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"There are all kind of rumors and speculation going around about the Redskins pursuing a name coach and shocking everyone with their choice. Could be. With Dan Snyder running the show you never say never."

JLC is picking up a bit of a scent that Snyder may be trying to do something big. *Sigh*

But who the heck could we be pursuing who would qualify as a big name? JLC says Cowher's still not interested. Same with Pete Carroll (if he's even a big name). People thought about Vermeil, but Jason Reid touched base with him and it's not true. Then JLC thought about Jimmy Johnson. He's retired, and probably wants to stay retired.

Who else? I can't think of any other big names. John Madden? But that's equally laughable.

Whatever, I think this is all an overblown crock of crap, but figured I'd pass it on.

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Mike Ditka is a big name coach without a coaching job at the moment...

Same with Barry Switzer...

BTW, they both won Super Bowl rings.

Dennis Green is still out there.

Maybe the Walrus wants to call it a day in Seattle and collect some big time green stuff here in DC?

Maybe he'll hire Sonny and Sam as co-head coaches?

Who knows what evil lurks in the mind of Danny Boy? The Shadow knows...

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The WashTimes says the mystery candidate has been interviewed twice. Apparently he is an NFL assistant. Why the big secret, and who is he?

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Must not be much going on for JLC tonight.

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Early on JLC was all hot saying Cowher then he changed his tune to Schwartz then Mora and finally GW. I'm losing my faith in him or he's got so bad connections, maybe he needs to hire Justin Farga's dad (the one and only HUGGYBEAR). Adam Shefter is the same, Garrett going to Baltimore, blah,blah,blah. I like the way people like Garrett, are making this NFL insiders look like fools. I say GW is still the man, anything else by Snyder would be a screw up as far as continuity goes. This NFL insider/experts are like the paparazzi chasing Britney "trailer trash" Spears around.

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I was glad Mora pulled out. I don't trust Snyder to make a solid decision here. We can't afford to take another step backwards. Turner, Robiskie, Shottenheimer, Spurrier, Gibbs. Too many coaches in too short a time and his previous picks Shottenheimer and Spurrier were dubious at best. I wish Gibbs would have stayed as president and made this decision for Snyder. It would have been madeby now.

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Charlie Weis?

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This is starting to get ugly. At this rate, next years Redskins are going to be closer to "Batman and Robin" as opposed to "The Dark Knight."

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[QUOTE=wordsmithgk;409578] Shottenheimer, ... Shottenheimer [/QUOTE]

Funny that you named him twice, and his name has been rumored as the mystery man on HailRedskins.com forum.

LDS played it close to the vest the last three hires, and the reveal was not the rumored to be coach every time!

In addition, it has been stated often, that LDS wants an experienced former HC.

In addition, it has been rumored that Schottenheimer and LDS regretted their initial breakup.


In addition, the B&G were better off during the short year under Marty, than the following year under OBC.

No one that I know really wanted to see Marty gone after that one single year, either.

No one would question Marty's NFL coaching record with da-bolts, only his continued shortcomings in the Division championship. How soon we forget that da-bolts were right there in Foxboro two years ago, playing in the championship game, and had a dominating team last year as well.

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[QUOTE=backrow;409584]Funny that you named him twice, and his name has been rumored as the mystery man on HailRedskins.com forum.

LDS played it close to the vest the last three hires, and the reveal was not the rumored to be coach every time!

In addition, it has been stated often, that LDS wants an experienced former HC.

In addition, it has been rumored that Schottenheimer and LDS regretted their initial breakup.


In addition, the B&G were better off during the short year under Marty, than the following year under OBC.

No one that I know really wanted to see Marty gone after that one single year, either.

No one would question Marty's NFL coaching record with da-bolts, only his continued shortcomings in the Division championship. How soon we forget that da-bolts were right there in Foxboro two years ago, playing in the championship game, and had a dominating team last year as well.[/QUOTE]

Further, with Schotty, count on Cam Cameron coming in as OC.

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lets see we could higher some big names just not big named coaches. lol. how about Ken Zampese(hoping it runs in the blood) and Rex Ryan.

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To be perfectly honest I would be all about giving Marty his due shot here. Perhaps even at the expense of GW. As much as Id like GW for continuity, he hasn't proved himself as a HC, in fact his last stint was a bit of a disaster. He has been great for us, but I think Marty would have a better chance of 1. having absolute authority and 2. bringing us to the playoffs.

