What about Tiki?
 

Any comments from Tiki this week? I wonder if Tikis job will be lost because he cannot rip on the Giants any longer. I mean that was his specialty, talking about how Eli sucked, Coughlin sucked, and how they were the most disfuntional team in the league. I personally hated watching NBC because of Collinsworth and Barber. I hate the Giants, but I am glad they won......never thought i would say that.

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Im glad too, and Tiki missing out is delicious. I hope it keeps him out of the HOF.

I have a life time $50 bet with my roommate from last year that Portis makes the HOF before Tiki.

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When I went up to Tom Jackson at the superbowl thats the first thing he said to me, "man, can you imagine how tiki barber must be feeling right now, with knots in his stomach, just sick".

I heard that no one from the Giants would allow Tiki to interview them, I was told this and wasnt watching tv since i was at the game.

I was also told that Couglin said one of his regrets is that Tiki couldnt have stayed on the team and played with them in the super bowl, which is much classier than tiki bashing them all year

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[quote=twinskinsfan;418623]Any comments from Tiki this week? I wonder if Tikis job will be lost because he cannot rip on the Giants any longer. I mean that was his specialty, talking about how Eli sucked, Coughlin sucked, and how they were the most disfuntional team in the league. I personally hated watching NBC because of Collinsworth and Barber. I hate the Giants, but I am glad they won......never thought i would say that.[/quote]

Lol, when I saw the thread title I was almost sure that you were going to be placed on thread probation. However the topic isn't on signing Tiki to play RB for the Skins so my initial reaction is pretty much a moot point.

Anyway, yeah Tiki's "hard hitting journalism" seems to rub on people the wrong way, so a lot of people, myself included, can do without him. Hell I enjoyed watching Keyshawn more then Tiki, and thats saying something.

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Sucks for Tiki.

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[quote=WillH;418626]Im glad too, and Tiki missing out is delicious. I hope it keeps him out of the HOF.

I have a life time $50 bet with my roommate from last year that Portis makes the HOF before Tiki.[/quote]


The HOF has nothing to do with SuperBowls,ask Dan Marino.You might as well pay up know Portis isn't close to Tiki.

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CP still has a ways to go in his career. Tiki is a very borderline HOF guy.

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I saw the report Tiki did for the Today Show and he at least acted professional. I was surprised. However I am sure he is cursing himself leaving.

Of course we are all assuming that he cared a lot about winning a Superbowl. I always got the felling that that guy was more about personal gains(money, HOF, etc) than he was about titles.

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[quote=Mattyk72;418830]CP still has a ways to go in his career. Tiki is a very borderline HOF guy.[/quote]


Portis can't stay healthy,he has maybe ..............2 seasons...at best.

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[quote=Giantone;418847]Portis can't stay healthy,he has maybe ..............2 seasons...at best.[/quote]

Time for some facts.

He only missed significant action in 1 NFL season, 2006 when he broke his hand.

Do you realize he's only 26 and already has 7,715 rushing yards and 63 TDs?

Meanwhile Barber has 10,449 yards and 55 TDs.

All Portis would need is 2 more seasons at an average of 1,367 yards to catch Barber.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;418852]Time for some facts.

He only missed significant action in 1 NFL season, 2006 when he broke his hand.

Do you realize he's only 26 and already has 7,715 rushing yards and 63 TDs?

Meanwhile Barber has 10,449 yards and 55 TDs.

All Portis would need is 2 more seasons at an average of 1,367 yards to catch Barber.[/QUOTE]

Now how are you going to admonish me for using facts in another thread and use them here??!? You know facts have no place in an otherwise irrational setting! I'm advocating a self ban!

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Facts are a bitch huh

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;418852]Time for some facts.

He only missed significant action in 1 NFL season, 2006 when he broke his hand.

Do you realize he's only 26 and already has 7,715 rushing yards and 63 TDs?

Meanwhile Barber has 10,449 yards and 55 TDs.

All Portis would need is 2 more seasons at an average of 1,367 yards to catch Barber.[/QUOTE]

If Portis can stay healthy and win a superbowl with the Skins he's in one day. Who else on our team has a shot?

Landry or Cooley or Samuels maybe?

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[QUOTE=QBall;418867]If Portis can stay healthy and win a superbowl with the Skins he's in one day. Who else on our team has a shot?

Landry or Cooley or Samuels maybe?[/QUOTE]

Samuels maybe, but it'd be a stretch since none of our offenses were elite during his time.. It's so hard for TE to get in and Cooley is behind Gonzalez, Gates and Witten as top of the game right now. Too soon to tell for Landry..

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tiki is the tim duncan of football...a good player but was boring to watch.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;418828]The HOF has nothing to do with SuperBowls,ask Dan Marino.You might as well pay up know Portis isn't close to Tiki.[/QUOTE]Tiki is not a HOF'er.

As for how he feels, screw him. Screw his brother, his mother, his uncle and grandpa.

