Official press release from SKINS Blache and Zorn to take over OC/DC.
 

Official release from the Redskins in reference to Blache and Zorn.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=34109]Blache, Zorn Named Coordinators[/url]

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Wow. I'm very happy that Blache will run the defense. This is good news. Who the heck will want to be the coach after all this I wonder?

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[quote=wilsowilso;413244]Wow. I'm very happy that Blache will run the defense. This is good news. Who the heck will want to be the coach after all this I wonder?[/quote]

Snyder?

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Thanks Dan......Moron!

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I don't think there will be any less candidates (well maybe one less) for head coach. Blache will carry on the defensive tradition that has been put in place (there's your continuity), Zorn is a highly respected offensive candidate who was no doubtedly brought in to spark the growth of what has been a fairly stagnant offense for years. I think it's all good news.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;413249][B]I don't think there will be any less candidates (well maybe one less) for head coach[/B]. Blache will carry on the defensive tradition that has been put in place (there's your continuity), Zorn is a highly respected offensive candidate who was no doubtedly brought in to spark the growth of what has been a fairly stagnant offense for years. I think it's all good news.[/QUOTE]

Really? As the HC, you are ultimately responsible for what happens on the field and if the team doesn't fare well, you are getting fired. With that in mind, would you really want to go to a team where the OC and DC have been hand-picked for you? And what if you have a system that is different than the ones they employ? Are you going to run yours and have ineffective coordinators? It's one thing for HC's to want to control personnel matters, but I think most people looking at a HC gig would like some control over their fate.

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Wow this is crazy

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;413251]ESPN is reporting the same thing. [B]Well now to find another team to root.[/B]
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3215817]ESPN - Redskins dismiss Williams, Saunders; promote Blache to lead defense - NFL[/url][/QUOTE]

C'mon now. We stuck around through Spurrier, we'll live through this ;)

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LOL. True we did live through Spurrier. I think what gets me is that Snyder hasn't change, and he's the X factor in our team's misfortunes.

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According to the article Greg Williams has been fired.
I guess Snyder thinks Blache is a better coach?
Snyder was qouted as saying he is listening to the advice from coaches he is interviewing from other teams. Not sure I agree with that. Rival coaches do not want to see us do better.

My main concern with this rather strange and process is we are really limiting ourselves as to the HC position. The new incoming coach is going to have accept Zorn and Blache running his to most important units. I do not know of any stong HC canidate that would accept that unless the guy is desperate for a job.
The other possiblity is we already have an under the table agreement with one of the coaches in the Superbowl and he was ok with Zorn and Blache.
This entire process is not ideal.

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I bet the HC has been in place for a couple days already, and that HC gave snyder the go ahead on the coordinators. The Head Coach will probably be announced later today, no way is snyder going to get coordinators the head coach doesn't want. I bet its going to be Fassel too.

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This is clearly a step back for both positions. Neither has had a sniff as a coordinator before. I'd take Gregg Williams over Blache and Saunders over Zorn anyday. Further who hires an O and a D coordinator before hiring a head coach? This is extremely rare for numerous reasons. The Skins will never go to the next level with Danny and Vinny running the front office.

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I don't think it will be Fassel, or they would have announced all three together. Fan sentiment toward him was pretty outrageous and Snyder knows it. Add on that he, according to a few other columns, already feels used about the process..and it could be someone entirely different. I am officially throwing my support behind Russ Grimm.

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[QUOTE=DiehardSkin88;413256]I bet the HC has been in place for a couple days already, and that HC gave snyder the go ahead on the coordinators. The Head Coach will probably be announced later today, no way is snyder going to get coordinators the head coach doesn't want. I bet its going to be Fassel too.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure that is correct. I think Fassel is the fall back guy. I think Fassel has been put on hold by Snyder so he can interview Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and/or Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels after the Super Bowl, If it was Fassell they would have already announced it. He has no job currently or contract tp prevent the move.

I do not want Fassel, buy it seems we are destined for him because no great coach will want in to this disfunctunal situation.
SNYDERATTO Sucks.

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Did they hire two guys that have never been cordinators before? Is that what all of Snyders money get us. Well screw Snyder, he is a full bore idiot!

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[quote=Defensewins;413255]According to the article Greg Williams has been fired.
I guess Snyder thinks Blache is a better coach?
Snyder was qouted as saying he is listening to the advice from coaches he is interviewing from other teams. Not sure I agree with that. Rival coaches do not want to see us do better.

