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mooby 01-26-2008 07:08 PM

The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
This may seem stupid to some, but I was very disappointed to see Saunders and Williams leave when I got home today and heard the news, and I know I'm late on this but w/e. I'd just like to say thank you to Saunders and Williams for everything they've done for the Redskins, Williams especially because he made this defense what it is today and he's made some very great draft picks that will be solid building blocks for the future. I've been hearing a lot of things about Williams lately, that he's been a part of the problem as much as Snyder was, but I wish him luck elsewhere along with Saunders. Mods I checked to see if there was a thread along these lines, but I didn't see any but just in case I'm wrong please merge.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2008 07:11 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I'll always root for GW. He was a huge part of me enjoying that first season with Gibbs back.

SmootSmack 01-26-2008 07:18 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Good luck to them both (and Bill Lazor) wherever they end up

SouperMeister 01-26-2008 07:22 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=mooby;413460]This may seem stupid to some, but I was very disappointed to see Saunders and Williams leave when I got home today and heard the news, and I know I'm late on this but w/e. I'd just like to say thank you to Saunders and Williams for everything they've done for the Redskins, Williams especially because he made this defense what it is today and he's made some very great draft picks that will be solid building blocks for the future. I've been hearing a lot of things about Williams lately, that he's been a part of the problem as much as Snyder was, but I wish him luck elsewhere along with Saunders. Mods I checked to see if there was a thread along these lines, but I didn't see any but just in case I'm wrong please merge.[/quote]I don't think that it's stupid at all. I wanted to see both stay. In any case, I hope that they both land well. Gregg's defenses were the heart of Gibbs 2.0 and Saunders has gotten a bum rap IMO. His offense works if given the chance. I see him landing in St. Louis and resurrecting their offense. Thanks Gregg and Al - I'm sad to see you go.

DieHardSkinsFan777 01-26-2008 07:33 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Wishing Greg and Al only the very best! A very special goodbye to GW I think he was ready for this HC job and got a raw deal. He will be hired quickly. Great days are ahead for GW. Our loss is another teams gain. Hope we don't play his next team anytime soon.

djnemo65 01-26-2008 07:35 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
It's a nice thought. I never really warmed up to Saunders even though I tried, but GW embodies everything I like in football. I'm sure he's going to be successful somewhere else and I'm happy about that.

EternalEnigma21 01-26-2008 07:43 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I'd like to also give a shout out to Robert McCune.

EternalEnigma21 01-26-2008 07:44 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Seriously, though, I think I'll be a Williams fan for a long time, unless he goes to dallas and stomps us or something.

The Gremlin 01-26-2008 08:42 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Thanks to Gregg and Al you guys will continue having great defenses and offenses while the Redskin go back to sucking.

JWsleep 01-26-2008 09:13 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Al never really got it going here, but GW has put his heart into things, and I will miss him. An intense dude, no doubt. Good luck to him--he'll be a head coach yet, IMO.

redsk1 01-26-2008 09:48 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I'll always be a GW fan b/c of the way he gets a D to play together. He gets the most out of the talent he has. I'm kinda scared what we might see next year w/out him here.

AS deserved better than this. I'm not saying that he should stay, as i think that is the decision of the new hc, but AS is a top 3 offensive coord in the league. I know we're all fans here and all but i've got to let it be known to those of you calling for AS head...our offense is not loaded w/ talent...it's got some talent but it's not as loaded w/ talent as alot of us think. AS needed more talent.

SkinDogg 01-26-2008 09:54 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
This is all so sad...this parade of thank you-goodbyes.

sancho2613 01-26-2008 10:49 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Best wishes to them and they'll definately be missed.

hagams 01-28-2008 07:11 AM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I'm still throwing things about GW leaving. Al didn't really light a fire in me until Collins came in and showed what could be the future.
I still see no reason for GW to leave.

rypper11 01-28-2008 07:19 AM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I never warmed to AS and couldn't care less. I do think there is more talent here than there was in KC (Dante Hall?) but I think it would be great in St Louis. As for GW, I really like him and the way he publicly handled the criticism of himself as well as the way players almost uniformly sing his praises (AA doesn't like him but who cares). I'm not a "second favorite team" kind of guy but I hope he wins every game not against us and will cheer loudly for his D.

MTK 01-28-2008 08:54 AM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I wish GW the best. I'll always keep an eye on his career. Hopefully he'll get another crack at being a HC, if not he's still a helluva DC. I wish things could have worked out here but it wasn't meant to be.

dgack 01-28-2008 10:06 AM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
Great thread. Knowing that those guys will probably never read forums, I wish there was some way to let them know the fans really appreciated their work and thought they got a raw deal (well, at least Double G, I think there's sufficient disagreement about Al).

I'll be a big fan of Double G from here on out. If he does end up a Jacksonville, I guess I've got an AFC team to root for.

freddyg12 01-28-2008 10:14 AM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=redsk1;413568]I'll always be a GW fan b/c of the way he gets a D to play together. He gets the most out of the talent he has. I'm kinda scared what we might see next year w/out him here.

AS deserved better than this. I'm not saying that he should stay, as i think that is the decision of the new hc, but AS is a top 3 offensive coord in the league. I know we're all fans here and all but i've got to let it be known to those of you calling for AS head...our offense is not loaded w/ talent...it's got some talent but it's not as loaded w/ talent as alot of us think. AS needed more talent.[/quote]

I agree, but the main things that separated his KC O & here are the o lines (awesome unit in KC when he was there) & qb. Green was a vet while JC was just getting his feet wet.