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[QUOTE=coggs;418880]Tiki is not a HOF'er.

As for how he feels, screw him. Screw his brother, his mother, his uncle and grandpa.[/QUOTE]

Wow, why Grandpa gotta get flack too? He didn't do anything! :cheeky-sm

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I dont think screwing barber is enough. Like Thornton Melon said, "The Football team at the HS I went to...they were tough. After they sacked the quarterback, they went after his family."

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[QUOTE=coggs;418893]I dont think screwing barber is enough. Like Thornton Melon said, "The Football team at the HS I went to...they were tough. After they sacked the quarterback, they went after his family."[/QUOTE]

LOL, nice Thornton Melon reference.. 3/4 of the board won't get that or a 'Triple Lindy' reference..

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[quote=coggs;418893]I dont think screwing barber is enough. Like Thornton Melon said, "The Football team at the HS I went to...they were tough. After they sacked the quarterback, they went after his family."[/quote]

my fave TM quote is,"i just got rid of vanessa.i feel like i just got paroled!"

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[quote=Giantone;418847]Portis can't stay healthy,he has maybe ..............2 seasons...at best.[/quote]
Not all running backs throw in the towel early. These backs are called men, not boys.

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He seems to have a good quality professionalism. I like him as a journalist whenever he is not doing sports. Like everyone said, seems like all he wants to do is burn the Giants...

I can deff see CP in the HOF before Tiki. Tiki had skill but lacked one thing that Portis had... well two things: CP can block almost as good at Chris Samuels in the backfield, and CP has more heart than the entire Giants backfield combined, including Tiki from a few years ago. He plays for the team, not himself and its evident in how hard he plays. Sorry, but there is just no comparision between him and Tiki.

[QUOTE=Giantone;418847]Portis can't stay healthy,he has maybe ..............2 seasons...at best.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, and I'm going out on a limb and say the same about Eli. But he wont leave due to injury, just inconsistency

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[quote=Paintrain;418894]LOL, nice Thornton Melon reference.. 3/4 of the board won't get that or a 'Triple Lindy' reference..[/quote]



Great movie!

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[quote=QBall;418867]If Portis can stay healthy and win a superbowl with the Skins he's in one day. Who else on our team has a shot?

Landry or Cooley or Samuels maybe?[/quote]

Jason Campbell!!!

But seriously, not many come to mind . . . I guess maybe London Fletcher, but thats a stretch I think.

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[quote=Stuck in TX;418949]

[QUOTE]
I can deff see CP in the HOF before Tiki. Tiki had skill but lacked one thing that Portis had... well two things: CP can block almost as good at Chris Samuels in the backfield, and CP has more heart than the entire Giants backfield combined, including Tiki from a few years ago. He plays for the team, not himself and its evident in how hard he plays. Sorry, but there is just no comparision between him and Tiki.
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Oh yeah, and I'm going out on a limb and say the same about Eli. But he wont leave due to injury, just inconsistency[/quote]






Just say something nasty about his mother and get it over with.:goodjob:


All I can say about Eli is when he goes he'll go with a super bowl and a MVP trophy.:laughing2

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[quote=coggs;418893]I dont think screwing barber is enough. Like Thornton Melon said, "The Football team at the HS I went to...they were tough. After they sacked the quarterback, they went after his family."[/quote]


Oh well ................he'll get in before Portis.

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Now that the Redskins offense is going to the West Coast System, Portis will have over 10,000 yards in 2 seasons, AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!! I see that people have a short memory, if people can remember, before Portis came to the Redskins he was shredding up the league in a West Coast System, So to answer another question, Portis is probably the only player right now that has a chance to be a HOF'er.

Giantone, if you are so confident about Tiki being a HOF'er than please back it up with something. At least you were given stats as to why Portis is a better back than Tiki. And it's not fair to compare Marino's career to Tiki, that's an insult to Mr. Marino. Marino was statistically the best QB ever to play the game, and I am sorry but Tiki is not even a pimple on Emmit Smith's ass...

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[quote=Redskins8588;418995]Now that the Redskins offense is going to the West Coast System, Portis will have over 10,000 yards in 2 seasons, AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!! I see that people have a short memory, if people can remember, before Portis came to the Redskins he was shredding up the league in a West Coast System, So to answer another question, Portis is probably the only player right now that has a chance to be a HOF'er.

Giantone, if you are so confident about Tiki being a HOF'er than please back it up with something. At least you were given stats as to why Portis is a better back than Tiki. And it's not fair to compare Marino's career to Tiki, that's an insult to Mr. Marino. Marino was statistically the best QB ever to play the game, and I am sorry but Tiki is not even a pimple on Emmit Smith's ass...[/quote]

No .......I did'nt compare Tiki to Marino ,somebody mention super bowls and he would'nt get in becuse he did'nt have one,just a fact to prove them incorrect.

Mr Marino is now second to Brett Farve

................I never said anything about Emmit so try and keep up but no matter how far behind Emmit he is ............portis is twice that.

