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Zorn becomes SKINS new OC.
Well here is the first move of what could be many. It looks like Al is the first out. Zorn signs three year deal.
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3214785"]ESPN - Zorn leaves Seattle to become offensive coordinator in Washington - NFL[/URL] |
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Awesome...
Now at least we've got something concrete to talk about. I'm really genuinely unsure about this move. Anybody know anything about this guy? |
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I'm good with that.. Former NFL QB, proven success with a Pro-Bowl QB, good rep around the league for his work with QB..
Sorry that we didn't see the 'true' Al Saunders offense unleashed but it is what it is. |
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[quote=RobH4413;412799]Awesome...
Now at least we've got something concrete to talk about. I'm really genuinely unsure about this move. Anybody know anything about this guy?[/quote] .............seems like he did a good job with Matt Hasselback. |
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Named to his current position on February 16, 2001, Jim Zorn returned to where his playing career, and professional coaching career, started.
Zorn has proven his fundamental guidance with the development of Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck who set a franchise record with 3,841 passing yards in 2003. Hasselbeck has become the franchise’s most-efficient passer (85.1 rating) while joining Zorn as the only franchise quarterback to pass for 3,000-plus yards in three consecutive seasons. Last season saw Hasselbeck start only 12 games after suffering a knee injury in the middle of the season and finish the slate with a fractured finger on his left hand. In the interim, Zorn helped the development of Seneca Wallace, who completed 58% of his passes, throw for eight touchdowns, post a 76.2 passer rating and a 2-2 record in the most extensive playing time of his four-year career. In 2005, Zorn aided Hasselbeck to his second Pro Bowl appearance and the NFC’s top-rated passer (4th NFL) with a 98.2 rating en route to Super Bowl XL. Hasselbeck directed the NFL’s second-ranked offense to a franchise-record 11 consecutive wins and in his four December games he posted the fourth-best passer rating in NFL history (135.5), including 10 touchdowns to one interception and completing 76% of his passes. Zorn oversaw a 2002 campaign that saw Trent Dilfer open the season as the starter and finish with Hasselbeck under center. Seattle’s passing attack ranked third in the NFL averaging 254.9-yards a game. Hasselbeck finished the season ranked first in the NFC with a 63.7 completion percentage and second in the NFC with a 87.8 passer rating. Hasselbeck passed for more than 300 yards four times, including a franchise-record 449 in the season finale at San Diego. Hasselbeck joined Zorn as the only Seahawks quarterbacks to pass for at least 300 yards in back to back games. Zorn accomplished the feat in 1979 and 1981. Zorn’s 2001 quarterback crop included head coach Mike Holmgren’s hand-picked starter Hasselbeck, Super Bowl XXXV quarterback Dilfer and 2000 part-time starter Brock Huard. Zorn groomed Hasselbeck and helped the first-year starter to become the AFC’s fifth-rated passer on third-down with a rating of 80.6. Zorn joined the Seahawks as quarterbacks coach after serving in the same capacity with the Detroit Lions (1998-00) where he was instrumental in the development of rookie quarterback Charlie Batch in 1998. Batch’s 88.3 passer rating that season ranks as the fourth-highest rookie mark in NFL history. Zorn broke into the league as an offensive assistant for the Seahawks in 1997. Zorn spent eight seasons in the collegiate ranks before his pro debut. He spent two seasons (1995-96) as quarterbacks coach at the University of Minnesota after coordinating Utah State’s offense from 1992-94. His first collegiate coaching job was as an offensive assistant/quarterbacks coach at Boise State from 1989-91. His playing career began in Seattle’s inaugural 1976 season, starting all 14 games at quarterback. He went on to play nine seasons for the Seahawks before finishing with the team in 1984. After departing Seattle, he finished his playing career with the Green Bay Packers (1985), the Canadian Football League’s Winnipeg Blue Bombers (1986) and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1987). Zorn is one of only eight players inducted to the Seahawks’ Ring of Honor. He was named NFC Offensive Rookie of the Year (1976) and ranks second in the Seahawks’ record book behind Dave Krieg in yards (20,122), completions (1,593), attempts (2,992), and touchdowns (107). His three consecutive 3,000-yard seasons were tops in team history, since broken by Hasselbeck in 2005, and he was the first Seattle quarterback to record back-to-back 300-plus yard games–a feat he accomplished twice. Zorn, and his wife, Joy, have four children, Rachael, Sarah, Danielle and Isaac. Career History: 1988-91 - Boise State: Offensive Assistant/Quarterbacks 1992-94 - Utah State: Offensive Coordinator 1995-96 - University of Minnesota: Quarterbacks 1997-98 - Seattle Seahawks: Offensive Assistant 1998-00 - Detroit Lions: Quarterbacks 2001 - Seattle Seahawks: Quarterbacks Click here to find out more! Seahawks Newsletter hawkmail signup SIGN UP TODAY! Click here to find out more! Contact Us | Fan Feedback | FAQ | Site Map | Privacy Policy | Advertise with Us | © Seattle Seahawks 2002-2006. All rights reserved. Qwest - Spirit of ServiceFord - Bold Moves - Northwest Ford StoresTeam Medicine - Virginia MasonBudweiserWells Fargo |
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whoops sorry bout that other crap at the bottom, but is saunders out?? Don Breaux was the oc but saunders is associate hc offense
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I liked Zorn as a player and now as a coach, sad to see AS leave. So much for continuity.
