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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 08:26 PM

JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
JLC is [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]reporting[/URL] that league insiders expect the Redskins to pursue Chargers CB Drayton Florence. My guess is that, if we go after Florence (who will likely assume nickel and dime duties), we will draft a D-lineman in the 1st round.

JLC is also reporting that the Redskins are targeting Seahawks WR D.J. Hackett. If we pursue Hackett, it's unlikely that the Redskins will use a 1st rounder on a wideout, unless they plan to demote ARE or Hackett to 4th WR spot.

JLC is also speculating that the Redskins may be unable to afford to sign Bears LB Lance Briggs, with cap-rich teams like the 49ers going after him. So, the people that hate to see the Redskins go after high-priced free agents may get their wish as we are unlikely to pursue marquee free agents like Briggs.

Dirtbag59 02-21-2008 08:35 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence, Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424857]JLC is [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]reporting[/URL] that league insiders expect the Redskins to pursue Chargers CB Drayton Florence. My guess is that, if we go after Florence (who will likely assume nickel and dime duties), we will draft a D-lineman in the 1st round.

JLC is also speculating that the Redskins may be unable to afford to sign Bears LB Lance Briggs, with cap-rich teams like the 49ers going after him. So, the people that hate to see the Redskins go after high-priced free agents may get their wish as we are unlikely to pursue marquee free agents like Briggs.[/quote]

Thats bad for Briggs. A few guys around the league have suggested that Briggs needs to stay in a 4-3 system and that he might struggle in 3-4. I like the Drayton Florance idea. Seems like a great nickle back and a solid plug to start if 2 out of our 3 main guys can't go. Scouts.com has him rated 4 stars so thats good.

As I said before the salary cap crunch is helping the Redskins become wise spenders. last years FA class was a lot better then the fab 4 class from the year before. And with this years class looking more and more like Florance and Hacket then that trend looks like its going to continue. Also the cap crunch will force us to focus on the draft which should help us out over the long haul.

SmootSmack 02-21-2008 08:53 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE]Chicago and San Francisco discussed a trade in October that would have sent Briggs, a Northern California native, to the 49ers. However, the Bears’ grievance claims that San Francisco held contract talks with agent Drew Rosenhaus during the season, thus interfering with a player under contract.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-49ersinvestigated022108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]49ers investigated for tampering with Briggs - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

No secret that the 49ers are probably our biggest competitor for Briggs. If they're found guilty they'd be fined and/or possibly lose a pick. But what if part of the punishment is preventing the Niners from signing Briggs?

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 02-21-2008 09:03 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
Hackett would be a very good pickup in our west coast offense. He will not cost us a draft pick and not a huge signing bonus. Zorn already knows what Hackett can bring when healthy. This will allow to use the first 2 picks on d lineman. Later on in the draft we can focus on our old o-line. We can use the free agency to tie up so lose ends. Go Zorn!!!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 09:05 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424863][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-49ersinvestigated022108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]49ers investigated for tampering with Briggs - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

No secret that the 49ers are probably our biggest competitor for Briggs. If they're found guilty they'd be fined and/or possibly lose a pick. But what if part of the punishment is preventing the Niners from signing Briggs?[/QUOTE]

Wow, I didn't realize they're under investigation. Thanks for the link.

Do you think the league would preclude the 49ers from signing Briggs? Wouldn't that punish both the 49ers AND Briggs?

SmootSmack 02-21-2008 09:05 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424857]JLC is [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]reporting[/URL] that league insiders expect the Redskins to pursue Chargers CB Drayton Florence. My guess is that, if we go after Florence (who will likely assume nickel and dime duties), we will draft a D-lineman in the 1st round.

JLC is also reporting that the Redskins are targeting Seahawks WR D.J. Hackett. If we pursue Hackett, it's unlikely that the Redskins will use a 1st rounder on a wideout, unless they plan to demote ARE or Hackett to 4th WR spot.

JLC is also speculating that the Redskins may be unable to afford to sign Bears LB Lance Briggs, with cap-rich teams like the 49ers going after him. So, the people that hate to see the Redskins go after high-priced free agents may get their wish as we are unlikely to pursue marquee free agents like Briggs.[/QUOTE]

We should probably be careful how we word things here. JLC isn't necessarily reporting that the Redskins are targeting Hackett, just that he could be an option. It's not to say he isn't being targeted, just that the Redskins themselves aren't saying that (at least not in that report by JLC)

SmootSmack 02-21-2008 09:09 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424866]Wow, I didn't realize they're under investigation. Thanks for the link.

