Pearl Jam on tour this summer
 

Got this from the PJ fan club yesterday:

The opening act for dates June 11-17 will be Kings of Leon. Opening act for dates June 19-30 will be Ted Leo and The Pharmacists.

All dates and times are subject to change.

DATE CITY/STATE VENUE

Jun 11 West Palm, FL Cruzan Amp.
Jun 12 Tampa, FL St. Pete Forum
Jun 16 Columbia, SC Colonial Ctr.

Jun 17 Virginia Bch,VA Verizon Amp.
Jun 19 Camden, NJ Susquehanna
Jun 22 Washington, DC Verizon Center

Jun 24 New York, NY MSG Arena
Jun 25 New York, NY MSG Arena

Jun 27 Hartford, CT Dodge Amp.
Jun 30 Mansfield, MA Tweeter Center

** June 12-15 Pearl Jam will perform at the Bonnaroo Music Festival in Manchester, TN. Tickets are currently on sale through [URL="http://www.bonnaroo.com/"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.bonnaroo.com[/COLOR][/URL]

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I had no idea they were going back on tour.
I was told Eddie Vedder left the group...is that even true?

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[quote=jsarno;433991]I had no idea they were going back on tour.
I was told Eddie Vedder left the group...is that even true?[/quote]

that's a big negative

He did a solo album but he definitely did not leave the band. They're working on a new album and heading out on the road this summer (obviously)

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;434246]that's a big negative

He did a solo album but he definitely did not leave the band. They're working on a new album and heading out on the road this summer (obviously)[/QUOTE]

I am a MASSIVE Pearl Jam fan...that's good to hear. I hate the fact that I live all the way out here, you never hear anything about groups. We have 6 radio stations here. 3 country, 1 "mix", and 2 spanish. It's pathetic.

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Sadly they'll need a handicapped ramp to get onto stage.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;434294]Sadly they'll need a handicapped ramp to get onto stage.[/QUOTE]

Eddie Vedder is only 43. Jeesh...it's not like they are the Rolling Stones.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;434294]Sadly they'll need a handicapped ramp to get onto stage.[/QUOTE]

What?

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[quote=Daseal;434294]Sadly they'll need a handicapped ramp to get onto stage.[/quote]

guess you haven't seen them lately they still put on a great show

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wow, I didn't know anybody even gave a flying horse shit about them anymore. Oh well not knocking anyone who is a fan, but I cant stand them. I never was into the whole crybaby, the earth is dying, whiny, tree hugging, flannel shirt, ripped jeans, grunge vomit. A great friend of mine is a production or stage mgr.(cant remember which) at the Va Bch amp theater, and can get me in to any show, sold out or not, and I wont be abusing that privilege on this show...for sure.

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[QUOTE=SkinEmAll;434355]wow, I didn't know anybody even gave a flying horse shit about them anymore. Oh well not knocking anyone who is a fan, but I cant stand them. I never was into the whole crybaby, the earth is dying, whiny, tree hugging, flannel shirt, ripped jeans, grunge vomit. A great friend of mine is a production or stage mgr.(cant remember which) at the Va Bch amp theater, and can get me in to any show, sold out or not, and I wont be abusing that privilege on this show...for sure.[/QUOTE]

What was the point of that post?

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Matty -- I'd argue Pearl Jam never put on a good show, nor a good sound. I've never gotten into them.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;434366]Matty -- I'd argue Pearl Jam never put on a good show, nor a good sound. I've never gotten into them.[/QUOTE]

Well, that would be a horrible argument. You can't name many groups with three outstanding cd's like Ten, VS, and Vitology, all back to back to back. Pearl Jam is one of the best groups of all time. They will forever be linked to the grunge era music like Nirvana and STP for instance.
If I recall, you are a 311 fan right? 311 has never had a CD that has done as well as any of the 3 mentioned PJ cd's. PJ revolutionized music and if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have the music we have today. They were pioneers.

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[quote=Daseal;434366]Matty -- I'd argue Pearl Jam never put on a good show, nor a good sound. I've never gotten into them.[/quote]

To each his own.

No need to shit on those that do like them though.

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[quote=SkinEmAll;434355]wow, I didn't know anybody even gave a flying horse shit about them anymore. Oh well not knocking anyone who is a fan, but I cant stand them. I never was into the whole crybaby, the earth is dying, whiny, tree hugging, flannel shirt, ripped jeans, grunge vomit. A great friend of mine is a production or stage mgr.(cant remember which) at the Va Bch amp theater, and can get me in to any show, sold out or not, and I wont be abusing that privilege on this show...for sure.[/quote]

Actually, I'd have to agree with you.

I never really got into them but I'd listen to them if I heard them on the radio. They were OK.

But, in the past few years, Vedder has gone the Barbara Streisand, Dixie Chicks and Bruce Springsteen route of ruining their shows to tell us what they think, what we should think and who to vote for. That doesn't belong in concerts. If I pay money to hear someone's music, they better shut up and sing.

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Yes PJ is politically active but I've never found that to interfere with their shows. They still rock out for a good 2-3 hours most nights and they'll rip through upwards of 30 songs. So they do indeed shut up and play. Eddie isn't one for much chatter during shows as it is other than 'thank you' and saying hello to the crowd.

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[quote=SkinEmAll;434355]wow, I didn't know anybody even gave a flying horse shit about them anymore. Oh well not knocking anyone who is a fan, but I cant stand them. I never was into the whole crybaby, the earth is dying, whiny, tree hugging, flannel shirt, ripped jeans, grunge vomit. A great friend of mine is a production or stage mgr.(cant remember which) at the Va Bch amp theater, and can get me in to any show, sold out or not, and I wont be abusing that privilege on this show...for sure.[/quote]

Considering their last album debuted at #2 on the charts and they can still sell out places like Madison Square Garden on consecutive nights, I guess enough people out there do give a flying horse shit about them.

