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CJ's appearance on NFL Total Access today
I recommend that you check this interview out. The start of questioning gets really uncomfortable. CJ asks them not to bring up his situation because he has already addressed it enough and the hosts continue to directly bring it up.
Very uncomfortable, at one point, Rod Woodson questions his size saying that he never knew he was that skinny. At the end CJ does say he wants a change of scenery...hopefully not in DC. |
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If he continues at this rate the Bengals will be forced to trade soon and for a cheaper price. Well I think that is what his plans are
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chances are no matter where he goes he wont produce like he has in the past w/o palmer giving him the ball... i see it ending up like when moss went to the raiders IMO
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[quote]chances are no matter where he goes he wont produce like he has in the past w/o palmer giving him the ball... i see it ending up like when moss went to the raiders IMO[/quote]
CJ was producing before Palmer got to Cincy. What you're going to see is TJ Houswhocares is not nearly as good as is stats indicate due to Chad Johnson pulling double coverage. CJ instantly improves any team even if he isn't catching balls. That would leave El/Moss 1v1. |
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One thing I DID learn today is that Chad Johnson knows nothing about the economy. :biggthump
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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;433172]One thing I DID learn today is that Chad Johnson knows nothing about the economy. :biggthump[/QUOTE]
Neither does our current president Zing! All joking aside, I wonder if there is enough leadership within the Redskins to keep CJ in line if he were to come here. I mean if we were to get him cheap (a lower pick other than our 1st round) why not? I know Lloyd was a headcase, but he didn't produce much before getting here, whereas with CJ you're getting a guy that producess 1000+ yd season, and even if he doesn't produce much, like someone said earlier, he would open up the field for Santana and ARE. |
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i have this odd feeling that we might see something on draft day happen w/ CJ & the skins. He wants out bad....we need-want a WR. I know what all of the Bengals FO are saying but i still think they are shopping him. Who knows maybe someone can steal him for a decent price?
Whether you like him or not the facts are the facts. We need a WR, he wants out of Cincy, his agent is close to us, and he has friends here. It makes too much sense. |
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If we would have to trade a 2nd rounder and a 6th for him, I would do it in a heartbeat. You have a proven 1000+ yards guy. He has a huge desire to win. He is entertaining to boot. I do not get why anyone would not want him. He is not that big of a distraction, like TO is. This is the first time he has acted out like this wanting a trade, and I do not blame him. The Bengals were moving up and took a huge step back last year, he wants to win as he only has a few more years left.
I would welcome Ocho Cinco here and be one of the first to buy myself an 85 Johnson jersey.... Hope to see Chad in the B&G... Hail |
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Acquiring CJ would defeat our new offseason strategy. We need to start developing our own players with our early draft picks. Then our coaching staff can do its job by molding the younger players into our scheme.
It a long hard road to walk and you can't trade or spend your way to the end of it. |
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All you see if the finish product though. You see me trash talking and then you see the finish product, you dont see all the work that was put into prior to that. I'm on the fence, and I think its funny he told them that he would "blow primetime u if he came out there with his legs all open" and he said this to Woodson " See, thats the thing you people dont know. I study my opponents, I know everything they are bad at, and everything they are good at. Rod, I woulda studied your film all the way back to your rookie year.
TO me, chad johnson has a GREAT work ethic and that just shows you how much he wants to win he will study his opponents every move and he will know what to exploit and what to not even try. |
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[quote=Skinny Tee;433192]Acquiring CJ would defeat our new offseason strategy. We need to start developing our own players with our early draft picks. Then our coaching staff can do its job by molding the younger players into our scheme.
It a long hard road to walk and you can't trade or spend your way to the end of it.[/quote] I agree that we have a new offseason strategy, but this would only be one picj up and it would not be overpaying for someone who we think might be good (Lloyd) or is way past their prime (Sanders, Bruce Smith), this would be a trade for a proven player with lots of good years left. I do not think any WR in the draft can hold a candle to 85. So as far as I see it, our strategy would still be in tact and we get a huge boost in our WR corp. Think of it, Moss on one side, 85 on the other, Randle El in the slot, Cooley out of the TE position and Clinton in the backfield.... That is a scary offence and not a lot of teams would be able to stop that cause if you try to shut down one of them we still have the other four. I think this trade makes too much sense for us and if the Bengals finally cave I think we get him for no more then what the Raiders are offering for D.Hall. |
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[quote=CanadianSkin;433200]I agree that we have a new offseason strategy, but this would only be one picj up and it would not be overpaying for someone who we think might be good (Lloyd) or is way past their prime (Sanders, Bruce Smith), this would be a trade for a proven player with lots of good years left. I do not think any WR in the draft can hold a candle to 85. So as far as I see it, our strategy would still be in tact and we get a huge boost in our WR corp. Think of it, Moss on one side, 85 on the other, Randle El in the slot, Cooley out of the TE position and Clinton in the backfield.... That is a scary offence and not a lot of teams would be able to stop that cause if you try to shut down one of them we still have the other four. I think this trade makes too much sense for us and if the Bengals finally cave I think we get him for no more then what the Raiders are offering for D.Hall.[/quote]
We get CJ and we will bring home the Lombardi Offseason Champions Trophy. We'll always be paper champions with that sentiment. |
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I say if it can happen then MAKE IT HAPPEN !!! I understand that everyone is all media happy with the new low spending approach but it wasn't so much the money that was spent it was how at times. I presonally feel that the money that the Skins wasted was getting Al Saunders. But Chad, CHAD, CHAD ? Get him here. Of course you don't take out a second and third mortgage out to get him but still. If it can work, get that guy in here.