Do you think the league would preclude the 49ers from signing Briggs? Wouldn't that punish both the 49ers AND Briggs?[/QUOTE]

Under Tagliabue, no there's no way they would have precluded the 49ers from signing Briggs. Under Goodell, it's a bit more plausible. Ultimately though, I think if Briggs wants to be a Niner and the Niners want him Goodell won't get in the way.

I doubt much will come of all this quite honestly. No one really wants to open up the can of "tampering" worms.

Slingin Sammy 33 02-21-2008 09:10 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
Florence & Hackett at reasonable contracts sound great. If Briggs is looking for $7M / yr. w/ $20M guaranteed, I say pass and we'll find help elsewhere (Calvin Pace, Brandon Chillar, K. Mitchell) or in the draft

Tha Posse 02-21-2008 09:15 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
Little info on Florence:
On Sunday, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_14"][COLOR=#0066cc]January 14[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007"][COLOR=#0066cc]2007[/COLOR][/URL] in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_playoffs%2C_2006-07#AFC:_New_England_Patriots_24.2C_San_Diego_Chargers_21"][COLOR=#0066cc]AFC Divisional Playoff[/COLOR][/URL] game against the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots"][COLOR=#0066cc]New England Patriots[/COLOR][/URL] after a muffed punt by wide receiver [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Parker_%28American_football%29"][COLOR=#0066cc]Eric Parker[/COLOR][/URL] at the San Diego 31 yard line, Florence committed a personal foul, head-butting Patriot [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_end"][COLOR=#0066cc]TE[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Graham"][COLOR=#0066cc]Daniel Graham[/COLOR][/URL] following a 3rd and long play.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drayton_Florence#_note-2"][COLOR=#0066cc][3][/COLOR][/URL] During the play, the Charger defense had stopped the Patriots for a 7 yard loss putting the ball at the Charger 37 yard line (apx. 53 yard field goal range). The result of the penalty was a Patriots first down on the Charger 18. The extension of the drive led to a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gostkowski"][COLOR=#0066cc]Stephen Gostkowski[/COLOR][/URL] 34 yard [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_goal_%28football%29"][COLOR=#0066cc]field goal[/COLOR][/URL]. The Patriots went on to win the game 24-21.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drayton_Florence#_note-3"][COLOR=#0066cc][4][/COLOR][/URL]
The NFL fined San Diego Chargers cornerback Drayton Florence $15,000 for the illegal hit he put on [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans"][COLOR=#0066cc]Houston Texans[/COLOR][/URL] Quarterback [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Schaub"][COLOR=#0066cc]Matt Schaub[/COLOR][/URL] on Sunday October 28th. On an interception return, Florence drilled Schaub from the blind side, and he was penalized 15 yards for unnecessary roughness. The league ruled that on a change of possession, Florence unnecessarily made helmet-to-helmet contact with Schaub, who suffered a concussion and missed the rest of the game.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 09:17 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
With a [U]linebacker[/U] like Briggs asking for $7M per year and $20M guaranteed and CB Asante Samuel seeking $10M per year and $20M guaranteed, our 2006 free agent acquisitions don't look bad at all. I wonder what a defensive-end with double-digit sack totals like Andre Carter would cost in today's market?

Skins4Life101 02-21-2008 09:19 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
If we dont pick up a big name FA WR, and settle for Hackett, we are DEFINATELY going to go for a big time WR in the 2nd and possibly again in the later rounds.

We need WR Depth just a smidgen less than OLine help.

Slingin Sammy 33 02-21-2008 09:31 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Skins4Life101;424878]If we dont pick up a big name FA WR, and settle for Hackett, we are DEFINATELY going to go for a big time WR in the 2nd and possibly again in the later rounds.

We need WR Depth just a smidgen less than OLine help.[/quote]
If we get Hackett, I don't think we will go after a WR until the 5th or later rounds. We will have Moss, ARE, Hackett, Mix and either (Caldwell, McMullen, Espy, Harris or Mann), not a bad WR corps with Hackett and hopefully a developing Mix (6'5" 230+, huge target and threat in the red zone).

