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Where Do We LEAST Need To Improve?
It's unlikely we'll be able to fill all our needs in the draft, and barring a trade (CJ?) or last minute free agent signing (Scott?) we're not likely to make many other moves in free agency/trades.
So with that in mind, where can we afford to go with the status quo for another year? In other words, what do we LEAST need? |
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It's pretty difficult but if I had to choose, I probably would stand pat with WRs and resign Caldwell.. I don't think we can afford to ignore CBs since this is new era for NFL - lot and lot of passing going on with those teams today.. Just like CBs we cannot ignore D-line, we need to focus on DE area and find someone who can rush.. And our O-line has shown us that they cannot be expected to play full year together, which means we need to find some depth for O-line..
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I say DT because we have a pretty good rotation and a great defensive coach and therefore the's no need for drafting a DT [B]on day one[/B] ie Sedrick Ellis or Alan Branch, I mean Glenn Dorsey even if they fall into our lap at those picks. By the way I searched for combine results for Kedric Golston (really good) and Anthony Montgomery (not too good) and was pretty surprised. Chew on this...
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=10620"]Kedric*Golston, DT, Georgia - 2006 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/URL] [URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=10256"]Anthony*Montgomery, DT, Minnesota - 2006 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/URL] |
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I'm going to go with CB. I think we have a pretty strong rotation there, and they played great down the stretch. Even if you pencil Rogers as a number three this year, I like the line-up.
Besides your CBs are, to an extent, only as good as the pressure they get up front. |
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[quote=12thMan;432585]I'm going to go with CB. I think we have a pretty strong rotation there, and they played great down the stretch. Even if you pencil Rogers as a number three this year, I like the line-up.
Besides your CBs are, to an extent, only as good as the pressure they get up front.[/quote]I agree. |
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I also agree, our CBs will look much better this year if we can get some help for Andre Carter and the Pass Rush, and to a lesser point run "stoppage"
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DT we have youth experience and depth there.
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DT I agree that we have depth there.
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For me, it's clearly OT.
Chris Samuels is one of the best in the business, easily a top 10 OT in this league. Jansen is getting older and is coming off injury, but he's played next to Randy Thomas for a long time, is still very strong, and we could do a lot worse. Plus we've got up-and-coming Stephon Heyer as a good depth guy, who Bugel seems to love. I recognize Samuels and Jansen aren't spring chickens, but I wouldn't call them old either. To me, OT isn't a need at all. In fact I think it's one of our better positions and actually stuck out to me as a position that doesn't even really belong on this list. I think LB is a much bigger need than OT, and it didn't make the list. I also agree that I'm pretty satisfied with the current group of CBs. |
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griffin is old, we need a DT.
springs could be leaving, we need a CB. we can stand at OT (samuels, jansen, heyer, possibly wade) or WR (rookie isn't going to help much in the first year in all likelyhodd anyways). OG, we need someone under 30 ;) DE - need to replace daniels, and the backups aren't great either. here's the thing though... if we stand pat this year, guess who some of the FAs are next year? julius peppers, roy williams, etc... talk about addressing needs! |
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[quote=EXoffender;432584]I say DT because we have a pretty good rotation and a great defensive coach and therefore the's no need for drafting a DT [B]on day one[/B] ie Sedrick Ellis or Alan Branch, I mean Glenn Dorsey even if they fall into our lap at those picks. By the way I searched for combine results for Kedric Golston (really good) and Anthony Montgomery (not too good) and was pretty surprised. Chew on this...
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=10620"]Kedric*Golston, DT, Georgia - 2006 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/URL] [URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=10256"]Anthony*Montgomery, DT, Minnesota - 2006 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/URL][/quote] we have the full profiles (not the free ones) on here somewhere, and they were here a week or so before the draft, cause those were the only two DTs i really looked at for day two that year ;) lemme see if i can find it.. |
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I'm going to say WR, but it could be OT pretty easily if Jansen can be relied on for a full season.
We should probably just let the WR situation go another year at this point. Maybe a mid-round guy can be our #3, but it's not necessary to solve a non-issue with a non-solution. |
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I'm gonna have to say DT, because we have three quality Dt's right now, Anthony Montgomery, Kedric Golston, and Cornelius Griffin, I know Cornelius is getting old but Kedric is just waiting to become the full time starter, and he is learning just as Anthony Montgomery did, we are set for years to come with those two.
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Well, if the question is where do we least need to "improve", then I'm going with OT. Anyone else we bring in certainly won't overtake either Samuels or Jansen.....it'd be merely a depth move (which I would support, but it isn't our biggest need).