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I liked Zorn a lot as a player. He was one of the best during that time.
Zorn to Largent - helluva combination. |
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Here we go. I like it. Scrap the Saunders scheme and bring in someone who can truly help groom JC into a great QB.
That opens the door for GW/Schwarz, Fassel/Ryan, Spagnualo/Schwarz, Fassel/GW, Meeks/Ryan, Spagnualo/GW, Meeks/Schwarz, or Tom/Jerry for HC/D Coord. |
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[quote=RobH4413;412799]Awesome...
Now at least we've got something concrete to talk about. I'm really genuinely unsure about this move. Anybody know anything about this guy?[/quote] I'm mixed on this one, don't know much about Zorn. Everything I've read sounds good....But hiring OC and big positions before we even have a head coach in place? Usually the HC likes to pick his guys, we at least heard this is The Fossils guy, so what does that mean ? Unless your Jerry Jones then you put your staff in place, then hire the HC. Seems a little backwards to me. |
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Stupid hire. What has this guy done? I feel sorry for JC. Poor guy gets a new offense every year.
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[quote=skinsfan_nn;412812]I'm mixed on this one, don't know much about Zorn. Everything I've read sounds good....But hiring OC and big positions before we even have a head coach in place? Usually the HC likes to pick his guys, we at least heard this is The Fossils guy, so what does that mean ?
Unless your Jerry Jones then you put your staff in place, then hire the HC. Seems a little backwards to me.[/quote] Or maybe its a sign GW could become HC |
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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;412812]I'm mixed on this one, don't know much about Zorn. Everything I've read sounds good....But hiring OC and big positions before we even have a head coach in place? Usually the HC likes to pick his guys, we at least heard this is The Fossils guy, so what does that mean ?
[b]Unless your Jerry Jones then you put your staff in place, then hire the HC. Seems a little backwards to me.[/b][/QUOTE] Yeah, but 13 wins later-backwards works.. As long as you don't have a choke artist like Tony Romo at QB it should work out fine. |
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You know technically Don Breaux is the offensive coordinator so maybe we're replacing Breaux with Zorn :)
Seriously though, I Would have rather kept Saunders. But if not him, then I like this move a lot. Been a big Zorn fan since his playing days. And now my Zorn rookie card needs to be framed :) |
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Anybody else think this is putting the cart before the horse? An OC before an HC? Maybe the decision has already been made.
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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;412811]Here we go. I like it. Scrap the Saunders scheme and bring in someone who can truly help groom JC into a great QB.
That opens the door for GW/Schwarz, Fassel/Ryan, Spagnualo/Schwarz, Fassel/GW, Meeks/Ryan, Spagnualo/GW, Meeks/Schwarz, or Tom/Jerry for HC/D Coord.[/quote] HUH?? Don't you hire the HC first??? |
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[quote=skinsfan69;412815]Stupid hire. What has this guy done? I feel sorry for JC. Poor guy gets a new offense every year.[/quote]
what did joe gibbs do before he got here? what did jason garrett do before he became the offense coordinator of the cowboys this year? saunders had two years to help this offense improve and he didnt do much. bye bye Al. |
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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;412811]Here we go. I like it. Scrap the Saunders scheme and bring in someone who can truly help groom JC into a great QB.
That opens the door for GW/Schwarz, Fassel/Ryan, Spagnualo/Schwarz, Fassel/GW, Meeks/Ryan, Spagnualo/GW, Meeks/Schwarz, or Tom/Jerry for HC/D Coord.[/QUOTE] I think the move was made with Jason Campbell in mind. We're going to have a new offense so we all may as well get used to the idea, like it or not. I think Zorn will be great for Jason Campbell. |
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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;412815]Stupid hire. What has this guy done? I feel sorry for JC. Poor guy gets a new offense every year.[/QUOTE]
Classic. |
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Could be part of a behind the scene deal with a potential HC.
"prove you can get this guy, and I'm in" |
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I like the move. Props to the Dan for making something happen for crying out loud. He seems to have taken a page out of Jerry Jones' playbook by hiring an OC before the HC.
