? Why is he being offered HC jobs after only one year as an OC?[/QUOTE]Because he's an offensive genius.

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[quote=jsarno;409038]I'm not so sure it was a great call. Baltimore would have been a good fit for him. The offense is old over there and he could have changed things. The D is stout (aging sure), so he could have done a lot of good there.
In Dallas he will be EXPECTED to do great. If anything happens, he'll be blasted more so than he would deserve. Sure he's a homey there, and he will be the next head coach there, but what if Wade isn't let go for a few years?[/quote]

B-more is due for a major rebuilding process. Not sure if that's the ideal situation for a young unproven guy.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;409080]Because he's an offensive genius.

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That genius tag would have been removed real fast once he started calling plays for Balt. instead of Dallas.

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This could be good for us:

1) We'll see if Garrett is really that good w/that older O line & WR's. They will likely draft some o linemen & could make some moves in free agency, but for now the starters are on the older side.
2) If Garrett is indeed getting paid more than Phillips, or even if he's not, it's got to be a little disheartening to Wade to know that your boss has basically set up a replacment for you a year after you tie the franchise record for wins. Seems Phillips should be a ways from retiring, so it appears that JJ might have him on a short leash.

We'll see how Phillips handles coaching while looking over his shoulder, and how Garrett handles the O w/out Sparano.

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I think this makes sense for Garrett. As Joey Thiesman/Heisman put it the guys a lifetime Cowboy so the opportunity to coach the Cowboys one day as the Head Coach is to much for him to pass up. Plus Jerry Jones has taken care of the financial aspect and right now he'll have time to develop as a coach.

However as a Redskins guy I'm disapointed, I really would have loved to see their coaching staff get picked apart.

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Personally, I think this is a pretty dumb move on Garrett's part.

First, he had a big year. Head coaching job offers don't generally come after really bad seasons. What if next year isn't so good?

Second, there are no guarantees. Let's say the Cowboys offense struggles next year, but they continue to win. Wade Phillips might get a third year. If the offense continues the struggle the next season, you can feel pretty assured that Jerry Jones isn't going to fire Phillips and hire Garrett instead.

Third, the Rooney Rule. Jerry Jones has to interview at least one minority candidate. He would likely also interview other candidates as well, even if it is just for show... to start. One of those interviews could go so well that Jones decides to hire someone else.

Even if it's for a bad team, I say you take that first opportunity when it's offered to you. It may not come again.

Besides, you can ALWAYS get fired as a head coach and get hired to be an OC almost anywhere. It happens all of the time.

My 2 cents.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;409079]Wow! That's impressive. Don't know who is coming and who is going in free agency, don't know who is going to get drafted, don't know who is going to replace a couple of scouts and a coach.

And already a 10-6 prediction. Like I said....impressive.[/quote]

My prediction had nothing to do with the Dallas' personnel next year. Actually they could upgrade at some positions and I'd feel the same way.

It's just very difficult to put together back to back seasons of 13 wins. Not to mention, the NFC EAST will be the toughest division in football next year.

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[url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-5-82/Jones-basically-fires-Phillips.html]ESPN - Jones basically fires Phillips - Hashmarks by Matt Mosley[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk72;409031]Good call by Garrett to stay put. Baltimore and Atlanta aren't exactly the most desirable teams to take over right now.[/quote]


You are 100% correct. If people thought about it for one sec who the hell would want to be at either place after such horrible seasons. Miami only got someone quickly because of Parcells. Staying put in Dallas will sooner or later give him control over the team that got his ass 3 superbowl rings. Loyalty is hard to find but I would be shocked if he left Dallas after one season.

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[quote=12thMan;409136]My prediction had nothing to do with the Dallas' personnel next year. Actually they could upgrade at some positions and I'd feel the same way.

It's just very difficult to put together back to back seasons of 13 wins. Not to mention, the NFC EAST will be the toughest division in football next year.[/quote]

I'm going on record early by saying 8-8 to 9-7 TOPS. The ENTIRE NFCE is going to be healthy and improved next year. Obviously the Giants are a team to content with and considering their young secondary has been playing well, they'll be an NFCE title contender.

The Redskins will be back at full strength and went 9-7 missing the right side of their line and their best defensive player is deceased. We could only guess how much they could be improved.

Philly is always nasty year after year and I wouldn't expect anything different next year.

Dallas has a team that, statistically, was EXTREMELY lucky when it came to the injury bug. TO and Glenn are another year older and slower as well as Henry and Newman. Sure, they're fielding the same team next year, but I can't imagine any type of huge splash they're going to make that'll improve them above 13-3. I'm a KNOWN Romo hater, but we saw his luck totally run out in December. He couldn't run around in the back field all game and just chuck it up for grabs and have someone magically come down with it.

If he can't fix that "run around and lose twenty yards in sack yardage" and fix his INT problems, they're going to find that while they have a franchise QB, he isn't the future Hall of Famer he's already been anointed.

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i can tell you why any coach would love to take the falcons or the ravens jobs. its called ego. every coach in the league thinks he has something to do with the invention of football. and blue star, you talk of loyalty. the only loyalty Garrett has to Dallas is the one in which Jerry Jones makes him the highest paid assistant in the history of the league. what a slap in the face of Wade Phillips. i would immediately demand a raise, if i were him

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[QUOTE=12thMan;409044]I think one thing we can almost bank on is that the Cowboys won't go 13-3 next year.[/QUOTE]

I absolutely agree. I would be surprised to see them get 10 wins. 8 or 9 I think.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;409087]B-more is due for a major rebuilding process. Not sure if that's the ideal situation for a young unproven guy.[/QUOTE]

I can see your point, but that's how you build a legacy. If you take over a team that is great, no one will care. (see Barry Switzer)
I think rebuilding a team to greatness gets you mega points, and mega cash. Also, I am impatient, who knows if he will ever get a shot later...the NFL is a tough business.

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[url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-5-82/Jones-basically-fires-Phillips.html?lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos2]ESPN - Jones basically fires Phillips - Hashmarks by Matt Mosley[/url]

this article sums up exactly what I meant when I posted earlier. The title says it all - Jones Fires Phillips!