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SmootSmack 03-02-2008 04:43 PM

JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
[QUOTE]I mentioned Lito Sheppard a few days ago as a possibility and indeed it was. Despite the fact the Eagles are in the NFC East, Philadelphia has contacted Washington several times about Sheppard in recent weeks - more or less since the combine - knowing the Redskins have a need at CB.

The Redskins rebuffed Philly, however, league sources said. They do not want to do a huge contract right now, they have concerns about Sheppard's ability to stay healthy and they are not inclined to give up high draft picks right now.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/03/lito_sheppardother_stuff.html]Lito Sheppard/Other Stuff - Redskins Insider[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-02-2008 04:59 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
good to know that we can stand our ground

TheMalcolmConnection 03-02-2008 05:18 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
Wow. Re-re-restraint?! Interesting.

I wonder if a la Walker, they release Sheppard and we can get him without giving up anything but cap space.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2008 05:24 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
If they are asking for a 2nd rounder or less (which, in our case, is a late second rounder), I'd take them up on their offer. Lito is a good (albeit overrated) corner who is signed to a very manageable contract.

Redskins8588 03-02-2008 05:24 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
Do we really want Sheppard? I mean there is a reason that the Eagles are trying to off-load him to us...

mooby 03-02-2008 05:25 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
He is definitely a good corner, but I'd rather keep our draft picks. I think the Eagles will find a suitor for him, although if he was released I wouldn't mind picking him up for a reasonable price.

SmootSmack 03-02-2008 05:31 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;428273]If they are asking for a 2nd rounder or less (which, in our case, is a late second rounder), I'd take them up on their offer. Lito is a good (albeit overrated) corner who is signed to a very manageable contract.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't give them a 2nd. We can get a pretty good DB even in the 2nd round. And I wouldn't want them to have two second-rounders.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-02-2008 05:32 PM

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[quote=Redskins8588;428275]Do we really want Sheppard? I mean there is a reason that the Eagles are trying to off-load him to us...[/quote]


they just signed Asante Samuel

Redskins8588 03-02-2008 05:33 PM

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I agree with SmootSmack, I would not want to give a 2nd round pick to a divisional rival. Esp. not the Eagles. I do not think that Sheppard is worth a 2nd round pick. Look at how many people got mad here when the Redskins gave up a 2nd round pick for Portis, and I do not think that Sheppard is anywhere near as good as Portis...

diehardskin2982 03-02-2008 05:35 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
if we are gonna use an early draft pic, use it on Dante Hall

Dirtbag59 03-02-2008 05:39 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
If we're going to take a corner in the second round then we can get grab Antione Cason or Tracy Porter. Both look like a good fit for our system. Also theres the possiblity that the Skins will draft Rogers-Cromartie, but I doubt the Redskins spend a first round pick on a DB four times in a row.

Remember
2004: Sean Taylor (RIP)
2005: Carlos Rogers
2006: No first
2007: Laron Landry
2008: [SIZE=1]Devin Thomas?[/SIZE]

SmootSmack 03-02-2008 05:39 PM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;428283]if we are gonna use an early draft pic, use it on Dante Hall[/QUOTE]

???? Am I missing something here?

Dirtbag59 03-02-2008 05:41 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;428286]???? Am I missing something here?[/quote]
Well with Lloyd gone the team needs a new distraction. :)

Lol, he obviously meant DeAngelo Hall, but if he wants to trade a 1st round pick for a #4 WR then go ahead.

jsarno 03-02-2008 06:02 PM

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Lito just isn't worth it. Sure he would be if he were a FA, but we need those picks.

People say "if they are willing to dump him, then we shouldn't listen" all the time, but they are very rarely correct. You don't have to look far to find successes. Randy Moss being a perfect example. Just cause a player is not performing at his max with a team doesn't mean a change of scenary and a change of teammates can't do wonders for people. Sometimes one man's trash is another man's treasure.

theJBexperience 03-02-2008 06:04 PM

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[quote=Redskins8588;428275]Do we really want Sheppard? I mean there is a reason that the Eagles are trying to off-load him to us...[/quote]

That is odd that they'd want to trade him within the division. There's got to be more than meets the eye here. They know how good Springs is and must not think much of Lito. I'm glad we're not making the trade.

Since they're coming to the Skins trying to trade Lito, wouldn't we have the upper hand? Why do they want high draft picks as well? Why not try to tack on some Iggles draft picks for the trade?

2BIG2BSKINNY 03-02-2008 06:29 PM

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The FO looks like they may have had a change of philosophy! I don't like that trade niether...glad to see the egos calm in the FO. This team is good and can get better slowly!!! Draft wisely!

Dirtyskin21 03-02-2008 07:04 PM

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I think this is wise, to not trade picks for injury prone players.. you only take a chance on injury prone players who are a free agent, because then you dont have any picks tied to them.

You better make sure you are getting a sure fire stud ( unlike the signings in the recent past) because i will almost guarantee trading them picks will come back to bite you in the ass.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2008 07:07 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;428279]I wouldn't give them a 2nd. We can get a pretty good DB even in the 2nd round. And I wouldn't want them to have two second-rounders.[/QUOTE]

Reasonable people with disagree. If the Eagles demanded a 2nd rounder or less, I'd pull the trigger. Lito is a 26 year old Pro Bowl corner with 4 years left under contract and his cap figures are more than reasonable, especially when you consider that top flight corners are getting about $9M per year in today's market. Granted, you might find a great, young corner towards the end of the 2nd round at an even better price. But then again, you could draft a total bust or just a serviceable backup. It would be a close call, but a late 2nd rounder IMO would be worth it.

81forHOF 03-02-2008 07:17 PM

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I wonder if a la Walker, they release Sheppard and we can get him without giving up anything but cap space.[/quote]

With the amount of money they handed Samuels I could see this as a distinct possibility.

I still wouldn't shy away from giving a 3rd for him....what's the old NFL adage? You can never have too many good corners. Springs, as much as I love him, is no spring (no pun intended) chicken. I can see a future of Lito, Fred and Carlos.

SmootSmack 03-02-2008 07:19 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;428330]Reasonable people with disagree. If the Eagles demanded a 2nd rounder or less, I'd pull the trigger. Lito is a 26 year old Pro Bowl corner with 4 years left under contract and his cap figures are more than reasonable, especially when you consider that top flight corners are getting about $9M per year in today's market. Granted, you might find a great, young corner towards the end of the 2nd round at an even better price. But then again, you could draft a total bust or just a serviceable backup. It would be a close call, but a late 2nd rounder IMO would be worth it.[/QUOTE]

I didn't understand your first sentence. Probably some lawyer mumbo jumbo :)

Tell you what I'd trade the 2nd if we get Lito and their 4th rounder (do they have a fourth rounder?)

FRPLG 03-02-2008 07:59 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
[QUOTE=Redskins8588;428275]Do we really want Sheppard? I mean there is a reason that the Eagles are trying to off-load him to us...[/QUOTE]

I have heard this arguent before but it is a fallacy. So many of us quibble with us letting guys go but when another team is getting rid of a guy then "there has to be a good reason". My guess is that he isn't happy for whatever reason and/or can't stay healthy but these are things we already know or are irrelevant. I think I'd still let them, cut him instead. If someone wants to trade for him then let it not be us giving up picks and letting them get extras.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2008 09:41 PM

Re: JLC Brings Up Lito Again
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;428337]I didn't understand your first sentence. Probably some lawyer mumbo jumbo :)[/QUOTE]

Ha. Yes, it was a technical phrase only us lawyers use. ;)


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