Rex Ryan 3-4 defense
 

If we make a change I hope Rex Ryan heads up our defense.
All the 3-4 defense teams have very strong defenses.
Maybe that will solve our pass rush problems.

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Browns? Jets? 49ers?

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You need to have the right personnel for the 3-4 to be effective and I am not sold we have all the personnel needed to make the switch to the 3-4 and be effective. I hate the idea of a learning curve because you know how that will pan out on the field. Ugly results.

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[QUOTE=wbecker999;412055]If we make a change I hope Rex Ryan heads up our defense.
All the 3-4 defense teams have very strong defenses.
Maybe that will solve our pass rush problems.[/QUOTE]

You need the right personnel to run the 3-4 defense. We don't have that personnel.

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our defense as a 3-4 right now would probably be

----------griffen-------montgomery-----daniels/golston------------
--washington-------fletcher--------blades--------rocky/godfrey--

and our current secondary

dont know if that d-line would work, and not sure carter could suceed in it, he sure didnt succeed in SF in the 3-4 as a lb and is probably too small to play 3-4 DE. we would need a decent amount of changes in personnel. id think if ryan came we would try to get suggs as a linebacker. id be happy with fletch and blades in the center. is montgomery good enough to play NT? i dont know, possibly. can griffen play DE in a 3-4? who knows. can daniels or golston? dont know. we will bring in new personnel if we change to 3-4

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From a personnel perspective, how hard is it to change from a 4-3 to a 3-4?

One of the reasons Wade got the head job in Dallas is because they were built to run the 3-4 and Jones thought it would be much easier to find a coach that ran that system than have to overhaul the roster.

Interstingly, Gregg Williams is a disciple of Buddy Ryan and Rex is his son, so I'm wondering if that makes the transition any easier as far as terminology. Considering Rex runs the 3-4 (which I didn't know) I'm thinking it will be an entirely different system, terminology and all. Am I way off here?

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Vinny is really trying to turn this team into what he remembers of the 49ers.

This is getting worse by the minute. I'm going to turn my attention to the Caps, Wizards and Nationals.

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Big C -- no Andre Carter?

Going to a 3-4 is a terrible idea, in my opinion. We don't have an abundance of linebackers, and we dont have large space eating dlinemen. If we go Rex Ryan (which I really doubt we will, giving up picks to get him and the 3-4 is just too much) expect our #1 pick to go to a nose tackle, because without a big nose tackle the 3-4 will not work.

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I thought that Baltimore made the switch to the 46 defense last year?

After all Rex Ryan is the son of the guy who created the 46.

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We would need a "Grady Jackson like" player for nose gaurd. Our linebackers are good enough. Carter can play 3-4 DE.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;412078]Big C -- no Andre Carter?

Going to a 3-4 is a terrible idea, in my opinion. We don't have an abundance of linebackers, and we dont have large space eating dlinemen. If we go Rex Ryan (which I really doubt we will, giving up picks to get him and the 3-4 is just too much) expect our #1 pick to go to a nose tackle, because without a big nose tackle the 3-4 will not work.[/QUOTE]

i mentioned in my post that he didnt work out in a 3-4 in SF as a linebacker, and is too small for a DE there. i dont want the 3-4, but if we go that route i think carter will be in a lot of trouble

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Remember how Joe Gibbs was hired back in 1981 and everyone was like "Oh this guy is all about passing, passing, passing. That's all he knows. Look for 500 yard passing games each week from Theismann"...and then we won going heavy jumbo with the Hogs and John Riggins?

That's all I'm sayin'

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look no further than the new york jets to see a defense being forced into a 3-4. its a tough transistion. its likely the main reason jonathan vilma wants out of new york.

i do not believe we have any ideal players in our front 7 for this sheme. especially at tackle. all the successful 3-4 defenses have a big, 400 lb monster to play the nose. the outside linebackers must be agile pass rushes. and the inside guys must be run stoppers who can excell in coverage.

fletch (inside) and maybe rocky (outside) could make the switch. but how long til rocky's healthy? nobody knows for sure.

we had the 4th overall defense this year and now we're gonna overhaul it? i don't see it. and if we do... god help us.

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[quote=SmootSmack;412091]Remember how Joe Gibbs was hired back in 1981 and everyone was like "Oh this guy is all about passing, passing, passing. That's all he knows. Look for 500 yard passing games each week from Theismann"...and then we won going heavy jumbo with the Hogs and John Riggins?

That's all I'm sayin'[/quote]

Are you suggesting that there are coaches out there that are capable of ....adapting their schemes to the personnel they have been given? I ridicule your ridiculousness. Everyone knows good coaches pound square pegs in round holes and are quite successful in doing so.

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Big C: Sorry, I was in a rush and didn't say what I meant to there. Basically what I was saying is are you going to sit him down? That's a lot of money to be sitting on your bench. I just don't think from a salary cap perspective it's feasible.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;412106]Big C: Sorry, I was in a rush and didn't say what I meant to there. Basically what I was saying is are you going to sit him down? That's a lot of money to be sitting on your bench. I just don't think from a salary cap perspective it's feasible.[/QUOTE]


where would he play? i dont know what we would do with him. if he could bulk up he could play DE but i dont think he is fast enough for LB as he failed there in SF

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;412079]I thought that Baltimore made the switch to the 46 defense last year?

After all Rex Ryan is the son of the guy who created the 46.[/QUOTE]

You are correct. I was wondering why people are talking about the 3-4 defense when Rex Ryan prefers to run his Dads 46. I think he ran the 3-4 in places because his personnel dictated it. But this year the Raves ran mostly the 46.
I would think if he becomes the Redskins D coordinator, he would run the 46.

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I do not believe Ryan is stupid enough to come here and try to fill the huge shoes of Greg's or see if thesecond time around with ex-raven Fassel can be better
[QUOTE=Big C;412087]i mentioned in my post that he didnt work out in a 3-4 in SF as a linebacker, and is too small for a DE there. i dont want the 3-4, but if we go that route i think carter will be in a lot of trouble[/QUOTE]

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[quote=wbecker999;412081]We would need a "Grady Jackson like" player for nose gaurd. Our linebackers are good enough. Carter can play 3-4 DE.[/quote]

Carter really struggled in a 3-4 while he was in SF. That's why they let him go.

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REDSKIN FANS...... Isn't Rex Ryan under contract with the Balt. Ravens??? From what I've heard Harbaugh want's to keep him. Everyone chill out cause he's probably not coming here.

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[quote=skinsfan69;412186]REDSKIN FANS...... Isn't Rex Ryan under contract with the Balt. Ravens??? From what I've heard Harbaugh want's to keep him. Everyone chill out cause he's probably not coming here.[/quote]

Probably not. Not unless we hire him as HC.

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I don't see why everyone thinks that Rex Ryan runs a 3-4. I mean the Ryans are known for the 46 defense. Hell Rex Ryan Co-wrote a book on the 46 defense with a picture of the Ravens playing D on the cover.

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