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Portis........


Stat page..................

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/clintonportis/profile?id=POR792942]Clinton Portis[/url]

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[quote=Giantone]The HOF has nothing to do with SuperBowls,ask Dan Marino.[/quote]
That quote right there is where you compared Tiki to Marino. By stating this you are saying that Tiki has stats just as good as Marino, therefor Tiki does not need to win a super bowl to get in the HOF.

You are correct that this year FAVRE and not [quote=Giantone]Farve[/quote] did pass Marino. Favre does have a superbow win so even if he didn't surpass Marino statistically he still would be a HOF'er.

Again, you are correct that you never mentioned Emmit Smith, but since Tiki was a running back I felt that he should be compared to a running back that has the stats that Tiki can only dream about. Hell, Tiki can only dream about seeing the endzone as many times as Portis did.

[quote=Giantone]no matter how far behind Emmit he is ............portis is twice that.[/quote] Ok, are you in remedial math by chance? If so I will try to make this simple for you.

Emmit Smith - 18,355 yards
Tiki Barber - 10,449 yards
Clinton Portis - 7,715 yards

So if you do the math correctly Portis is not twice what Tiki is behind Emmit. Now I will admit that I do not think in any way that Portis will catch up to Emmit, but I KNOW FOR A FACT Portis will surpass Tiki!!! Remember Portis only needs 2,734 more yards just to tie with Tiki, which can be done like Matty said in 2 years for him...

Oh, and I am still waiting for your support as to why Tiki is a HOF running back? Thanks for listing CP's stat page, but I already know how good he is...

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[quote=Giantone;418997]No .......[B]I did'nt compare Tiki to Marino ,somebody mention super bowls and he would'nt get in becuse he did'nt have one,just a fact to prove them incorrect.[/B]

Mr Marino is now second to Brett Farve

................I never said anything about Emmit so try and keep up but no matter how far behind Emmit he is ............portis is twice that.[/quote]


I think that was me you are referring to, but that is not exactly what I meant. Sorry if I was a bit unclear. I meant only that by ending his career early and missing out on a successful Giants season (and yes their Super Bowl victory too) that he would have less of a chance then if he had stuck it out even one more year. I know that you don't need to win a SB to get into the HOF, but it sure doesn't hurt, especially when your overall stats are fairly unimpressive (as are Tiki's). What records does he even hold? I'm sure he has some Giant's records. Portis on the other hand:

"Portis rushed for over 1,500 yards in each of his first two seasons with the Broncos, averaging 5.5 yards per carry in that span. The latter is an NFL record for a running back's first two seasons. On December 7, 2003, Portis scored a staggering 5 rushing touchdowns in a 45-27 win over the 11-1 Kansas City Chiefs. No running back in the NFL has scored more than 4 rushing TDs since."

Redskins' franchise record for the most rushing yards in a season with 1,516 yards and tied the most 100+ yard games in a season (5). He ended the game with 112 rushing yards. By rushing for 1,516 yards, he became only the third runner in league history to reach 1,500 yards in three of his first four seasons.

He was offensive Rookie of the Year.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Portis]Clinton Portis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

He'll be 27 next year, and I wouldn't be surprised if he starts for 3 more years. That is plenty of time to climb up the All Time lists and set new records. No, CP is not Emmit Smith, nor is he close, but he is certainly on pace to be a future Hall of Famer.

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[QUOTE=WillH;419068]I think that was me you are referring to, but that is not exactly what I meant. Sorry if I was a bit unclear. I meant only that by ending his career early and missing out on a successful Giants season (and yes their Super Bowl victory too) that he would have less of a chance then if he had stuck it out even one more year. I know that you don't need to win a SB to get into the HOF, but it sure doesn't hurt, especially when your overall stats are fairly unimpressive (as are Tiki's). What records does he even hold? I'm sure he has some Giant's records. Portis on the other hand:

"Portis rushed for over 1,500 yards in each of his first two seasons with the Broncos, averaging 5.5 yards per carry in that span. The latter is an NFL record for a running back's first two seasons. On December 7, 2003, Portis scored a staggering 5 rushing touchdowns in a 45-27 win over the 11-1 Kansas City Chiefs. No running back in the NFL has scored more than 4 rushing TDs since."

Redskins' franchise record for the most rushing yards in a season with 1,516 yards and tied the most 100+ yard games in a season (5). He ended the game with 112 rushing yards. By rushing for 1,516 yards, he became only the third runner in league history to reach 1,500 yards in three of his first four seasons.

He was offensive Rookie of the Year.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Portis]Clinton Portis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

He'll be 27 next year, and I wouldn't be surprised if he starts for 3 more years. That is plenty of time to climb up the All Time lists and set new records. No, CP is not Emmit Smith, nor is he close, but he is certainly on pace to be a future Hall of Famer.[/QUOTE]

Yeah!!! What he said!!!