Our needs at DL, CB, OL & LB outweigh our need at WR.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 09:32 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;424878]If we dont pick up a big name FA WR, and settle for Hackett, we are DEFINATELY going to go for a big time WR in the 2nd and possibly again in the later rounds.[/QUOTE]

That would give us Moss, ARE, Hackett, and a 2nd rounder on top of Mix, Lloyd, Thrash, etc. I would think that would be overkill, don't you?

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-21-2008 09:34 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
The florence thing is good pickup, and I can get on board of the Hackett pickup

Slingin Sammy 33 02-21-2008 09:39 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Tha Posse;424875]Little info on Florence:
On Sunday, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_14"][COLOR=#0066cc]January 14[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007"][COLOR=#0066cc]2007[/COLOR][/URL] in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_playoffs%2C_2006-07#AFC:_New_England_Patriots_24.2C_San_Diego_Chargers_21"][COLOR=#0066cc]AFC Divisional Playoff[/COLOR][/URL] game against the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots"][COLOR=#0066cc]New England Patriots[/COLOR][/URL] after a muffed punt by wide receiver [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Parker_%28American_football%29"][COLOR=#0066cc]Eric Parker[/COLOR][/URL] at the San Diego 31 yard line, Florence committed a personal foul, head-butting Patriot [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_end"][COLOR=#0066cc]TE[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Graham"][COLOR=#0066cc]Daniel Graham[/COLOR][/URL] following a 3rd and long play.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drayton_Florence#_note-2"][COLOR=#0066cc][3][/COLOR][/URL] During the play, the Charger defense had stopped the Patriots for a 7 yard loss putting the ball at the Charger 37 yard line (apx. 53 yard field goal range). The result of the penalty was a Patriots first down on the Charger 18. The extension of the drive led to a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gostkowski"][COLOR=#0066cc]Stephen Gostkowski[/COLOR][/URL] 34 yard [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_goal_%28football%29"][COLOR=#0066cc]field goal[/COLOR][/URL]. The Patriots went on to win the game 24-21.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drayton_Florence#_note-3"][COLOR=#0066cc][4][/COLOR][/URL]
The NFL fined San Diego Chargers cornerback Drayton Florence $15,000 for the illegal hit he put on [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans"][COLOR=#0066cc]Houston Texans[/COLOR][/URL] Quarterback [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Schaub"][COLOR=#0066cc]Matt Schaub[/COLOR][/URL] on Sunday October 28th. On an interception return, Florence drilled Schaub from the blind side, and he was penalized 15 yards for unnecessary roughness. The league ruled that on a change of possession, Florence unnecessarily made helmet-to-helmet contact with Schaub, who suffered a concussion and missed the rest of the game.[/quote]
Character is always a concern, but he has good size 6', 200lbs, ran a sub 4.4 in the combine and scored a 22 on the Wonderlic (higher than average for a CB). Outside of the playoff FUBAR, I haven't heard of him being a problem even after being demoted by the play of Cromartie.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-21-2008 09:44 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
I think that lloyd and thrash and maybe espy will be cut so it is not out the realm of possibility that we could go after a devin thomas or a adrius bowman in the 2nd round

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 09:59 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;424892]I think that lloyd and thrash and maybe espy will be cut so it is not out the realm of possibility that we could go after a devin thomas or a adrius bowman in the 2nd round[/QUOTE]

If Moss is our #1, Hackett is our #2, ARE is our #3, and we go after Thomas or Bowman for our #4, we'd likely end up cutting Lloyd, Thrash, and Mix. I'm not sure a #4 WR is worth an early first day pick, particularly when we have needs at DT, DE, CB, SS, and all along our 30+ y.o. o-line.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-21-2008 10:03 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424895]If Moss is our #1, Hackett is our #2, ARE is our #3, and we go after Thomas or Bowman for our #4, we'd likely end up cutting Lloyd, Thrash, and Mix. I'm not sure a #4 WR is worth an early first day pick, particularly when we have needs at DT, DE, CB, SS, and all along our 30+ y.o. o-line.[/quote]


I know it is unlikely I am just saying it is still possible

skinsfan69 02-21-2008 10:17 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424857]JLC is [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]reporting[/URL] that league insiders expect the Redskins to pursue Chargers CB Drayton Florence. My guess is that, if we go after Florence (who will likely assume nickel and dime duties), we will draft a D-lineman in the 1st round.

JLC is also reporting that the Redskins are targeting Seahawks WR D.J. Hackett. If we pursue Hackett, it's unlikely that the Redskins will use a 1st rounder on a wideout, unless they plan to demote ARE or Hackett to 4th WR spot.

