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prinzeofmoval 01-22-2008 07:11 PM

L.T. vs Primetime..who's really tough
 
Okay so the past couple of days the chargers have been getting alot of flack from different announcers. Being that i live close thats who i went for after our loss. I really didn't pay it no mind since they're not really my team but one announcer named Deion Sanders got my attention. Deion commented on Tomlinson not being able to play questioning his toughness. Deion giving a lecture on tough is like hearing a lecture on soberiety from britney spears. Deion talking about tough..is this the same Primetime who got ran over by a quarterback..the same Primetime who with the redskins didnt play with turf toe for about 3-4 weeks..the same Primetime who plays corner because he was afraid to be hit as a reciever, or is always a second late on a tackle or could only push recievers out of bounds. To call the leading rusher two years straight soft is blashemy coming out of his mouth. Who do you think is tougher Deion or l.t.

GTripp0012 01-22-2008 07:13 PM

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This is not a good thread, because there is an obvious answer here.

BleedBurgundy 01-22-2008 07:14 PM

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[QUOTE=prinzeofmoval;410862]Okay so the past couple of days the chargers have been getting alot of flack from different announcers. Being that i live close thats who i went for after our loss. I really didn't pay it no mind since they're not really my team but one announcer named Deion Sanders got my attention. Deion commented on Tomlinson not being able to play questioning his toughness. Deion giving a lecture on tough is like hearing a lecture on soberiety from britney spears. Deion talking about tough..is this the same Primetime who got ran over by a quarterback..the same Primetime who with the redskins didnt play with turf toe for about 3-4 weeks..the same Primetime who plays corner because he was afraid to be hit as a reciever, or is always a second late on a tackle or could only push recievers out of bounds. To call the leading rusher two years straight soft is blashemy coming out of his mouth. Who do you think is tougher Deion or l.t.[/QUOTE]

yeah, that pretty much covers it. Look at it this way, most of us have mouths to support the other functions of our bodies. Deion has a body to support the function of his mouth.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-22-2008 07:14 PM

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tougher to listen to?? Deion wins hands down

hooskins 01-22-2008 07:15 PM

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Well I would say I think you are taking Deon's comments a bit too far. I really don't like him, but his questioning of LT is legitimate IMO. The Chargers were possibly playing the hardest and most important game in several years, and LT seemed fine when he was in.

If LT was severely injured then it's ok, but in my mind it is ok to question that move seeing the magnitude of the game. See T.O. playing in the Superbowl.

MTK 01-22-2008 07:17 PM

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Deion was out of line. Without knowing the exact reason as to why LT was out of the game he really needed to keep his trap shut.

redwagonskins 01-22-2008 07:27 PM

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The San Diego Union Tribune put it well:

"Sanders says Tomlinson's injury would have to require surgery “for him to get a pass on this one.” Those are pretty bold words for a former cornerback who avoided contact as if it were a contagious disease or personal subtlety.

“He's never been a running back and had a sprained MCL,” Tomlinson said yesterday. “You tell me what running back has played with a sprained MCL and been effective. You might go out there and try to limp around and play, but it's not going to happen. I don't know how information gets passed on, but until you talk to the source of the problem, what's going on with me, I think it's ridiculous when people make comments like that.”

That Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was willing and able to compete in New England with a matching pair of bad knees was impressive, but irrelevant. A quarterback with knee problems operates at a disadvantage, but he relies more on his arm and his judgment than his mobility.

A running back's sprained knee is roughly equivalent to a quarterback's separated shoulder. Each job has a different joint fundamental to football success. Emmitt Smith was able to win the 1994 NFL rushing title with a bum shoulder, but the brilliant career of Gale Sayers came to an abrupt end because of a 1970 knee injury."

Sanders is a jack-ass.

MTK 01-22-2008 07:32 PM

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Take away LT's cutting ability and he's pretty worthless.

If he could go he would have been out there.

djnemo65 01-22-2008 07:46 PM

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Yeah, plus they have probably the best back-up RB in football waiting to go. LT is an absolute gamer and his proven that consistently over the course of his career so he deserves to be cut some slack here. He may have pussed out (I don't think so) but the point is we don't know, and neither does Deion. For him to go hurling accusations around and questioning future HOFers toughness is absurd.

Campbell17 01-22-2008 10:06 PM

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LT wins here, any player would do anything to play a playoff game. Read my thread on Philip Rivers...

prinzeofmoval 01-22-2008 10:56 PM

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[QUOTE=hooskins;410867]Well I would say I think you are taking Deon's comments a bit too far. I really don't like him, but his questioning of LT is legitimate IMO. The Chargers were possibly playing the hardest and most important game in several years, and LT seemed fine when he was in.

If LT was severely injured then it's ok, but in my mind it is ok to question that move seeing the magnitude of the game. See T.O. playing in the Superbowl.[/QUOTE]

yeah but T.O. didnt play for like five weeks didn't he? We're talking about a week to get healhty enough. U gotta remember this isn't a pick-up game...you have 300 pound plus guys who can lift serious poundage..one hit at full strength and your not say bye bye career..

sancho2613 01-23-2008 02:56 AM

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I was watching Deion's response (not saying I agree with him) just wanted to put it on here in case anyone hasn't seen it....