My main concern with this rather strange and process is we are really limiting ourselves as to the HC position. The new incoming coach is going to have accept Zorn and Blache running his to most important units. I do not know of any stong HC canidate that would accept that unless the guy is desperate for a job.
[B] The other possiblity is we already have an under the table agreement with one of the coaches in the Superbowl and he was ok with Zorn and Blache.[/B]
This entire process is not ideal.[/quote]

Im thinking that is the case based on this comment of Snyder's from the article:

"The process of selecting a new head coach continues, although no hire is planned until after the Super Bowl so as not to distract from the Championship game as well as to keep open all our options."

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I must say that at this point, I would like for the team to get the OC from New England. I mean it's not a bad deal to get the guy the ran the offense of the NFL's most successful team in the past 10 years. Besides, our offense was lacking these past four years. I know once again Snyder is going against everything that seems right, but he owns the team and unless we get 30,000 ticket holders to cancel and drop down the attendance at FedEx field, there ain't a darn thing we can do.

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either get a west coast HC (Fassell) because we have a west coast OC now, or get a HC who runs the same defense as blache. does he run the 46 like williams?

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3215817]ESPN - Redskins dismiss Williams, Saunders; promote Blache to lead defense - NFL[/url]

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So does the head coach call any plays if his cordinators are already in place?

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;413264]Did they hire two guys that have never been cordinators before? Is that what all of Snyders money get us. Well screw Snyder, he is a full bore idiot![/QUOTE]

You said it! We are going backwards....again. It did not take long for Snyderatto to dismantle one of the best coaching staffs in the entire NFL and begin to replace it with inexperienced people. Maybe they bring back Spurrier?
One of my main concerns is without Bugel our o-line will not continue to develop. Are we headed back to the Spurrier days of Ramsey gettign sacked every other play?

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Hmm... I wonder if Snyder lured Bill Cowher. I mean, if the HC is in place, it can't be Fassell...can't it?

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we want spagnuolo. he could make our d just as good as williams made it if not better. his blitzing scheme is genius and with our athletes on d we could be great.


zorn will make campbell a superbowl qb guaranteed!!!!

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;413264]Did they hire two guys that have never been cordinators before? Is that what all of Snyders money get us. Well screw Snyder, he is a full bore idiot![/QUOTE]

Did who hire two guys that have never been coordinators before?

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To my knowledge Jim Zorn has never been a coordinator, but the guy is obviously highly regarded around the league. On the other hand Blache was an excellent coordinator for the Bears.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;413282]To my knowledge Jim Zorn has never been a coordinator, but the guy is obviously highly regarded around the league. On the other hand Blache was an excellent coordinator for the Bears.[/QUOTE]

Then how did Balche end up on the redskins? Did he get fired or did he walk?

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;413244]Wow. I'm very happy that Blache will run the defense. This is good news. Who the heck will want to be the coach after all this I wonder?[/QUOTE]

I wanted Gregg Williams but this shows me Dan Snyder actually has some common sense. Not alot of it but it shows me he has enough to promote a guy that was deserving. I wanted Williams/Saunders/Blache but I guess we will have ?/Zorn/Blache. I dont know maybe Snyder has turned a corner. We all wanted Gregg WIlliams but Snyder hiring another deserving guy Blache as DC shows me maybe there is some hope for him.

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Well if you wanted continuity in the defense, this is a way to do it. I don't think Williams would have stayed as DC, so Blache makes sense. I think it'd be crazy to think that a HC hasn't been hired, b/c it would be insane to hire a DC/OC w/o the coaches input. But given than Williams is out and Fassell doesn't seem to be the candidate either...there has got to be another unknown candidate. But who? Cowher? Billick? Schottenheimer? I know those are crazy possibilities, but I just can't believe that there is no HC selected already.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;413286]Then how did Balche end up on the redskins? Did he get fired or did he walk?[/QUOTE]

If I remember right when the Bears fired Jauron, he asked to be let out of his contract and look for work elsewhere before all the opportunities were taken up, and he wasn't sure what the new coach's plans were.

As for Zorn, I don't know what it matters that he's never been an OC before. Everyone has to get their start somewhere.