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I sort of wanted CJ to be in DC untill I saw this interview, I used to think that he was just a showman and just said everything he did for fun, but now I think he's a dumb asshole. His responses to the questions were painful, and never really answered the questions. And when he said that he is a likable person, and that if you dont like him than there is something wrong with you, I wanted to hit him in the face for being so cocky. I guess there is something wrong with me, cause now I dont like him.
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[quote=Skinny Tee;433153]I recommend that you check this interview out. The start of questioning gets really uncomfortable. CJ asks them not to bring up his situation because he has already addressed it enough and the hosts continue to directly bring it up.
Very uncomfortable, at one point, Rod Woodson questions his size saying that he never knew he was that skinny. At the end CJ does say he wants a change of scenery...hopefully not in DC.[/quote] I watched the interview. If he didn't want to be pressed on the issue then why did he go on the show?? He's at the Pro Bowl telling everyone with a mic that he wants to be traded. Then he goes on NFL Network and doesn't want to talk about it? What are they suppose to ask him? Is he so stupid that he didn't think Eisen and the gang weren't going to ask him about being traded when that's all he's been talking about?? CJ is starting to remind me of a mini TO. |
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[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;433225]I sort of wanted CJ to be in DC untill I saw this interview, I used to think that he was just a showman and just said everything he did for fun, but now I think he's a dumb asshole. His responses to the questions were painful, and never really answered the questions. And when he said that he is a likable person, and that if you dont like him than there is something wrong with you, I wanted to hit him in the face for being so cocky. I guess there is something wrong with me, cause now I dont like him.[/quote]
Once CJ put on that HOF jacket after he scored a TD, that's when I stopped being a CJ fan. Since he's been there has Cinn even won one playoff game?? Get over yourself. |
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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;433227]I watched the interview. If he didn't want to be pressed on the issue then why did he go on the show?? He's at the Pro Bowl telling everyone with a mic that he wants to be traded. Then he goes on NFL Network and doesn't want to talk about it? What are they suppose to ask him? Is he so stupid that he didn't think Eisen and the gang weren't going to ask him about being traded when that's all he's been talking about?? CJ is starting to remind me of a mini TO.[/QUOTE]
His agent believes if he stays quite he could get a deal to move him out but your right why show up then. |
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[QUOTE=CanadianSkin;433200]I agree that we have a new offseason strategy, but this would only be one picj up and it would not be overpaying for someone who we think might be good (Lloyd) or is way past their prime (Sanders, Bruce Smith), this would be a trade for a proven player with lots of good years left. I do not think any WR in the draft can hold a candle to 85. So as far as I see it, our strategy would still be in tact and we get a huge boost in our WR corp. [B]Think of it, Moss on one side, 85 on the other, Randle El in the slot, Cooley out of the TE position and Clinton in the backfield.... [/B]That is a scary offence and not a lot of teams would be able to stop that cause if you try to shut down one of them we still have the other four. I think this trade makes too much sense for us and if the Bengals finally cave I think we get him for no more then what the Raiders are offering for D.Hall.[/QUOTE]
Seems like the names change but we each say/read this same sentence every year. I just want to develop our own talent. |
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how is staying quiet gonna get him traded??
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That Degree money will make you do dumb things...
...like using a nickname when speaking about yourself in the third person..."Wait, stop Ocho Cinco, it IS about the money, this is a business" |
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[QUOTE=Dirtyskin21;433232]how is staying quiet gonna get him traded??[/QUOTE]
Don't know that is what his agent said on NFL Live that they were trying to work something out behind doors quitely. |
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hmm... thats crazy
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If we got CJ, I would piss in my pants. That would make this boring free agent year, better than any that proceeded it, and I could stop the Mix BS.
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He is a complete clown. I don't want him anywhere near Ashburn.