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Maybe it will start to fall into place soon. I'm anxious to see the final product of this coaching staff.
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continuity to me means keeping both signal callers. I hate it that they gave up on AS even after the O came along well w/Collins & two guys on the right side of the O line that might not even start for the raiders or dolphins. Doesn't seem Al got a fair shake here to me.
On a positive note, JLC said I believe that GW & Fassel like Zorn, so hopefully there is still a chance that GW gets the gig. I hope the Danny knows what he's doing here & is not trying to emulate Jones' Garret hiring of last year before hiring his HC. Maybe this will speed up the process too. |
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Wow another new offense. God what happend to stability! I'm ok with this if we keep GW, but if we hire an outsider for HC this sucks.
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Maybe this is the first move to getting our coach. I find it hard to believe that snyder would pull him out of the blue and then get a Coach. He must have talked to the future coach about him.
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[quote=redskins5044;412826]what did joe gibbs do before he got here? what did jason garrett do before he became the offense coordinator of the cowboys this year? saunders had two years to help this offense improve and he didnt do much. bye bye Al.[/quote]
Well I would have liked Al to run the offense the way he ran it in KC. It was very apparent that Gibbs added the conservative nature to the offense cause he's paranoid of turnovers. |
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This story broke before JLC was able to pull his Blackberry out of his pocket. He must be pissed that ESPN beat him to it.
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maybe the coaches in consideration are in agreement with the hiring?
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Washington Times is reporting its a three year deal.
[url=http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/2008/01/zorn_hired_david_elfin.html]The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/url] |
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[quote=freddyg12;412834]continuity to me means keeping both signal callers. I hate it that they gave up on AS even after the O came along well w/Collins & two guys on the right side of the O line that might not even start for the raiders or dolphins. Doesn't seem Al got a fair shake here to me.
On a positive note, JLC said I believe that GW & Fassel like Zorn, so hopefully there is still a chance that GW gets the gig. I hope the Danny knows what he's doing here & is not trying to emulate Jones' Garret hiring of last year before hiring his HC. Maybe this will speed up the process too.[/quote] This is why Snyder is such a dumb ass owner. He can't seem to feel the pulse of the team. IMO we are just throwing away the momentum we gained the last month of the season. It's change change change. I just don't know how this guy is a billionare. |
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at first i wanted GW to get the head coachnig job. but if they are butting heads or dont see eye to eye i dont know if its a good thing for Synder to hire and just deal with there differences. because if we have a down year next season we could be searching for a new coach next year with Cowher possibly coming back to caoching next season.
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[quote=skinsfan69;412824]HUH?? Don't you hire the HC first???[/quote]
What makes you think this isn't the Offensive Coordinator the next head coach wanted? |
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I know no one (many of you) wants to hear it, but does anyone even remotely consider the possibility that Campbell was asked what he felt most comfortable with and the answer wasn't Saunders?
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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;412845]What makes you think this isn't the Offensive Coordinator the next head coach wanted?[/quote]
Exactly. I guess this leaves only two legit candidates for HC. Fassel and GW. |
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[quote=SmootSmack;412846]I know no one (many of you) wants to hear it, but does anyone even remotely consider the possibility that Campbell was asked what he felt most comfortable with and the answer wasn't Saunders?[/quote]
Yeah good point. I think Zorn will run some kind of West Coast offense and I think that will suite JC really well with regard to his skill set. Saunders system isn't for everybody that is for sure. |
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Well, so much for patience...
I would have thought Al Saunders gets at least one more season to allow Campbell to get a good handle of the offense, get some offensive linemen healed up, and maybe snag a wideout who doesn't drop the ball every other throw. But... that's not the way things are done here under Lil' Danny. |
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[quote=Tha Posse;412835]Wow another new offense. God what happend to stability! I'm ok with this if we keep GW, but if we hire an outsider for HC this sucks.[/quote]
Actually, I think that annual chaos in and of itself is a form of stability. |
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From JLC's blog....
[QUOTE]We've confirmed an ESPN report that Jim Zorn has been hired as the Redskins' new offensive coordinator even though a head coach has not been named. We reported a couple days ago that Zorn was at the top of Jim Fassel's list of potential offensive coordinators and is very highly regarded by Gregg Williams as well.[/QUOTE] [url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url] |
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Should we expect to see a west coast style of offense on the field next year?
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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;412846]I know no one (many of you) wants to hear it, but does anyone even remotely consider the possibility that Campbell was asked what he felt most comfortable with and the answer wasn't Saunders?[/QUOTE]
So you believe that Dan Snyder went to Jason Campbell and instead of choosing to stay with the same offensive system he's been learning for the last two years, he actually preferred to go with his seventh different offensive coordinator in seven seasons? No, I'd say that was unlikely. |
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