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Very sad situation, but it had to happen.
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Link? Com'on man you're not new.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now someones going to sign him for the Veteran Minimum.

Either that or in the neighborhood of a million dollar per year contract with incentives. Then again thats just a gut feeling. Now we have an opening at team rapper. This blows.

Whats the cap hit on this guy?

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Maybe we could sign him for vets. Min. OK he is hardly worth that. Too bad he do anything. He had potiential.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;426313]Link? Com'on man you're not new.[/QUOTE]

I thought maybe LaVar told him

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Does anybody know if this was designated a post-June 1 cut or not?

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Man, I wished it could have worked. I believe in this west coast offense he would have been productive. What wasted draft picks and talent. This is one of the biggest bust the organization has done. Good luck on your team, LLoyd!! Bring on Chad!!

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[QUOTE=steveo395;426319]Does anybody know if this was designated a post-June 1 cut or not?[/QUOTE]

I believe it has to be to make much sense to do it now.

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[quote=SmootSmack;426317]I thought maybe LaVar told him[/quote]
Yeah, he did yesterday.

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[QUOTE=steveo395;426319]Does anybody know if this was designated a post-June 1 cut or not?[/QUOTE]

I would think so unless they can use Sean Taylor

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Yeah this certainly was a colossal failure. Of course now we're going to talk about him more than we ever have

<<If only we had Ramsey throwing to Lloyd...>>

Somehwere Rexi is laughing..that bastard

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Man, what's up w/the Skins' timing? Don't they know we just got going on another Loyd thread & we were waiting to hear about Zorn talking to him? :)

Going into the offseason I bet if there was a poll here, Loyd's release would've been Inevitability #1.

Good riddance, I don't wish anyone bad luck but a part of me hopes Loyd sucks wherever he goes. really feel like he just screwed our team. One of the worst free agent signings ever in the history of unrestricted free agency IMO.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;426327]Man, what's up w/the Skins' timing? Don't they know we just got going on another Loyd thread & we were waiting to hear about Zorn talking to him? :)

Going into the offseason I bet if there was a poll here, Loyd's release would've been Inevitability #1.

Good riddance, I don't wish anyone bad luck but a part of me hopes Loyd sucks wherever he goes. really feel like he just screwed our team. One of the worst free agent signings ever in the history of unrestricted free agency IMO.[/QUOTE]

It'd be an easier pill to swallow if it was an unrestricted free agency move...but it wasn't. It was a trade, a bad trade. The only solace we can take, I suppose, is that the Niners wasted the picks.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426325]Yeah this certainly was a colossal failure. Of course now we're going to talk about him more than we ever have

<<If only we had Ramsey throwing to Lloyd...>>

Somehwere Rexi is laughing..that bastard[/QUOTE]


Mike Wise was just on Comcast SportsNet talking about the Redskins release of Brandon Lloyd.

He joked about how one day last Summer, Lloyd walked up to Clinton Portis in the locker room and said "I went fishing the other day and caught a fish that looked just like you" Clinton just shook his head, and walked away. Any wonder why this guy is no longer a Redskin?

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[quote=FRPLG;426322]I believe it has to be to make much sense to do it now.[/quote]I don't think it can be. If we designate him post 6/1, we still have to pay his 1.8 mil roster bonus, because its due before 6/1.

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Who did SF take with those picks? Either way w/e, as the saying goes, cut our losses and move on. I'm pretty sure he'll go somewhere else and become a successfull young rapper, it sounds like he's committed to what he loves.

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OCHOCINCO, Williams, Berrian, Johnson(Bryant), I like all of them more than Lloyd. Its nice we freed some money up too.

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[quote=Campbell17;426335]OCHOCINCO, Williams, Berrian, Johnson(Bryant), I like all of them more than Lloyd. Its nice we freed some money up too.[/quote]
It cost us 2.9 million against the cap, to release him.

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[quote=mooby;426332]Who did SF take with those picks? Either way w/e, as the saying goes, cut our losses and move on. I'm pretty sure he'll go somewhere else and become a successfull young rapper, it sounds like he's committed to what he loves.[/quote]

Late 3rd round 2006 - Brandon Williams from Wisconisn who still hasn't caught a pass in the NFL. They then took Jay Moore from Nebraska who wne ton IR last year.

However the thing is our front office does a great job of picking players in the draft, especially in the later rounds. In my opinion those two picks could have produced a starter and a role player.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;426339]Late 3rd round 2006 - Brandon Williams from Wisconisn who still hasn't caught a pass in the NFL. They then took Jay Moore from Nebraska who wne ton IR last year.