I could see improving at WR through the draft (although perhaps we'd have to wait a year or so for the rookie to develop). I could definitely see improvements in DE (in fact, a round one DE could probably start by mid-season), and CB (if nothing else, a top rookie could be an impoved #3 CB). DT could be improved as well, but I think our needs are greater at DE and CB. OG is kind of similar to OT in that I don't see anyone new coming in and starting for us, but between the two, I'm more comfortable with our OTs than our OGs (in terms of the injury bug). |
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Concentrate on the D in the draft with new CBs, a new S, a D linemen for a change. I still say go for a WR though somewhere in the upper to mid rounds. All of our studs in the position are questionable in my opinion. Santana rocks, but gets hurt a lot and age will become a factor in a few seasons if it hasn't already with the injuries. Randle El has really nice games, then just average games, no consistency. Caldwell showed promise at times, but then he didn't get too may balls thrown to him. Get some young guns at WR or at least one, then get another in draft 09'. I would say another CB or DE in the first round.
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I'll say CB
We have Springs, Smoot and Rogers even though he's coming off of an injury and they are pretty good. Maybe if we could get 1 more guy in, preferably a young one because Springs is getting old, I think CB would be set. |
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DT. we have griff, montgomery and golston. OT we have samuels and jansen who is coming off a pretty bad injury for the 2nd season out of 3 thats why i disagree with the majority here
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Well I said WR but I have reconsidered and think OT is right. Outside of a franchise tackle we'll probably not get anyone better than Jansen and certainly not any better than Samuels so a OT is going to be a depth/long term pick. Outside of injury I don't a OT playing for us this year whereas all of the other positions have a decent/good shot at starting straight away.
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[QUOTE=Big C;432660]DT. we have griff, montgomery and golston. OT we have samuels and jansen who is coming off a pretty bad injury for the 2nd season out of 3 thats why i disagree with the majority here[/QUOTE]
there was alot of trashing going on last season about how we didnt draft a DT and you know, you are right, we really do have a solid DT corps. Its a tie between that and OT. we are getting kind of old on the O line though. We need to start looking towards the future. |
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[QUOTE=Stuck in TX;432677]there was alot of trashing going on last season about how we didnt draft a DT and you know, you are right, we really do have a solid DT corps. Its a tie between that and OT. we are getting kind of old on the O line though. We need to start looking towards the future.[/QUOTE]
We really only need 1 OT, because of Stephon Heyer, and if Lorenzo Alexander can play T maybe we should see how he plays. |
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I think we're good at tackle and guard... I said guard in the poll, thinking of kendall and thomas, but beyond them depth may be an issue moreso at guard than at tackle, when I think about Jansen, Samuels, Wade, Fabini, and Heyer. we need a starting quality corner, as shawn is no "spring" chicken, and smoot and rogers are just solid twos. we need a dynamic wideout, as we've been suffering there for a couple of years. D line has been a soft spot on our D for a while. Griff was a monster his first year, but steadily declined and hasn't had much support. Carter has been great, but daniels is avg.
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[QUOTE=canthetuna;432723]I think we're good at tackle and guard... I said guard in the poll, thinking of kendall and thomas, but beyond them depth may be an issue moreso at guard than at tackle, when I think about Jansen, Samuels, Wade, Fabini, and Heyer. we need a starting quality corner, as shawn is no "spring" chicken, and smoot and rogers are just solid twos. we need a dynamic wideout, as we've been suffering there for a couple of years. D line has been a soft spot on our D for a while. Griff was a monster his first year, but steadily declined and hasn't had much support. Carter has been great, but daniels is avg.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking, if Chris Wilson can bulk up a bit, and then he could become the starting DE, we could move Phillip Daniels to DT, like he was on 3rd downs, and he could provide a nice pass rush from there as he did throughout last year, well he provided a better pass rush from DT than he was DE. |
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Long shot, but I'd love to see Alex Buzbee emerge this year.
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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;432731]Long shot, but I'd love to see Alex Buzbee emerge this year.[/QUOTE]
crazy I was thinking the same thing last week. |
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[QUOTE=Stuck in TX;432734]crazy I was thinking the same thing last week.[/QUOTE]
Damn straight, we're starting the Buzbee Bandwagon! |
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Samuels and Jansen are pretty good. In that sense, we don't need to improve our position at OT. Nonetheless, I think we really need to start adding quality youth to the O-line. Fielding 5 starting O-lineman over the age of 30 in 2008 is a recipe for serious problems in 2009 and beyond.
Moreover, I think we need to upgrade our depth along the O-line. As evidenced by our woes the past few seasons, depth along the O-line is essential. |
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Just got back from the Wiz game. Arrrgggghhhhhhh.
Anyway, since this thread didn't specify a time frame, for this season, I'll say we LEAST need to improve at tackle. If Jansen is healthy and Heyer is still around, and Samuels turns in another pro bowl year, clearly tackle is the strongest of the listed positions. |
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[QUOTE=GMScud;432803]Just got back from the Wiz game. Arrrgggghhhhhhh.
