ESPN's Mortenson: Williams No Longer a Candidate
 

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3215121]ESPN - Williams is out of running for Redskins' coaching job - NFL[/url]


am i the only one who saw this?

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I posted a link in another thread...yeah...WTF?

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guess i was, i even got the link right, wow i am impressed.....btw, this if true sux baaaad......

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No. I was just getting ready to post it. BTW... your thread title leaves much to be desired.

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;412974]I posted a link in another thread...yeah...WTF?[/QUOTE]

not that tech savvy but i tried, yeah sux big time

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;412976]No. I was just getting ready to post it. BTW... your thread title leaves much to be desired.[/QUOTE]

just a quick deal was surprised it even worked, so was happy in the end, sorry for the crappy title....after reading you are very right

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Jeez....this is kind of a kick in the nuts.

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[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;412980]Jeez....this is kind of a kick in the nuts.[/QUOTE]

imagine having 3 g's in your first name

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This might get ugly. I may run for cover. Women and children first.

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I definitely don't believe that Williams bad mouthed Gibbs. Different philosophies is not the same as bad mouthing.

I have some doubts about this report though, until I hear it somewhere else. Mort, great guy, but not the best source always.

Changing the thread title.

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yeah...that's just too weird...too weird to believe...but if it turns out to be fact, Dan Snyder will have some 'splainin to do!

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[quote=Yellow31;412982]imagine having 3 g's in your first name[/quote]

I dont follow

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Who in the Skins front office is the constant source? There are no secrets at Redskins park.
This process [B]is[/B] becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. Coaches are finding they are fired in the press? That is classy. Gibbs is really involved in this process?
A word to Gibbs, get out with your good name while you can.

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[quote=Defensewins;412990]Who in the Skins front office is the constant source? There are no secrets at Redskins park.
This process [B]is[/B] becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. Coaches are finding they are fired in the press? That is classy. Gibbs is really involved in this process?
A word to Gibbs, get out with your good name while you can.[/quote]

Our FO is the football equivalent of the Orioles FO. :doh:

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All I have to say about this is Synder is going to come out next year looking like either a genius or a complete asshat.

We'll see what happens, I suppose.

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If GW is out of the running, maybe Ron Meeks will be the new HC instead of Fassel. He's got a pretty impressive resume and was here is 2000 as DB coach.

[URL="http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=23"]The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts[/URL]

I think he would be a good hire as HC.

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I'm disappointed. Especially if this stuff about the Redskins creating a smear campaign against Williams is true. GW deserves better than that.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;412995]If GW is out of the running, maybe Ron Meeks will be the new HC instead of Fassel. He's got a pretty impressive resume and was here is 2000 as DB coach.

[URL="http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=23"]The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts[/URL]

I think he would be a good hire as HC.[/quote]

I would be behind the hiring of Meeks 110%.

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[SIZE=1]SOMEONE start a [/SIZE]
posting to please FIRE CERRATO. I believe he is behind all of this with the promotion Dan Snyder recently gave him, he is going to screw our team over more. Damn it Snyder, what in the world are you doing to our team. Thank you for the distruction, you will not be forgiven this time. Thank you for not hiring the one man who continued our continuinty in Gregg Williams. Thank you for turning a memorable season into a firestorm aftermath. I have been so angry at you for what you have done to this organization. Class act reporting lies about Gregg Williams too, as if he would bad mouth Joe Gibbs, the man who endorsed him and he wanted to see succeed him. I sincerely hope these are all rumors for your sake. This is dispicable, and a complete deviated lie from what you told us at Gibbs resignation press conference saying that you were happy with the way that things were going and that you wanted to continue the consistency with the personal, coaches and scouts. You will not be trusted again, so you might as well relinguish your ownership rights to the team as we feel betrayed and lied to constantly by you and your minnions. Pathetic, simply pathetic that you would choose this route, as if you would want to hurt the players, coaches and fans. Congrats, you truly stink!!!!!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;412994]All I have to say about this is Synder is going to come out next year looking like either a genius or a complete [B]asshat[/B].