However the thing is our front office does a great job of picking players in the draft, especially in the later rounds. In my opinion those two picks could have produced a starter and a role player.[/quote]
Between Lloyd, Archuletta and Ducket, we probably lost a chance at a SuperBowl, last year. With the cap space it cost us and a total of two 3rd and two 4th round picks. I also agree with you, our front office does great with draft choices.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;426330]I don't think it can be. If we designate him post 6/1, we still have to pay his 1.8 mil roster bonus, because its due before 6/1.[/QUOTE]

Good point.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;426341]Between Lloyd, Archuletta and Ducket, we probably lost a chance at a SuperBowl, last year. With the cap space it cost us and a total of two 3rd and two 4th round picks. I also agree with you, our front office does great with draft choices.[/QUOTE]

Wow...that is a rosey view on last year. I think we were further away from the SB than that.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;426341]Between Lloyd, Archuletta and Ducket, we probably lost a chance at a SuperBowl, last year.[/quote]Pretty much. Though I would argue if we had drafted depth at key positions instead of signing those fools, we would have been SB bound in 2006.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;426338]It cost us 2.9 million against the cap, to release him.[/quote]
O than maybe i was wrong...

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;426339]Late 3rd round 2006 - Brandon Williams from Wisconisn who still hasn't caught a pass in the NFL. They then took Jay Moore from Nebraska who wne ton IR last year.

However the thing is our front office does a great job of picking players in the draft, especially in the later rounds. In my opinion those two picks could have produced a starter and a role player.[/QUOTE]

They also used the money they would have spent to re-sign Lloyd on Antonio Bryant. Brandon Lloyd had more receptions than Bryant in 2007

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;426329]Mike Wise was just on Comcast SportsNet talking about the Redskins release of Brandon Lloyd.

He joked about how one day last Summer, Lloyd walked up to Clinton Portis in the locker room and said "I went fishing the other day and caught a fish that looked just like you" Clinton just shook his head, and walked away. Any wonder why this guy is no longer a Redskin?[/QUOTE]

Portis was the last person in that locker room basically to support him but that ended at the end of last season. Lloyd alienated too many people throughout the organization. He was just flat out rude from what I've heard and what has been reported. And if I remember right he got into a fight with either Campbell or Portis in the locker room. Some people think that they were all cheering for him when he caught that pass this year (Lions game I think), but really they were apparently mock cheering.

What upset most of the players/coaches beyond the way he treated people at Redskins Park and his inability to really learn his role in the offense is the fact that they all agree he could have easily been their best receiver, instead he just wasted his talent.

Now I know there's a "we didn't give him a chance, we never threw him the ball" sentiment but the reality is that Lloyd has to shoulder a lot of the blame. And if people keep trying to make excuses for him (like they do for Ramsey, like they did for LaVar) then he'll fail wherever he goes.

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[quote=FRPLG;426344]Wow...that is a rosey view on last year. I think we were further away from the SB than that.[/quote]Last year, yeah. Back in 2006 though, we had Clinton Portis in the prime of his career, a quarterback who was having a better statistical year than the prior year, and if the picks had been used on defensive depth, we probably wouldn't have stunk so bad on defense that year after a few injuries.

There's no reason to think we couldn't have improved on 2005 without those stupid signings. Because we failed, we started over at midseason, and 2007 became somewhat of a rebuilding year--instead of the decline year it would have been if we had been great in 2006. I mean, if we went to the NFC championship after winning the division in 2006, then an injury riddled year in which we won 9 games and got beat in the first round would have been considered a failure, but considering just how worse off those signings made us, I think we were all happy to see the team get back on track for 2007.

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[quote=SmootSmack;426348]They also used the money they would have spent to re-sign Lloyd on Antonio Bryant. Brandon Lloyd had more receptions than Bryant in 2007[/quote]


The 49er's :shakes head: They've drafted a lot of good players, but when you have sub-par play at the QB and WR position you can't really do much. I'm personally hoping that Shaun Hill does well there, but then again Alex Smith is a good guy and I'm sad to see him struggle as much as he has.

Unfortunatly Smith is becoming the poster child for the "you don't need to draft a QB just because you have a top 5 pick" sentiment" In my opinion he should have droped to the later part of the first round and been given a chance to learn.

So what have we learned today kids? Everyone involved in the Brandon Lloyd trade got screwed.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;426356]The 49er's :shakes head: They've drafted a lot of good players, but when you have sub-par play at the QB and WR position you can't really do much. I'm personally hoping that Shaun Hill does well there, but then again Alex Smith is a good guy and I'm sad to see him struggle as much as he has.