I doubt Marty is a real option, but I would be excited if he were named HC. And to be fair, I would be just as excited about GW, but I would have more faith in Marty.

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I don't like the sound of any of this because all of it seems plausible.

The length of time that it's taking to decide and the excessive interviews seems as if its Snyder buying time to catch a big fish. If it is anyone but GW we'll know that Snyder hasn't changed his stripes.

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Well if Marty's past record is any indication with him we'd be good enough to consistently make the playoffs but would fall short of the superbowl. I wonder how Saden feels about this rumor?

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I been thinking and thinking about who this mystery man might be I think it has to be someone that is not a regular head coach candiate around the league.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;409593]I don't like the sound of any of this because all of it seems plausible.

The length of time that it's taking to decide and the excessive interviews seems as if its Snyder buying time to catch a big fish. If it is anyone but GW we'll know that Snyder hasn't changed his stripes.[/quote]


This statement has been said and argued for and against a thousand time now this week.

Most appreciate that Snyder is taking his time to make sure that he picks the right guy, with the future of this franchise in mind. One (like yourself I assume) might argue that GW is the only "right guy," but none of us can say that for sure. What we know is that the players like GW and that if he were named HC this would presumably go a long way towards continuity.

However, I am sure that he and Snyder have discussed every detail of the franchise imaginable, beyond what you or I can even fathom. So there is a possibility that GW sees a future for the Redskins that doesn't jive well with Snyder's and perhaps Gibb's vision (like some have suggested he may want to do away with Saunders, and this would disrupt said continuity that he as a candidate is supposed to offer).

All and all I agree that this decision will be very telling about the maturity of Snyder. We will not be able to make that call immediately, however, and by no means can anyone claim that GW is the only decision that proves his maturity. In the end we will have to wait to see how this new coach performs to be able to make any statement about Snyder's success/failure in making this decision. And even if the coach doesn't do much, who is to say that given the circumstances he didnt make th right decision. Let me put it this way, since you are convinced that GW is the only sound decision, if GW is the next HC, but fails miserably, will Snyder have made the right choice? Who can tell?

Snyder has a difficult decision to make here. Give him credit for at least taking his time to weigh all possibilities. If he chooses Brian Billick then you can go ape shit if you want, but it may be more prudent to wait and see how things turn out. (Personally I would say to hell with prudence if Billick were hired, and would join you in going ape shit)

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[quote=WillH;409597]This statement has been said and argued for and against a thousand time now this week.

Most appreciate that Snyder is taking his time to make sure that he picks the right guy, with the future of this franchise in mind. One (like yourself I assume) might argue that GW is the only "right guy," but none of us can say that for sure. What we know is that the players like GW and that if he were named HC this would presumably go a long way towards continuity.

However, I am sure that he and Snyder have discussed every detail of the franchise imaginable, beyond what you or I can even fathom. So there is a possibility that GW sees a future for the Redskins that doesn't jive well with Snyder's and perhaps Gibb's vision (like some have suggested he may want to do away with Saunders, and this would disrupt said continuity that he as a candidate is supposed to offer).

All and all I agree that this decision will be very telling about the maturity of Snyder. We will not be able to make that call immediately, however, and by no means can anyone claim that GW is the only decision that proves his maturity. In the end we will have to wait to see how this new coach performs to be able to make any statement about Snyder's success/failure in making this decision. And even if the coach doesn't do much, who is to say that given the circumstances he didnt make th right decision. Let me put it this way, since you are convinced that GW is the only sound decision, if GW is the next HC, but fails miserably, will Snyder have made the right choice? Who can tell?

Snyder has a difficult decision to make here. Give him credit for at least taking his time to weigh all possibilities. If he chooses Brian Billick then you can go ape shit if you want, but it may be more prudent to wait and see how things turn out. (Personally I would say to hell with prudence if Billick were hired, and would join you in going ape shit)[/quote]

I've also heard such tales about Jimmie Johnson being a prospect even though he hasn't been on the coaching/scouting wagon in a while.

If it ends up being someone like him with a name is picked over the "no name" GW, I will be disappointed.

...And do you really think Danny is doing due diligence or just trying to put asses in the seats. If I know his old ways with personally handling the team I'd wager that he goes for the latter.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;409565][url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/01/big_name_coaches.html#comments]"Big Name" Coaches - Redskins Insider[/url]

"There are all kind of rumors and speculation going around about the Redskins pursuing a name coach and shocking everyone with their choice. Could be. With Dan Snyder running the show you never say never."