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irish 01-23-2008 07:04 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;410879]Take away LT's cutting ability and he's pretty worthless.

If he could go he would have been out there.[/QUOTE]

I agree that if he could have gone he would have played. I do think LT needed to take off his darth vader helmet and stand on the side line and at least appear to be interested in the game and his team winning. He looked like a disinterested loser sitting on the bench like that and thats how he opened himself up to critisism.

MTK 01-23-2008 07:20 AM

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Yeah LT is starting to seem more and more like a bit of a whiny little bitch. Gotta wonder when his hall pass expires for that.

redskinsfanatic 01-23-2008 08:46 AM

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when i saw the skins and falcons play in 1991,deion's little ass did'nt play because of sore nuts or something.the skins won 56-17,but hey i did get to see a 3rd stringer named brett favre stink the 4th quarter up!deion is a wimp.

onlydarksets 01-23-2008 09:33 AM

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[quote=irish;411066]I agree that if he could have gone he would have played. I do think LT needed to take off his darth vader helmet and stand on the side line and at least appear to be interested in the game and his team winning. He looked like a disinterested loser sitting on the bench like that and thats how he opened himself up to critisism.[/quote]

That was my problem with him, too. Just silly.

prinzeofmoval 01-23-2008 01:24 PM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;411111]That was my problem with him, too. Just silly.[/QUOTE]

yeah but if you know l.t. then you'll see that he's an emotional player. Nobody on that team wanted this game more then l.t. because of the fallout last year. so maybe just maybe he was seriously hurt emotionally cause he couldn't play...i weigh this as high as peyton manning going to the superbowl last year but he couldn't play cause of a seperated shoulder..he would be equally embarrassed and hurt

prinzeofmoval 01-23-2008 01:26 PM

Re: L.T. vs Primetime..who's really tough
 
[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;411094]when i saw the skins and falcons play in 1991,deion's little ass did'nt play because of sore nuts or something.the skins won 56-17,but hey i did get to see a 3rd stringer named brett favre stink the 4th quarter up!deion is a wimp.[/QUOTE]

how about that slap fight between deion and andre rison..now thats wimpy

onlydarksets 01-23-2008 01:29 PM

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[quote=prinzeofmoval;411300]yeah but if you know l.t. then you'll see that he's an emotional player. Nobody on that team wanted this game more then l.t. because of the fallout last year. so maybe just maybe he was seriously hurt emotionally cause he couldn't play...i weigh this as high as peyton manning going to the superbowl last year but he couldn't play cause of a seperated shoulder..he would be equally embarrassed and hurt[/quote]

Embarrassed? I don't buy that. These are supposed to be highly competitive guys - if they can't get geared up for their teammates, they are being silly.

I don't fault him for not playing. I'm just calling him a sissy for not getting geared up for his team.

prinzeofmoval 01-23-2008 04:38 PM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;411306]Embarrassed? I don't buy that. These are supposed to be highly competitive guys - if they can't get geared up for their teammates, they are being silly.

I don't fault him for not playing. I'm just calling him a sissy for not getting geared up for his team.[/QUOTE]

well at this point in the game what would you have done? maybe he couldve done without the vader mask and stood on the sideline for moral support but i think he might have been sitting down because of a different reason..maybe norv turner? did norv bench him when he thought he can still play???

mcarey032 01-23-2008 11:13 PM

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I generally had no problem with Deion, but come how can this guy go out there and say these things. I mean LT is the premier back in the NFL. He seems in general, a pretty decent person. Between Deion and Michael Irvin, they seem to stick up for the worst players in the league (I.E. Randy Moss and TO). So Deion questions the heart of last year's MVP? Its pretty idiotic. I think that Deion was one of the best Corners ever, but he should keep his mouth shut and let Marshall Faulk and Terrell Davis comment on whether or not LT should have been out there. He can comment on Asante Samuel or Antonio Cromartie, something that he knows about and not be making statements about players who have shown that they are very tough. One final note, LT had a record for total carries over the last few years. He is bound for a breakdown sooner or later. Get off his back on this Deion. I respect you, but you are wrong.

prinzeofmoval 01-25-2008 10:02 PM

Re: L.T. vs Primetime..who's really tough
 
[QUOTE=mcarey032;411839]I generally had no problem with Deion, but come how can this guy go out there and say these things. I mean LT is the premier back in the NFL. He seems in general, a pretty decent person. Between Deion and Michael Irvin, they seem to stick up for the worst players in the league (I.E. Randy Moss and TO). So Deion questions the heart of last year's MVP? Its pretty idiotic. I think that Deion was one of the best Corners ever, but he should keep his mouth shut and let Marshall Faulk and Terrell Davis comment on whether or not LT should have been out there. He can comment on Asante Samuel or Antonio Cromartie, something that he knows about and not be making statements about players who have shown that they are very tough. One final note, LT had a record for total carries over the last few years. He is bound for a breakdown sooner or later. Get off his back on this Deion. I respect you, but you are wrong.[/QUOTE]


is it me or does the good guys get riddiculed more? T.O gets a break..Moss hits ladies and theres no problem(if he was on the raiders and 4-12 it would) but a guy out of the light who is respectible gets a bad rap


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