JLC is also speculating that the Redskins may be unable to afford to sign Bears LB Lance Briggs, with cap-rich teams like the 49ers going after him. So, the people that hate to see the Redskins go after high-priced free agents may get their wish as we are unlikely to pursue marquee free agents like Briggs.[/quote]

We can't afford Briggs and we don't need him. I like the possible Hackett signing. Also if Florence is signed does that mean the end for Springs?

Skins4Life101 02-21-2008 10:18 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
I am not convinced Hackett is the answer that we need. Unless there is a growing emphatuation with Mix, or they are going to seek a big body in the later rounds (Marcus Monk in the 4th?) I would be VERY uncomfortable with this pickup. He reminds me of Brandon Lloyd for some reason.

Speaking of Lloyd, is he done and out of our plans for next year?

jsarno 02-21-2008 10:23 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;424898]I am not convinced Hackett is the answer that we need. Unless there is a growing emphatuation with Mix, or they are going to seek a big body in the later rounds (Marcus Monk in the 4th?) I would be VERY uncomfortable with this pickup. He reminds me of Brandon Lloyd for some reason.

Speaking of Lloyd, is he done and out of our plans for next year?[/QUOTE]

We don't have a 4th rounder.

Lloyd would cost us 2.9mil to cut, whether we like it or not, he may still be in a skins uni come next season.
It won't cost us a penny to cut him in 09 though.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 10:25 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;424897]We can't afford Briggs and we don't need him. I like the possible Hackett signing. Also if Florence is signed does that mean the end for Springs?[/QUOTE]

We are supposedly retaining Springs for the 2008 campaign. It makes sense, even if we sign Florence. Springs is the #1 CB, but he's been injury prone. Smoot is a good #2 or nickel. Rogers is coming off a pretty devastating knee injury and likely will not be 100% for a year, even if he hits the field in September. We don't have any quality depth. Florence would be a good nickel while Rogers is recovering and could resume that role once Spring presumably leaves the team in 2009.

Skinny Tee 02-21-2008 10:27 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424857]JLC is [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]reporting[/URL] that league insiders expect the Redskins to pursue Chargers CB Drayton Florence. My guess is that, if we go after Florence (who will likely assume nickel and dime duties), we will draft a D-lineman in the 1st round.

JLC is also reporting that the Redskins are targeting Seahawks WR D.J. Hackett. If we pursue Hackett, it's unlikely that the Redskins will use a 1st rounder on a wideout, unless they plan to demote ARE or Hackett to 4th WR spot.

JLC is also speculating that the Redskins may be unable to afford to sign Bears LB Lance Briggs, with cap-rich teams like the 49ers going after him. So, the people that hate to see the Redskins go after high-priced free agents may get their wish as we are unlikely to pursue marquee free agents like Briggs.[/quote]

I like all these moves. They are very subtle and there are no huge volatile additions like there were in offseasons before. Granted we're cash strapped but maybe that bodes well for the stability for this upcoming offseason.

Hopefully we do well this season and the FO recognizes that the major additions in the offseason aren't always neccesary.

jsarno 02-21-2008 10:27 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;424897]We can't afford Briggs and we don't need him. I like the possible Hackett signing. Also if Florence is signed does that mean the end for Springs?[/QUOTE]

Cutting Springs would save us 2.5 mil, so it's possible we won't see him again...however, due to our thin secondary, even if we sign Florence, I think we need to keep Springs.
We can't afford / shouldn't afford Briggs, but why do you think we don't need him?

I'm OK with Hackett, but it doesn't really fix our issues of needing a big possession receiver.

mooby 02-21-2008 10:29 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
I like the idea of signing Florence, he would be a good nickel or dime corner. And signing Hackett is another good idea imo because he's already got experience with Zorn and he probably won't be that expensive either. I'm actually glad to hear we might not have the cap space to pursue Briggs, I don't want to see him here.

jsarno 02-21-2008 10:29 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424902]We are supposedly retaining Springs for the 2008 campaign. It makes sense, even if we sign Florence. Springs is the #1 CB, but he's been injury prone. Smoot is a good #2 or nickel. Rogers is coming off a pretty devastating knee injury and likely will not be 100% for a year, even if he hits the field in September. We don't have any quality depth. Florence would be a good nickel while Rogers is recovering and could resume that role once Spring presumably leaves the team in 2009.[/QUOTE]

I agree, plus Springs will save us 6 mil on the cap figures if he leaves after the 08 season. That seems the more likely scenario.

steveo395 02-21-2008 10:30 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
I would definitely be happy with Hackett and Florence. We should be able to get both of them at reasonable prices and it will allow us to focus on both of the lines in the draft.