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[QUOTE=KB24;433322]He is a complete clown. I don't want him anywhere near Ashburn.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the board. Kelvin Bryant...so underrated |
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I hope he doesn't go to the eagles
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It's getting a little more STINKO in Cincy. Source PFT.com
HOUSHMANDZADEH UNHAPPY TOO? Posted by Michael David Smith on March 19, 2008, 7:24 p.m. As Bengals receiver Chad Johnson has made sure everyone knows in the last couple of days, he isn’t happy in Cincinnati and isn’t planning to show up to off-season workouts. But Johnson isn’t alone. Adam Schefter of NFL Network is reporting that the Bengals’ other starting wide receiver, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, also is expected to skip the start of the voluntary conditioning program. Houshmandzadeh is in the final year of four-year contract and is scheduled to make a base salary of $2.525 million, and he thinks that, coming off a season in which he tied for the league lead in receptions, he’s worth more than that. Skipping conditioning might not be a huge issue: Houshmandzadeh also skipped the team’s voluntary off-season conditioning last year, and he still managed those 112 catches. So maybe he doesn’t need to be with the team in March to be ready to play in September. But the Bengals need to figure out which players will be the focal points of their passing game going forward. A few years ago it looked like Johnson, Houshmandzadeh and Carson Palmer could make up the nucleus of a Super Bowl-winning passing attack. Now, with Johnson and Houshmandzadeh both 30 years old, it’s looking like the playoff game when Johnson had to be restrained by coach Marvin Lewis could be Johnson’s only one in Cincinnati. |
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[quote=Skinny Tee;433192]Acquiring CJ would defeat our new offseason strategy. We need to start developing our own players with our early draft picks. Then our coaching staff can do its job by molding the younger players into our scheme.
It a long hard road to walk and you can't trade or spend your way to the end of it.[/quote] what new strategy? you mean vinny's "i'll do what it takes to make this team better" strategy? cause he's already said he's more than willing to sign a high dollar player, but that it's got to be the right guy. |
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I think that people have so much resentment built up from years of failed free agent signings that they forget how often these moves are successful. We need look no further than Randy Moss to see the impact that a big time receiver can have on an offense.
If the price for CJ is a second and sixth and I don't see the drawback to making that move. |
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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;433324]Welcome to the board. Kelvin Bryant...so underrated[/QUOTE]
Thanks! Good to be here! [QUOTE=djnemo65;433430]I think that people have so much resentment built up from years of failed free agent signings that they forget how often these moves are successful. We need look no further than Randy Moss to see the impact that a big time receiver can have on an offense. If the price for CJ is a second and sixth and I don't see the drawback to making that move.[/QUOTE] We have a new head coach who has enough to worry about without some me-first clown complaining when things aren't going well. I also don't want him getting in JC's face everytime the ball isn't thrown his way. I have a VERY vivid memory of Stinko arguing with Carson Palmer after an interception that turned out to be Johnson's fault because he ran the wrong route. He would be a locker-room cancer and I don't think it's worth poisoning the team. I'd rather take our chances with a receiver in the second or third round, and see what Anthony Mix can do -- given that he and JC have a history together. |
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[quote=KB24;433444]Thanks! Good to be here!
We have a new head coach who has enough to worry about without some me-first clown complaining when things aren't going well. I also don't want him getting in JC's face everytime the ball isn't thrown his way. I have a VERY vivid memory of Stinko arguing with Carson Palmer after an interception that turned out to be Johnson's fault because he ran the wrong route. He would be a locker-room cancer and I don't think it's worth poisoning the team. I'd rather take our chances with a receiver in the second or third round, and see what Anthony Mix can do -- given that he and JC have a history together.[/quote] I agree. I rather suffer for another year at WR and find a solution next year than have CJ suit up as a Redskin. I know he's a great wide out but I agree that his attitude would affect the present coaching staff. |
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[quote=djnemo65;433430]I think that people have so much resentment built up from years of failed free agent signings that they forget how often these moves are successful. We need look no further than Randy Moss to see the impact that a big time receiver can have on an offense.