In addition to needing more talent, he also needed 1) luck, our o line was a mess this year due to dock leaving & injuries on the right side, and 2) full confidence of the head coach; Gibbs & he didn't seem to gell their philosophies as much as JG had hoped. You have to think this O would be so much better next year if AS were to stay & JC matures.

Overall, I will miss both GW & AS, hate to see them go. Both of them deserve better & it's a real shame they couldn't be here for another year.

airsoftking 01-28-2008 11:48 AM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
I'll thank GW for his great job here, Al never really had a chance to shine and I even think it's a good thing to let him go while I think it's a mistake to release Williams after what he has accomplished this year with our D.

redsk1 01-28-2008 12:23 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=freddyg12;414139]I agree, but the main things that separated his KC O & here are the o lines (awesome unit in KC when he was there) & qb. Green was a vet while JC was just getting his feet wet.

In addition to needing more talent, he also needed 1) luck, our o line was a mess this year due to dock leaving & injuries on the right side, and 2) full confidence of the head coach; Gibbs & he didn't seem to gell their philosophies as much as JG had hoped. You have to think this O would be so much better next year if AS were to stay & JC matures.

Overall, I will miss both GW & AS, hate to see them go. Both of them deserve better & it's a real shame they couldn't be here for another year.[/quote]

Full confidence of the HC is a biggie along w/ injuries.

halidouepics 01-28-2008 12:25 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[QUOTE=JWsleep;413541]Al never really got it going here[/QUOTE]

That's because he wasn't granted the appropriate amount of time. Why do so many of our fans think success happens overnight?

Our offense was rolling over the last 5 games of the season when our receivers finally got healthy and were able to practice during the week, and also with a QB that had studied it for years.

Interestingly, our offense was ranked 13th in 2006 and 7th in 2007. I'm convinced we would have been a top 5 offense next year had we kept him.

Ce la vie. Thanks Al and Gregg for the outstanding job you guys did.

firstdown 01-28-2008 12:35 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=halidouepics;414255]That's because he wasn't granted the appropriate amount of time. Why do so many of our fans think success happens overnight?

Our offense was rolling over the last 5 games of the season when our receivers finally got healthy and were able to practice during the week, and also with a QB that had studied it for years.

Interestingly, our offense was ranked 13th in 2006 and 7th in 2007. I'm convinced we would have been a top 5 offense next year had we kept him.

Ce la vie. Thanks Al and Gregg for the outstanding job you guys did.[/quote]
I thought your number on our O ranking looked wrong and i was surprised to learn that our O was ranked worse this yer than last.
2006: 13th
2007: 15th
We went backwards.

So I wonder who gets the job of moving AS 700 page play book.

irish 01-28-2008 12:57 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[QUOTE=halidouepics;414255]That's because he wasn't granted the appropriate amount of time. Why do so many of our fans think success happens overnight?

Our offense was rolling over the last 5 games of the season when our receivers finally got healthy and were able to practice during the week, and also with a QB that had studied it for years.

Interestingly, our offense was ranked 13th in 2006 and 7th in 2007. I'm convinced we would have been a top 5 offense next year had we kept him.

Ce la vie. Thanks Al and Gregg for the outstanding job you guys did.[/QUOTE]

It wasnt time it was Gibbs that kept the reins in on the O. IMO, Gibbs never really let AS do his thing. When Collins came in I think that was as close as Gibbs ever got to turning AS loose.

firstdown 01-28-2008 01:40 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=irish;414274]It wasnt time it was Gibbs that kept the reins in on the O. IMO, Gibbs never really let AS do his thing. When Collins came in I think that was as close as Gibbs ever got to turning AS loose.[/quote]
To be honest the whole Gibbs and AS thing just did not work. Our O went from 13th in 2006 to 15th in 2007 while AS was here.

MTK 01-28-2008 01:47 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=halidouepics;414255]That's because he wasn't granted the appropriate amount of time. Why do so many of our fans think success happens overnight?

Our offense was rolling over the last 5 games of the season when our receivers finally got healthy and were able to practice during the week, and also with a QB that had studied it for years.

[B]Interestingly, our offense was ranked 13th in 2006 and 7th in 2007. I'm convinced we would have been a top 5 offense next year had we kept him.[/B]

Ce la vie. Thanks Al and Gregg for the outstanding job you guys did.[/quote]

Where are you getting those numbers? [URL="http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2007&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1"]In 2007 the offense was ranked 15th.[/URL]

irish 01-28-2008 02:15 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[QUOTE=firstdown;414303]To be honest the whole Gibbs and AS thing just did not work. Our O went from 13th in 2006 to 15th in 2007 while AS was here.[/QUOTE]

It didnt work because Gibbs wouldnt let it work. He never trusted AS to run the O the way it should have been run.

firstdown 01-28-2008 04:42 PM

Re: The Official Thank You G-Will and Al Saunders thread
 
[quote=irish;414329]It didnt work because Gibbs wouldnt let it work. He never trusted AS to run the O the way it should have been run.[/quote]
Well I'm not a 100% sure that was the entire problem but I do know it was not working.


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