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[quote=Ruhskins;413266]I must say that at this point, I would like for the team to get the OC from New England. I mean it's not a bad deal to get the guy the ran the offense of the NFL's most successful team in the past 10 years. Besides, our offense was lacking these past four years. I know once again Snyder is going against everything that seems right, but he owns the team and unless we get 30,000 ticket holders to cancel and drop down the attendance at FedEx field, there ain't a darn thing we can do.[/quote]

McDaniels isn't coming here. He doesn't have any ties to Zorn.

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In terms of our coordinators I dont think we've done bad at all, Blache will be and was a very good d-coordinator and Zorn is a young guy who is probably very excited to have his opportunity to shine. With that said, who the hell is gonna be our head coach now! How about Jim Schwartz? I'm sure he would be fine with our current coordinators.

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[quote=GreekSkin;413322]In terms of our coordinators I dont think we've done bad at all, Blache will be and was a very good d-coordinator and Zorn is a young guy who is probably very excited to have his opportunity to shine. With that said, who the hell is gonna be our head coach now! How about Jim Schwartz? I'm sure he would be fine with our current coordinators.[/quote]

Being that Danny boy is supposedly waiting until after the super bowl is over to make the hire of HC. You would have to at least think hes going after one of the two candidates already mentioned that their teams are both still playing.

I would think Schwartz is low if even still on the list of potential HC replacements. But thats just my guess, at this point who knows.

There could still be a surprise in the waiting on the HC replacement?

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[quote=skinsfanzg18;413278]we want spagnuolo. he could make our d just as good as williams made it if not better. his blitzing scheme is genius and with our athletes on d we could be great.


zorn will make campbell a superbowl qb guaranteed!!!![/quote]Do you really believe that we have better defensive personnel than Spagnuolo has in NY? They have one of the top 2 or 3 defensive lines in the league, and probably the best MLB in the NFC in Pierce.

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[quote=Ruhskins;413294]Well if you wanted continuity in the defense, this is a way to do it. I don't think Williams would have stayed as DC, so Blache makes sense. I think it'd be crazy to think that a HC hasn't been hired, b/c it would be insane to hire a DC/OC w/o the coaches input. But given than Williams is out and Fassell doesn't seem to be the candidate either...there has got to be another unknown candidate. But who? Cowher? Billick? Schottenheimer? I know those are crazy possibilities, but I just can't believe that there is no HC selected already.[/quote]

I expect in Danny's mind everyone is still a candidate. Even Williams, I mean what if all the other candidates dry up or rebuff him? I think if he decided Williams was still the best guy he would go out and get him after the superbowl. I'm not saying I expect it, just speaking of Snyder's typical mindset.

I doubt any name is off the table.

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synder must go the worst owner in the nfl

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;413274]You said it! We are going backwards....again. It did not take long for Snyderatto to dismantle one of the best coaching staffs in the entire NFL and begin to replace it with inexperienced people. Maybe they bring back Spurrier?
One of my main concerns is without Bugel our o-line will not continue to develop. Are we headed back to the Spurrier days of Ramsey gettign sacked every other play?[/QUOTE]

There was not a coach on our staff that wouldn't by most be considered good coaches, but we've got to get real. The record of these good coaches warrant a second look when you consider their combined salries with the results they produced. A 31-36 record over a four period is nothing to write home about. We knew when Gibbs came back this day was going to come, I'm more than willing to give youth and inexperience a chance espically after watching the grandfathers of coaching meet with mixed results. The Dallas Cowboys have perhaps the youngest OC in the league, and don't apear to be doing badly on the offensive side of the ball.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;413335]Do you really believe that we have better defensive personnel than Spagnuolo has in NY? They have one of the top 2 or 3 defensive lines in the league, and probably the best MLB in the NFC in Pierce.[/QUOTE]

fletcher is just as good if not better then pierce. but there dline blows ours away, we have nobody on the line besides chris wilson who can get to the qb

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synder a idiot

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I don't like the choices either but, come on.. We can't really say anything because the season have not started yet.. What if Blache and Zorn became successful OC and DC? Then we would have wasted this time..

At least Snyder didn't go and looking around for high-priced coaches..

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[quote=GridIron26;413367]I don't like the choices either but, come on.. We can't really say anything because the season have not started yet.. What if Blache and Zorn became successful OC and DC? Then we would have wasted this time..

At least Snyder didn't go and looking around for high-priced coaches..[/quote]
My prediction is we are 4-12 and everybody gets fired next year, maybe even Cerrato, because Cohwer will want total control.