We'll see what happens, I suppose.[/quote]

I thought I was the only one who used the term "asshat" hahah!

As far as him looking like a genius...its beyond that now if this is true. Belichick is a genius but people still hate him for being a jerk. Snyder officially can't win if this is fact.

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[quote=Mattyk72;412996]I'm disappointed. Especially if this stuff about the Redskins creating a smear campaign against Williams is true. GW deserves better than that.[/quote]

I would be disappointed too, if this was true, but the article cites a "a source close to Williams [B]theorized..."[/B] It was probably his agent and he and GW are probably pissed that they heard about this in the media before it came direct from Redskins Park (shame on Snyder / Cerrato if that's the case. That's bad business and totally wrong).

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skinsfan0201....that's really obnoxious font

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[quote=SmootSmack;412985]I definitely don't believe that Williams bad mouthed Gibbs. Different philosophies is not the same as bad mouthing.

I have some doubts about this report though, until I hear it somewhere else. Mort, great guy, but not the best source always.

Changing the thread title.[/quote]
Ok. So let me ask you this. If the report is true, do you think Snyder would use Williams' differing philosophy and spin it, I guess, in his mind as an affront to Gibbs? Thereby making it easier for him to justify his decision not to hire Williams, so as to avoid what he perceives as inevitable personality conflicts with him and Cerrato?

If people believe that Williams was basically dissing Gibbs, most fans would become somewhat sympathetic to Snyder and be much more accepting of his decision to hire another coach.

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sorry Alvin just blowing off steam after hearing the report! Arghh!!!! I apologize.....

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This is the worst possible news if this is correct. This means a new staff on both sides of the ball and all of the great momentum from the late season run is gone.

I dont think Gregg Williams would disrespect Joe Gibbs though. Gregg Williams has backed Joe Gibbs for the last 4 years every time no matter what. Gregg Williams also stayed and coached the defense instead of taking a head coaching job elsewhere over the last couple of years.

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[quote=The Gremlin;413008]This is the worst possible news if this is correct. This means a new staff on both sides of the ball and all of the great momentum from the late season run is gone.

I dont think Gregg Williams would disrespect Joe Gibbs though. Gregg Williams has backed Joe Gibbs for the last 4 years every time no matter what. Gregg Williams also stayed and coached the defense instead of taking a head coaching job elsewhere over the last couple of years.[/quote]

Who knows. GW might pull a Lavar and start crapping on everyone.

That would be a pretty sad day.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;413010]Who knows. GW might pull a Lavar and start crapping on everyone.

That would be a pretty sad day.[/quote]

Yeah you really never know. Anyone is capable of a fall from grace. And after these last few weeks I really don't know who/what to believe.

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first thank you SS for changing the thread title, was pretty sure my attempt at the link was going to fail, and was quite surprised it worked. then i read the title, what a dumbass....anyway nice back to back posts dynamite gave me a chuckle on both and i agree with the mort thing he sometimes tries waaaay tooooo hard this may all be complete bs.....remember i said may be.........

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Wow. Disappointed if this news is accurate. Now, I definitely don't know what to expect. At this point, not sure if anything will surprise me. Maybe Gibbs will make a comeback. Ya just never know at this point.

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Gregg Williams speaks! This is coming from JLC's blog now. This is really f-ing crazy right now.

[QUOTE] Posted at 10:33 PM ET, 01/25/2008
Gregg Williams

Washington Redskins assistant head coach Gregg Williams said he was considering withdrawing from consideration for the team's head coaching position late last night amid reports citing team sources that he was no longer candidate. As of 11:30 last night owner Daniel Snyder and executive vice president Vinny Cerrato had not contacted Williams to notify him of any change in his status, and Williams has hodsince his final interview 10 days ago.

When asked if he would withdraw from consideration given the drawn out process and recent developments, Williams said: "I really haven't even had time to think about it, but it's something I will consider. I want to discuss it with my players and coaching staff, and at this point I haven't had a chance to contact anyone yet."

Williams said reports that he had made disparaging remarks about former Coach Joe Gibbs during his interview were untrue.