If the price for CJ is a second and sixth and I don't see the drawback to making that move.[/quote] Sorry but Chad Johnson is not Randy Moss. Moss is one of the greatest WR's to ever play football. You team him up with one of the best QB's to ever play the game and you have an offensive explosion. CJ will help us but he's not going to have the same impact that Moss did. Besides we need those draft picks in the worst way. I keep saying this but we can not afford to ignore the O-line another year. |
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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;433522]Sorry but Chad Johnson is not Randy Moss. Moss is one of the greatest WR's to ever play football. You team him up with one of the best QB's to ever play the game and you have an offensive explosion. CJ will help us but he's not going to have the same impact that Moss did. Besides we need those draft picks in the worst way. I keep saying this but we can not afford to ignore the O-line another year.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100% with you right here. But I would say, I wouldn't be upset if Chad Johnson came to us though. I just hope we can land us a STUD possession receiver soon. (young) |
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[QUOTE=BeastsoftheNFCeast;433225]I sort of wanted CJ to be in DC untill I saw this interview, I used to think that he was just a showman and just said everything he did for fun, but now I think he's a dumb asshole. His responses to the questions were painful, and never really answered the questions. And when he said that he is a likable person, and that if you dont like him than there is something wrong with you, I wanted to hit him in the face for being so cocky. I guess there is something wrong with me, cause now I dont like him.[/QUOTE]
What you need is a PHD in BS to even begin to decipher what the hell this guy is even talking about. Talent, he has it, brains, he left on the tracks. CJ wants to be entertaining but the things he says' sometimes are just a little far out. When he thinks he's being laughed with, he's actually being laughed at. Maybe he would be better served not to talk so much. For a man to say "If you don't like me, there must be something wrong with you" is a statement you won't hear a sane person make. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;433522]Sorry but Chad Johnson is not Randy Moss. Moss is one of the greatest WR's to ever play football. You team him up with one of the best QB's to ever play the game and you have an offensive explosion. CJ will help us but he's not going to have the same impact that Moss did. Besides we need those draft picks in the worst way. I keep saying this but we can not afford to ignore the O-line another year.[/quote]
I agree with you 100% also CJ is not RM. and....well I don't think Moss is the greatest WR ever....he's had his share of problems. While with the Vikes he had his issues. Dropping ball and not making plays. I beleive he wanted out of there partly because of the QB play and he not getting the ball enough(plus more money). So he goes to the Raiders. There he has piss pour QBing causing piss pour performance. So he leaves for a team with playoff contention. ie...Patriots. Now he has a good QB and gets the ball alot. No complaints like when he was with the Vikes or Raiders. Hmmmm. Lets see CJ has had a piss pour QB most of his career and has done well. Ok bring up Palmer. I don't think he's a great QB like Bradey but he is good and CJ still put up the numbers. If giving up a draft pick this yr and one next yr will get CJ then it's not hurting us in the worst way. Draft a WR and its hit or miss and some say they are not ready for atleast 2 yrs. CJ is ready now. He's proven and has played in the league and knows how to get seperation against the NFL's best not like an unknown who we have to find out if he can play with the big boys. CJ would make this team 100 times better. Teams would have to figure out who to cover. Double CJ, Moss or El or Cooley has to be open. There would be no stacking the box against Portis. The O-line is not bad but does need back up help. I say not bad cause the O-linemen will not be asked to hold there blocks as long. Hopefully they will be able to open up some holes for Portis like he had in Denver. It also depends a lot on the type of O-lineman we have. Gibbs always like the big beafy lineman but they are slower. A lot of schemes need the smaller quicker lineman for some of the blocking schemes. We definitly need a tall talented WR who can play. We need a DE/DL to releive the older guys. We need a CB to help out until Carlos comes back and be available in case he falls out again. We could use another Safety for giggles. Possibly another LB because who knows how Macintosh will fare out with his injury and yes we need O-line. Probably not in that order but our track record with WR has proven horrible. I am not impressed with our WR coach either. I felt we should have gotten rid of him along time ago. So If giving up a draft pick this yr and one next yr gets the deal done then lets do it. We will also have compensatory picks and we could lump one of those in instead of next yrs pick. I have faith in our O-line coach. He is one of the best and can turn almost anyone into pro bowl status. Look at Hayer his first yr as a pro and did pretty well. Imagine how he will do in the future. I guess I didn't agree 100% after all. Sorry. but to get a proven talented tall WR (which we need) will give Cambell not only someone to put the ball up for but will open other Wr and TE in or corps of weapons to confound the opponents and force them to gamble more causing mayhem and chaos which enables the Skins to hopefully get further in the playoffs as TO helped Dallas, as Moss helped the Patriots, sorry I don't have anything for Detroit....all their WR and they still stink. lol. |
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[quote=Dirtyskin21;433544]I agree 100% with you right here. But I would say, I wouldn't be upset if Chad Johnson came to us though. I just hope we can land us a STUD possession receiver soon. (young)[/quote]
I would be upset if we gave up two draft picks. Plus he wants a new deal. Plus he brings a lot of drama. I would be willing to bet that if the FO really did their homework they could find a potential stud at wr in the 3rd round. Look at Brandon Marshall?? Wasn't TO a 3rd rounder? What about Greg Jennings?? Marcus Colston?? IMO our FO does a decent job drafting and finding bargain talent. It's picking the FA's is where the problem comes in. |
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