Anyway, since this thread didn't specify a time frame, for this season, I'll say we LEAST need to improve at tackle. If Jansen is healthy and Heyer is still around, and Samuels turns in another pro bowl year, clearly tackle is the strongest of the listed positions.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/432577-post1.html[/url] "So with that in mind, where can we afford to go with the [B]status quo for another year?[/B]" |
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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;432807][url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/432577-post1.html[/url]
"So with that in mind, where can we afford to go with the [B]status quo for another year?[/B]"[/QUOTE] DT... we have a solid group of guys who are mostly pretty young and will be dominant. |
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[quote=SmootSmack;432807][URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/432577-post1.html[/URL]
"So with that in mind, where can we afford to go with the [B]status quo for another year?[/B]"[/quote] So for 2008 I'll say DT and OT are a tie. Montgomery/Golston/Griffin will be the defensive equivalent of Jansen and Samuels with Heyer filling in. Sorry I missed your specifics. It slightly changes my answer, but not by much. OT and DT are neck and neck IMO. Or at least very close to it. |
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here they are:
[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/12324-2006-draft-kendric-golston-dt-extensive.html[/url] [url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/12321-2006-draft-anthony-montgomery-dt-extensive.html[/url] [url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/12322-2006-draft-reed-doughty-fs-extensive.html[/url] |
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If Jansen is healthy, we have a really great pair of tackles with solid depth. Maybe get some undrafted FA's there for camp bodies but really we are set at Tackle.
I'd like to see more LB depth picked up on Day 2. |
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Awfully tough poll question. I could make a case for every option being a pretty big need, but if I had to pick one I'd probably say OT is the least of my concerns.
Samuels is a rock, and hopefully Jansen can avoid the freak injuries. If that works out we're pretty set at OT, and I like Heyer for depth at RT. Not sure what we would do if we lost Samuels for any length of time... that could be scary. |
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I got an idea. If he is still available how about the OG from VT? I mean Kendall has about 1 more year in him and IF Thomas can stay healthy we should be solid up front for a year, but if we draft a young very talented OG in the 1st round to groom and be the replacement for years to come I believe that we would be better off.
Plus June 1st cuts, who knows maybe then we could find that young big receiver we covet, or even better a CB or DE. Just a thought Hail skins |
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Assume today they just hired me as General Manager. Here is my first...and multitude orders of business.
Watch the free agent wire...as we have been. For chump change, we can pick up some solid backup needs at the right price. At Wide Receiver I would resign Reche Caldwell and also pick up Aaron Moorehead...a big target who reminds me of Chris Cooley...only a little faster. I would sign Takeo Spikes at Linebacker- he still has gas in the tank and goes well with Fletcher. ALso, I would bring back Renaldo Wynn. All these defensive players can be gotten at or near the league veteran minumum. I would also bring in Ty Law or Mike Doss to sure up the secondary and at the same time, resign Prioleau at Safety. THEN...in the draft...1st round, I draft a wide receiver: I think Malcomb Kelly or Limas Sweed will be there and we need to grab either of those two. 2nd round we take a chance on Calais Campbell...his stock is quickly falling but still a solid second round pick. In the 3rd, I go shopping for the best Safety available, which I think will be Josh Barrett of Arizona St. No 4th round pick leaves me with taking a cornerback in the 5th round...maybe Tyvon Branch and then Robert Felton, Offensive Guard in the 6th round...and probably a defensive lineman like Jordan Grimes in the 7th round. BY THE WAY...watch the skins young runningback MASON to make the team again as well as Chris Wilson, DE...good young talent. |
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[QUOTE=billyredskin;433316]Assume today they just hired me as General Manager. Here is my first...and multitude orders of business.
Watch the free agent wire...as we have been. For chump change, we can pick up some solid backup needs at the right price. At Wide Receiver I would resign Reche Caldwell and also pick up Aaron Moorehead...a big target who reminds me of Chris Cooley...only a little faster. I would sign Takeo Spikes at Linebacker- he still has gas in the tank and goes well with Fletcher. ALso, I would bring back Renaldo Wynn. All these defensive players can be gotten at or near the league veteran minumum. I would also bring in Ty Law or Mike Doss to sure up the secondary and at the same time, resign Prioleau at Safety. THEN...in the draft...1st round, I draft a wide receiver: I think Malcomb Kelly or Limas Sweed will be there and we need to grab either of those two. 2nd round we take a chance on Calais Campbell...his stock is quickly falling but still a solid second round pick. In the 3rd, I go shopping for the best Safety available, which I think will be Josh Barrett of Arizona St. No 4th round pick leaves me with taking a cornerback in the 5th round...maybe Tyvon Branch and then Robert Felton, Offensive Guard in the 6th round...and probably a defensive lineman like Jordan Grimes in the 7th round. BY THE WAY...watch the skins young runningback MASON to make the team again as well as Chris Wilson, DE...good young talent.[/QUOTE] What exactly does this have to do with the poll question? |
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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;432577]It's unlikely we'll be able to fill all our needs in the draft, and barring a trade (CJ?) or last minute free agent signing (Scott?) we're not likely to make many other moves in free agency/trades.
So with that in mind, where can we afford to go with the status quo for another year? In other words, what do we LEAST need?[/QUOTE] Quarterback |
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[QUOTE=30gut;433507]Quarterback[/QUOTE]
:Smoker: |
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[quote=SmootSmack;433327]What exactly does this have to do with the poll question?[/quote]
perhaps he means that we least need to improve at GM? :) good post billy, even if Smoot thinks its off topic! |
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