Unfortunatly Smith is becoming the poster child for the "you don't need to draft a QB just because you have a top 5 pick" sentiment" In my opinion he should have droped to the later part of the first round and been given a chance to learn.

So what have we learned today kid? Everyone involved in the Brandon Lloiyd trade got screwed.[/quote]Smith could have really used another year in college. He's got a great football mind, and I expect him to exceed his projection, though exceeding that projection in itself really shouldn't be that hard.

Smith should get the chance to do it though. I see the Niners winning 6-8 games behind the strength of their defense this year. They had a really, really shitty year, but they aren't void of talent like they were back in 2005.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426349]Portis was the last person in that locker room basically to support him but that ended at the end of last season. Lloyd alienated too many people throughout the organization. He was just flat out rude from what I've heard and what has been reported. And if I remember right he got into a fight with either Campbell or Portis in the locker room. Some people think that they were all cheering for him when he caught that pass this year (Lions game I think), but really they were apparently mock cheering.

What upset most of the players/coaches beyond the way he treated people at Redskins Park and his inability to really learn his role in the offense is the fact that they all agree he could have easily been their best receiver, instead he just wasted his talent.

Now I know there's a "we didn't give him a chance, we never threw him the ball" sentiment but the reality is that Lloyd has to shoulder a lot of the blame. And if people keep trying to make excuses for him (like they do for Ramsey, like they did for LaVar) then he'll fail wherever he goes.[/QUOTE]



I agree Smack....And what's most dissapointing about the whole Lloyd ordeal is that the Redskins didn't see this coming. Vinny Cerrato knows the 49er organization well, and Lloyd's reputation there arived here before he did. Based on some of the things he was known for there, I was actually surprised we were willing to take a chance on a player of his reputation, notwithstanding the cost. You learn from your mistakes, and move on.

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[quote=Campbell17;426346]O than maybe i was wrong...[/quote]
Not totally, it will save us a bunch next year.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;426360]Not totally, it will save us a bunch next year.[/quote]

Now we've got even more space for Lavar! God, I think if we hurry we can even have Ramsey replace Collins! :rofl:

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[quote=SmootSmack;426328]It'd be an easier pill to swallow if it was an unrestricted free agency move...but it wasn't. It was a trade, a bad trade. The only solace we can take, I suppose, is that the Niners wasted the picks.[/quote]

right, my bad
Guess the reason I think of it as a fa signing is because his deal expired after his 1st year here, but they STILL went ahead & signed him to the long term deal.

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No worries, Lavar is going to sign for the always popular "Vet Minimum".

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What a disapointment. Glad its finally over, I can sleep peacefully now.

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Brandon Lloyd's Cap Numbers, yesterday:

2008: $ 4,238,000
2009: $ 5,333,000
2010: $ 5,833,000
2011: $ 4,833,000
2012: $ 4,833,000

Brandon Lloyd Cap, today:

2008: $ 7,167,000 ($2,900,000)-net cap hit
2009: $ 0
2010: $ 0
2011: $ 0
2012: $ 0

:D

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[quote=SmootSmack;426349]Portis was the last person in that locker room basically to support him but that ended at the end of last season. Lloyd alienated too many people throughout the organization. He was just flat out rude from what I've heard and what has been reported. And if I remember right he got into a fight with either Campbell or Portis in the locker room. Some people think that they were all cheering for him when he caught that pass this year (Lions game I think), but really they were apparently mock cheering.

What upset most of the players/coaches beyond the way he treated people at Redskins Park and his inability to really learn his role in the offense is the fact that they all agree he could have easily been their best receiver, instead he just wasted his talent.

Now I know there's a "we didn't give him a chance, we never threw him the ball" sentiment but the reality is that Lloyd has to shoulder a lot of the blame. And if people keep trying to make excuses for him (like they do for Ramsey, like they did for LaVar) then he'll fail wherever he goes.[/quote]

He got into a fight w/ JC or Portis?? This would've leaked out, don't you think? But I do agree with all of your points. He is just an ass with a real bad attitude. I was hoping he'd get it together but it's not going to happen here. I would bet his career is over. Now he can go on to making records. LOL!!!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;426371]He got into a fight w/ JC or Portis?? This would've leaked out, don't you think? But I do agree with all of your points. He is just an ass with a real bad attitude. I was hoping he'd get it together but it's not going to happen here. I would bet his career is over. Now he can go on to making records. LOL!!![/QUOTE]

I could have sworn it was, but then Gibbs quickly swept it under the rug.

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I htought I heard he did have a locker room clash with Portis.