"I haven't heard a thing from (Snyder and Cerrato), but I can assure you that Joe Gibbs is one of the best people I have ever been around in the world and one of my favorite people to ever be around. I came here because Joe Gibbs asked me and I feel honored to work with Joe Gibbs.

"Everybody knows Coach Gibbs is in the Hall of Fame as one of the best coaches who's ever been in this league. But once you are around him you see an even better person than s football coach. I can't believe anyone would even come close to suggesting that I would ever say anything inflammatory or derogatory about Joe Gibbs. He's my idol."

"I pinched myself all the time understanding and knowing that I get a chance to work side by side with him. I wanted to grow as coach and learn a lot more in this profession and what better way to learn form than a master coach who is already in the Hall of Fame.

"What I've learned in patience and how to deal with people and those things - how to build relationships - have been invaluable and will always be invaluable to me and will directly relate to my experiences with Joe Gibbs. With all that being said and done all Redskins know we are a very close knit family and that comes from people like Joe Gibbs and me and I feel tremendously proud that I have had an opportunity to work with Joe Gibbs. I just wish it could have been longer."[/QUOTE]

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL]

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;413003]I thought I was the only one who used the term "asshat" hahah!

As far as him looking like a genius...its beyond that now if this is true. Belichick is a genius but people still hate him for being a jerk. Snyder officially can't win if this is fact.[/QUOTE]

i had this strange odd thought yesterday why is " the dan" taking soooo long to hire a new coach if i recall last time this happened he blew us all away with gibbs. Why would he wait till after the super bowl.....this going to sound stupid.....does he have a connection with belicheck?.......

first time i thought it, it sounded odd, but isn't that the BIGGEST name possible and we all know how dan likes BIG names.......

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This basically says that GW hasn't been told anything and we still have nothing concrete; just rumors, heresay and speculation.

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Can you say fully rebuilding?????? Just Stupid................

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[quote=Redskins_P;413015]Gregg Williams speaks! This is coming from JLC's blog now. This is really f-ing crazy right now.



[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]
Thanks for posting that.

Williams = 1
Mort = 0

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Agree with that Lady Brave

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no way...may I remind us all that so far we've been told that Jim Mora Jr. has been offered the job, and then Fassel was offered the job....not only that but all the media outlets are presenting the same mutated version of the story...I don't buy it

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my head is going to 'splode......i cant take much more of this I am going to bed.....I know gibbs supposedly taught danny patience but come on already its been almost a month!!

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;413023]no way...may I remind us all that so far we've been told that Jim Mora Jr. has been offered the job, and then Fassel was offered the job....not only that but all the media outlets are presenting the same mutated version of the story...I don't buy it[/QUOTE]

always nice to know when you need head support, like when ypur head might 'splode from all this MESS there is always that old neck brace you can put on for support and make you feel just a little better, way to go 40

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;413010]Who knows. GW might pull a Lavar and start crapping on everyone.

That would be a pretty sad day.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you never know but it looks like from the JLC post on this page that he is talking good about Gibbs. I agree that would be a sad day and hopefully the post on page 2 is accurate.

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[quote=Lady Brave;413006]Ok. So let me ask you this. If the report is true, do you think Snyder would use Williams' differing philosophy and spin it, I guess, in his mind as an affront to Gibbs? Thereby making it easier for him to justify his decision not to hire Williams, so as to avoid what he perceives as inevitable personality conflicts with him and Cerrato?

If people believe that Williams was basically dissing Gibbs, most fans would become somewhat sympathetic to Snyder and be much more accepting of his decision to hire another coach.[/quote]
I think GW probably wanted more control than Snyder/Cerrato were willing to give up in addition to personality conflicts with GW & Cerrato. In the ESPN article GW made a point to say he and Cerrato got along fine, obviously trying to diffuse rumors to the contrary.

This GW "bad-mouthing" Gibbs had to be leaked by someone in the interview and it sure doesn't seem to be an accident. I hope this isn't the case and it's the media folks blowing things out of proportion. If it's true that "team sources" are saying this as Mort & JLC are reporting, I will have no respect for both Snyder/Cerrato.