SmootSmack 02-21-2008 10:30 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
I don't know much about Florence. But, man our luck has got to change at some point with the free agent nickelbacks we sign, doesn't it? (Harris, Wright, Macklin)

WillH 02-21-2008 10:31 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=jsarno;424901]We don't have a 4th rounder.

Lloyd would cost us 2.9mil to cut, whether we like it or not, he may still be in a skins uni come next season.
It won't cost us a penny to cut him in 09 though.[/quote]

Actually we dont have OUR 4th round pick, but I think we picked one up from a trade.

SmootSmack 02-21-2008 10:32 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=WillH;424909]Actually we dont have OUR 4th round pick, but I think we picked one up from a trade.[/QUOTE]

Which trade?

steveo395 02-21-2008 10:33 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;424908]I don't know much about Florence. But, man our luck has got to change at some point with the free agent nickelbacks we sign, doesn't it? (Harris, Wright, Macklin)[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing. These cornerbacks were all starters on other teams and played well. Then, when they came here they were crap. Well Harris wasn't that bad, but Wright and Macklin were worthless.

WillH 02-21-2008 10:34 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
Not sure ducket maybe. I swear I read in the post that with a 4th round pick from the _______ the reddkins have a full set of draft picks. Ill have to try and find it.

jsarno 02-21-2008 10:37 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424908]I don't know much about Florence. But, man our luck has got to change at some point with the free agent nickelbacks we sign, doesn't it? (Harris, Wright, Macklin)[/QUOTE]

It's not like any of those guys were really good before we got them, they were just servicable. We go after average players and expect big things from them. It's not going to happen.

Dirtbag59 02-21-2008 10:39 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=steveo395;424911]I was thinking the same thing. These cornerbacks were all starters on other teams and played well. Then, when they came here they were crap. Well Harris wasn't that bad, but Wright and Macklin were worthless.[/quote]

Not that bad? Walt Harris went to the Pro Bowl the year after we released him.

jsarno 02-21-2008 10:39 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=WillH;424912]Not sure ducket maybe. I swear I read in the post that with a 4th round pick from the _______ the reddkins have a full set of draft picks. Ill have to try and find it.[/QUOTE]

I have seen those posts too...then they are corrected.

WillH 02-21-2008 10:44 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
Yeah, I have been one correcting people about it, but I remember reading this somewhere reputable recently. Maybe I dreamt it, but when I read it it seemed plausible like oh yeah I forgot about that. Anyways, wasn't there some stipulation with Ducket that if he got a certain amount of playing time we got a 3rd rounder this year or if not we got a fourth. I remember something to that effect which made what I read plausible. Well, I cant find what I read so oh well . . .

SmootSmack 02-21-2008 10:45 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;424913]It's not like any of those guys were really good before we got them, they were just servicable. We go after average players and expect big things from them. It's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]

These were all veteran starters who were just asked to be nickel or dime defensive backs. We weren't looking for the next Shawn Springs

steveo395 02-21-2008 10:45 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;424914]Not that bad? Walt Harris went to the Pro Bowl the year after we released him.[/quote]
I meant he wasn't that bad when he was on the Redskins.

steveo395 02-21-2008 10:46 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
[quote=WillH;424917]Yeah, I have been one correcting people about it, but I remember reading this somewhere reputable recently. Maybe I dreamt it, but when I read it it seemed plausible like oh yeah I forgot about that. Anyways, wasn't there some stipulation with Ducket that if he got a certain amount of playing time we got a 3rd rounder this year or if not we got a fourth. I remember something to that effect which made what I read plausible. Well, I cant find what I read so oh well . . .[/quote]
I think we lost our fouth rounder in the Duckett trade, we didn't get one back.

WillH 02-21-2008 10:50 PM

Re: JLC: Skins to Pursue CB Florence & WR Hackett; Can't Afford Briggs?
 
Yeah I guess we just didnt resign him, god I wish I could remember what that was about.

Oh wait, maybe it had to do with not being able to resign derrick dockery?


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