Is there a Hester in the '08 draft?
 

It seems fairly obvious that Rock is going to move on and Randel-El is not the dynamic punt returner we thought we were getting a couple of years ago. I don't watch ANY college football so is there a Hester like player coming out we can pick up as a return specialist that will be worth the selection?

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DeSean Jackson from Cal

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I wouldn't mind seeing Vinny spend a 3rd to get a game changing return man if one is still out there by then. Winning the field position battle with a good return game can be huge.

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[quote=SouperMeister;424052]I wouldn't mind seeing Vinny spend a [B]3rd[/B] to get a game changing return man if one is still out there by then. Winning the field position battle with a good return game can be huge.[/quote]I don't think any good returners would be around by then. If you want a decent one, maybe, but a Hester like, then no way that late.

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[quote=TheBigD;424051]DeSean Jackson from Cal[/quote]

absolutley, desean is sick.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COVag2MzZqk]YouTube - Desean Jackson: The 1 to Watch (Punt Returns)[/url]

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[quote=TheBigD;424053]I don't think any good returners would be around by then. If you want a decent one, maybe, but a Hester like, then no way that late.[/quote]Dante Hall and our own B. Mitch were 5th round picks once upon a time. Josh Cribbs was an undrafted free agent and Leon Washington was a 4th rounder, further evidence that even today, great return specialists can slip through the cracks.

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Guys don't get drafted before the 3rd round on return ability alone.
Ted Ginn has some potential at WR and Hester was supposed to be a starter at Cornerback.

The last return only specialist I can remember going high is Jerome "Don't Make Me Choke a Bitch" Mathis. He was drafted in the 3rd round after running one of the fastest 40's at the combine ever.
He also made the probowl as a return man his rookie year.


I think there will be plenty world class sprinters we can use to fill the void.
Think Brown from a few seasons ago or Michael Lewis who use to be with the saints.

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[quote=SouperMeister;424056]Dante Hall and our own B. Mitch were 5th round picks once upon a time. [B]Josh Cribbs[/B] was an undrafted free agent and [B]Leon Washington[/B] was a 4th rounder, further evidence that even today, [B]great[/B] return specialists can slip through the cracks.[/quote]Ok, wihle I agree with you that talent is still available in later rounds, none of those names are Hester-like, which was the question.

Jackson is the closest thing to Hester so far. I heard people say that Chris Johnson, RB out of ECU, is really fast as well. But if you have watched college football and want an electrifying and game-changing returner like Hester, Jackson is the one too look at.

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Is desean Jackson worth a first round pick if he is only going to be a return specialist?

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X Carter - LSU - WR...

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[quote=jamf;424060]Is desean Jackson worth a first round pick if he is only going to be a return specialist?[/quote]If we're going to pick a WR in the 1st round, I want it to be a guy with more size than Jackson.

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Desean Jackson and Jonathan Stewart are both pretty good but I don't think they're a Devin Hester plus they're both 1st round prospects and we should use our first round elsewhere.

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short answer is not really.

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[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;424062]X Carter - LSU - WR...[/QUOTE]

HE stopped playing football a while ago, and now he solely focuses on track.

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does Jackson play another position? or is he like Hester, a return man only

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[quote=dmek25;424210]does Jackson play another position? or is he like Hester, a return man only[/quote]

He's a WR. He's been rated the #1 wr prospect on some lists, but I think others have gained on him a lot.

I advocated looking at him if he's available at #21, but the more I hear the more he sounds like D. Howard. The big red flag is that he supposedly weighs 160 lbs. for that reason I don't see Zorn et al wanting to draft him.

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What is it with all the good returners having names start with D? Devin Hester, Desean Jackson, Deion Sanders, Desmond Howard, Darrell Green, Dante Hall... weird I mean the top three ... DH DH DH Devin Hester, Dante Hall, Desmond Howard... Strange much?

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HE's not Hester, but Eddie Royal of Va. Tech might be the next ARE. He's a good punt returner & slot reciever. Projected no higher than the 3rd round at this point.

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Hester is the best return man ever. There are no Hester's in thsi draft or in any other draft for that matter. I think trying to find one would be a bad idea. You still need to find someone who contribute somewhere else first then returns second.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;424278]HE's not Hester, but Eddie Royal of Va. Tech might be the next ARE. He's a good punt returner & slot reciever. Projected no higher than the 3rd round at this point.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I would pay close attention to Royal if he makes it to the 5th round

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Chris Johnson im tellin you... ive had the opportunity to watch this guy the past couple years...definately similar speed to hester, and a much better all around offensive player (catching, blocking, ect). If this kid went to the likes of the U he would be a sure 1st rounder. the kid had one of the highest, if not the highest, average of all purpose yards per game, just watch the highlights from the boise st/ecu bowl game and tell me he doesnt have the ability to break loose every time he touches the ball

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Marcus Mason. Replacement/ grooming RB for the future.

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DeSean Jackson from Cal is gonna be discustingly nasty!!!!!