JLC is picking up a bit of a scent that Snyder may be trying to do something big. *Sigh*

But who the heck could we be pursuing who would qualify as a big name? JLC says Cowher's still not interested. Same with Pete Carroll (if he's even a big name). People thought about Vermeil, but Jason Reid touched base with him and it's not true. Then JLC thought about Jimmy Johnson. He's retired, and probably wants to stay retired.

Who else? I can't think of any other big names. John Madden? But that's equally laughable.

Whatever, I think this is all an overblown crock of crap, but figured I'd pass it on.[/QUOTE]

haha if john madden is coach i am no longer a redskin fan...

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I'm wondering if they are also looking at some of these candidates for assistat coaches? I mean, if they hire GW, they are going to need an offensive coordinator. Just a thought.

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Is it still a possibility that Gibbs will come back? Jeez. We're all lost without him!

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it might be GW, just the GW he will hire will be G W Bush.

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Since he's been interviewed for a 4th time, you'd think Williams is in. But it scares me. Last time the def coord took over for the head coach Gibbs retired first time and they gave the nod to Ritchie Pettibone. RP lasted a year and was out. God forbid same thing happens again.

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I'm amazed they haven't interviewed Offiss yet. :)

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[QUOTE=WillH;409592]To be perfectly honest I would be all about giving Marty his due shot here. Perhaps even at the expense of GW. As much as Id like GW for continuity, he hasn't proved himself as a HC, in fact his last stint was a bit of a disaster. He has been great for us, but I think Marty would have a better chance of 1. having absolute authority and 2. bringing us to the playoffs.

I doubt Marty is a real option, but I would be excited if he were named HC. And to be fair, I would be just as excited about GW, but I would have more faith in Marty.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I wasn't a fan of Marty and his offense when he was here, but after seeing what he did in San Diego with the right personnel, his teams can put up the points and get the yardage with the best of them.

Say what you want about his playoff record, at least he puts his teams in position for the playoffs. I really do believe he had this team on the right track.

I've been on the "continuity" bandwagon all along, but I'd be all for Marty's return to the Redskins.

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maybe the skins want shwartz as their new dc but they have to wait until atlanta picks a new head coach, making sure atlanta doesn't take shwarts.

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[quote=riggoraider;409581]Charlie Weis?[/quote]

Ahhhh, that's one i haven't heard.

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Maybe, Jeff Fisher really was spotted getting on redskins One?

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[quote=theJBexperience;409614]Maybe, Jeff Fisher really was spotted getting on redskins One?[/quote]

Now that would be one big name I'd really love. He's one of the very best coaches in the NFL, in my opinion. GW would probably stay as coordinator if they hired Fisher.

But I don't see how that's possible. We'd have to trade mad picks to Tennessee to get him, wouldn't we? Plus weren't there rumors about Fisher flat out retiring? He has been in the game a long time.

I still think the "big name" rumor is a crock.

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Ted Tepford out of Cal? Jim Fassell? Dennis Erickson? Dennis Green? Tyronne Willingham? John Robinson? Steve Mariachi?

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;409606]it might be GW, just the GW he will hire will be G W Bush.[/quote]

LOL! One of the funniest posts ever!

I was just thinking it through and I can see the Danny in an interview 4 years down the road.."well I am the only owner to have ever hired a former president."

hey, he's local, but on the other hand he's a texas boy so I doubt any loyalty to the skins. GW Bush would be a good hire if the danny decided to turn the Skins into a WWF outfit.

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Dan Snyder has stated he learned a great deal from his association with Gibbs during his second tenure here. I'm left to wonder if he learned what made Gibbs so successful here the first time, aside from inheriting a pretty good team. The man responsible for that success no longer resides in Washington, and before attempting to hire a coach he should make an honest attempt to find an equivilant to that talent. I would feel more comfortable with someone who knows something about football selecting a coach than a big ego, with an open wallet. Him picking coaches scares the hell out of me.

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Maybe it is a head coach currently in the league. Someone we'd be willing to give up compensation for. A jeff Fisher, etc.

Also, Sirius 2 days after Gibbs left mentioned Marty. Said Snyder and Marty buried the hatchet when someone related to Marty got cancer. Snyder pulled strings to get them to the best specialists, let Marty and his family use the private jet, etc.

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the best coach in the league (after BB) is jeff fisher (who we have no chance of getting, but he's better than GW). after that, you've got a guy like marty or GW's second chance, and not much else.

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Other than Gregg Williams, I'd certainly welcome Marty Schottenheimer back into the fold. Daniel Snyder was way too hasty in getting rid of him the first time. I think Marty would be inheriting a really good team, better than what he did previously. With that said, we could really see the Redskins being at least a constant playoff team year in and year out.

Someone else mentioned Jeff Fisher. That is another guy I wouldn't mind coaching the Redskins, but I think he has signed an extension with the Titans. Mike Holmgren? The guy also knows how to coach and he has a Super Bowl ring. He's built a constant winner in Seattle, and we all know how successful he was in Green Bay. That's another guy I would not mind seeing as head coach.

For some of the other names...Dennis Green, Dennis Erickson, Jim Mora, Jr, the only one I'd take from those three would be Jr. Green was successful for awhile in Minnesota, but his coaching stint in Arizona kind of soured me on him. Dennis Erickson has so far been a dud at the NFL head coaching level.

Other names that have been mentioned that are surpising, but I never could imagine theses guys coaching the Redskins: Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson. Both are ex-Cowboys coaches and that just doesn't seem like good karma (if you believe in karma.) I was never really that impressed with Switzer. I realize he won a SB with the Cowboys, but heck, Johnson had given him the keys to a ferrari. It's not like Switzer had to build that team any. I've always respected Johnson. He's one heck of a coach. However, he couldn't repeat the same success in Miami that he had in Dallas. Let us also mention that he's been gone from the game (except for being on a pregame show) for quite awhile now. I just wouldn't see it working out with him.

I still believe Gregg Williams will be our next head coach and all this other interviewing coaching candidates might be for possible assistant positions for Williams' coaching staff. While we're all chomping at the bits to know who the next coach will be, I applaud that fact that Snyder is taking his time and not making a hasty decision. All of us fans want a coach who can have the Redskins as constant winners, and who can win us a Super Bowl or three. If it takes awhile to find that guy, then I think Snyder should take as much time as he can. Of course giving the new regime a chance to get things rolling in the offseason.

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What's up with this Marty lovest? The only way I fathom him coming back would be, that he brings Cam Cameron and let's him run the offense without his conservative interference. If he brings Jimmy Raye then were screwed, kind of like having Joe Walton (remember him) run our offense.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;409644]What's up with this Marty lovest? The only way I fathom him coming back would be, that he brings Cam Cameron and let's him run the offense without his conservative interference. If he brings Jimmy Raye then were screwed, kind of like having Joe Walton (remember him) run our offense.[/QUOTE]

I have no problem with grind it out football as long as it puts W's up on the scoreboard and not L's. I loved Shotty's smash mouthed football. He had a time at the beginning of that season, but after things caught on, it was very hard for teams to beat us when they didn't have the freakin' ball.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;409595]I been thinking and thinking about who this mystery man might be I think it has to be someone that is not a regular head coach candiate around the league.[/quote]
Gibbs wasnt when we brought him in (coordinater for san diego?) and that turned out good.

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After a great 4 years with Gibbs, I can not believe that Dan would want to turn over the reins to Marty again
Most men that achieved what Snyder has accomplished do not look back and have visions for going forward [remember Lot's wife]

[QUOTE=skinsguy;409646]I have no problem with grind it out football as long as it puts W's up on the scoreboard and not L's. I loved Shotty's smash mouthed football. He had a time at the beginning of that season, but after things caught on, it was very hard for teams to beat us when they didn't have the freakin' ball.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=rk3025;409650]After a great 4 years with Gibbs, I can not believe that Dan would want to turn over the reins to Marty again
Most men that achieved what Snyder has accomplished do not look back and have visions for going forward [remember Lot's wife][/QUOTE]


LOL, the only difference is, I didn't really view Marty's one season with us as a failed experiment. We started off 0-5 (much like Gibbs did his first year as coach,) and we finished 8-8. That was with a lesser talented group than what we have now.

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This need to make a marketing splash is indicative of a very childish inabilty on the part of Dan Snyder to defer gratification. He can't even swallow the idea of a ho-hum announcement in the runup to the Super Bowl in order to achieve someting truly marketable down the road. If he doesn't do the right thing here, one can only conclude that he is really only interested in making money. My position heretofore has been that while he certainly is in it for the money, he understands that winning is the best way to do that. I'm starting to think that he feels that winning is more like a bonus that he may at some point slide ass-backwards into, but is not his primary strategy going forward. The first goal is to protect the bottom-line and if he can win as well then that would be great. It's a losing strategy.