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Hey I'm seen Leodis Mckelvin live in color dude is the real deal he can return kick he reminds me of Ed Reed without the punishing hits.

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Jayson Foster!! Won the 1-aa Payton award @ Georgia southern. hes alot like Johnson (who is also a beast) runs in the 4.2's he is smaller 5'7" 170lbs but (no link) reprtedly is crazy strong for someone his size (350 bench 550 squat) was used often as a option QB so he can take a hit from a big guy... but he is super elusive and has great anticipation i would use a later 3rd on the guy but since we have more pressing needs and no 4th he would be a STEAL in 5-6

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOfVreEXJM4"]YouTube - Jayson Foster 4 Payton[/URL]
Ive wanted to start a thread on him since not alot of people know about him, but decided that it would come up sooner or later!

Chris Johnson: [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=XhUhLtAC_Ok"]YouTube - ECU's Chris Johnson Highlights: This is what 4.2 looks like[/URL]

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[QUOTE=skinsWill;434036]Jayson Foster!! Won the 1-aa Payton award @ Georgia southern. hes alot like Johnson (who is also a beast) runs in the 4.2's he is smaller 5'7" 170lbs but (no link) reprtedly is crazy strong for someone his size (350 bench 550 squat) was used often as a option QB so he can take a hit from a big guy... but he is super elusive and has great anticipation i would use a later 3rd on the guy but since we have more pressing needs and no 4th he would be a STEAL in 5-6

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOfVreEXJM4"]YouTube - Jayson Foster 4 Payton[/URL]
Ive wanted to start a thread on him since not alot of people know about him, but decided that it would come up sooner or later!

Chris Johnson: [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=XhUhLtAC_Ok"]YouTube - ECU's Chris Johnson Highlights: This is what 4.2 looks like[/URL][/QUOTE]

Jayson Foster is a converted QB to WR, if he wants to be in the league he's gonna have to get really good at kick returning, so some team picks him up, I think that Chris Johnson could be like Laurance Maroney, start at running back and return kicks, he's got a bright future.

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[quote=freddyg12;424278]HE's not Hester, but Eddie Royal of Va. Tech might be the next ARE. He's a good punt returner & slot reciever. Projected no higher than the 3rd round at this point.[/quote]

You stole my answer, good job. I agree with you though, he may not be quite as fast as Devin, but he is one hell of a return man.

Edit- He was also one of the most if not "The most" impressive and sound recievers at the combine.

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Bad thing about Jackson is that we don't need another sub 5-10" WR.

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The title of this thread is ridiculous, there has been one Hester in all of the drafts ever.

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[quote=angryssg;434102]You stole my answer, good job. I agree with you though, he may not be quite as fast as Devin, but he is one hell of a return man.

Edit- He was also one of the most if not "The most" impressive and sound recievers at the combine.[/quote]

thanks. I was quite surprised at the combine that Royal ran a 4.39. I never thought he was that fast cause he doesn't get much separation from dbs usually. Then again, Glennon was always late w/his throws. Royal's combine workout may have inflated his draft stock a bit, but he's smart + well respected & liked. A good character guy no doubt.

the more I think about it the more I'd love to see Royal w/the Skins. I know he's only 5'10, but I could see him filling in for moss on the outside or ARE in the slot & returning punts/playing coverage on spec. teams. I'd also love to see one of our other hokie wideouts here, Morgan or Harper. They're both big late round guys & might be worth a look if they really want to boost the competition for those last wr spots.

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Well since no one else is taking the smart-ass answer, I present to you, the Hester of the 2008 NFL Draft:

[url=http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/fb/jacobhester.html]Jacob Hester Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect[/url]

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[quote=freddyg12;434236]thanks. I was quite surprised at the combine that Royal ran a 4.39. I never thought he was that fast cause he doesn't get much separation from dbs usually. Then again, Glennon was always late w/his throws. Royal's combine workout may have inflated his draft stock a bit, but he's smart + well respected & liked. A good character guy no doubt.

the more I think about it the more I'd love to see Royal w/the Skins. I know he's only 5'10, but I could see him filling in for moss on the outside or ARE in the slot & returning punts/playing coverage on spec. teams. I'd also love to see one of our other hokie wideouts here, Morgan or Harper. They're both big late round guys & might be worth a look if they really want to boost the competition for those last wr spots.[/quote]

As much of a Hokie fan that I am, I cannot see us picking up Royal because he is too high of a pick for too short of a reciever. We already have the short burners on the roster and Gibbs is no longer with us. The present coaching staff is looking for those prototypical WR's that are 6'2" or taller. I like Morgan or Harper in the 6th and 7th rounds or even undrafted to come to the Skins, but that is because I am partial. I am also partial to Paul Hubbard, but that is a different story. I would really love to us get Royal, but in reality he isn't (in my mind) even on our staffs radar. It is a shame because I can see him helping a team to win many football games.

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McKelvin has huge potential as a return man, as does DeSean Jackson. Kevin Robinson was insane at Utah State as a return man but does not have great NFL measurables.