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[quote=Mattyk72;434468]Yes PJ is politically active but I've never found that to interfere with their shows. They still rock out for a good 2-3 hours most nights and they'll rip through upwards of 30 songs. So they do indeed shut up and play. Eddie isn't one for much chatter during shows as it is other than 'thank you' and saying hello to the crowd.[/quote]

I usually don't trust Wikipedia, but I have always heard reports about him shooting off his mouth in concerts and disappointing people. This seems to back up the reports I've heard:

[QUOTE]The band, and especially frontman Eddie Vedder, have been vocal supporters of the pro-choice movement. In 1992 [I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_%28magazine%29"]Spin[/URL][/I] printed an article by Vedder, entitled "Reclamation", that detailed his views on abortion.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam#cite_note-83"][84][/URL] In an [I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Unplugged"]MTV Unplugged[/URL][/I] concert the same year, Vedder stood on a stool and wrote "PRO-CHOICE!" on his arm in protest.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam#cite_note-tenpast-31"][32][/URL] The band are members of a number of pro-choice organizations, including [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_USA"]Choice USA[/URL] and Voters for Choice.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam#cite_note-causes-80"][81][/URL]
As members of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_the_Vote"]Rock the Vote[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_for_Change"]Vote for Change[/URL], the band has encouraged voter registration and participation in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States"]United States elections[/URL]. Vedder was outspoken in support of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_%28United_States%29"]Green Party[/URL] presidential candidate [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader"]Ralph Nader[/URL] in 2000[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam#cite_note-84"][85][/URL] and Pearl Jam played a series of concerts on the Vote for Change tour in October 2004, supporting the candidacy of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry"]John Kerry[/URL] for [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States"]U.S. President[/URL]. In a [I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone"]Rolling Stone[/URL][/I] feature showcasing the Vote for Change tour's performers, Vedder told the magazine, "I supported Ralph Nader in 2000, but it's a time of crisis. We have to get a new administration in."[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam#cite_note-85"][86][/URL]
Vedder usually comments on politics between songs, often to criticize U.S. foreign policy, and a number of his songs, including "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bu%24hleaguer"]Bu$hleaguer[/URL]" and "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Suicide"]World Wide Suicide[/URL]", are openly critical of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_administration"]Bush administration[/URL]. At Lollapalooza 2007, Vedder spoke out against [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP_Amoco"]BP Amoco[/URL] dumping effluent in Lake Michigan; at the end of "Daughter", he sang the lyrics "George Bush leave this world alone/George Bush find yourself another home". In the beginning of the second encore Vedder invited Iraq war veteran Tomas Young, the subject of the documentary [I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_of_War"]Body of War[/URL][/I], onto the stage to urge an end to the war. [/QUOTE]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam]Pearl Jam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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My guess is you wouldn't be saying he's shooting off his mouth and disappointing people if he was talking about policies you agree with

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[quote=Buster;434737]I usually don't trust Wikipedia, but I have always heard reports about him shooting off his mouth in concerts and disappointing people. This seems to back up the reports I've heard:



[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam"]Pearl Jam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL][/quote]

Your referring to a select few incidents, I've seen them multiple times and I've never heard much political talk from them, and when I have it's usually well received by the crowd. As I said they are political but that's definitely not what they're all about.

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[quote=SmootSmack;434741]My guess is you wouldn't be saying he's shooting off his mouth and disappointing people if he was talking about policies you agree with[/quote]

And I'd say a good majority of PJ fans probably lean to the left anyway.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;434746]And I'd say a good majority of PJ fans probably lean to the left anyway.[/QUOTE]

Well I don't agree with much of what Mr. Vedder has to say about politics...but that doesn't stop me from liking the music. In my opinion, "Black" is probably a top 5 song of the 1990s

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All this talk about politically active artists brings up a good issue.

How much do youi all care about political the stances of artists?

I long ago decided not to care since I disagreed with so many of them. I figured I'd be spending too much time trying to figure out which movies and songs I was allowed to like based on their political views. I don't have the time or energy for that stuff. I don't agree almost at all with most of what Vedder believes but I still like their sound, adore several of their songs, and think they get shafted in the Nirvana/Pearl jam debates. They are WAY BETTER than Nirvana in my opinion. I love 'em and don't care what they think.

In general though what do you all think?

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I feel if they want to speak out that's their right and I don't have to agree if I don't want to. I don't base my opinion of their music or of them as an artist based on what their political views are.

As for the Nirvana/PJ comparisons I don't think there even should be one. Yes they both came from Seattle and helped to usher in the whole grunge movement but other than that they really don't have much else in common musically.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;434758]All this talk about politically active artists brings up a good issue.

How much do youi all care about political the stances of artists?

I long ago decided not to care since I disagreed with so many of them. I figured I'd be spending too much time trying to figure out which movies and songs I was allowed to like based on their political views. I don't have the time or energy for that stuff. I don't agree almost at all with most of what Vedder believes but I still like their sound, adore several of their songs, and think they get shafted in the Nirvana/Pearl jam debates. They are WAY BETTER than Nirvana in my opinion. I love 'em and don't care what they think.

In general though what do you all think?[/QUOTE]

I think that's an interesting topic, that probably deserves its own thread

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;434747]Well I don't agree with much of what Mr. Vedder has to say about politics...but that doesn't stop me from liking the music. In my opinion, "Black" is probably a top 5 song of the 1990s[/QUOTE]

Ah yes, that is a great song. My favorite song is Alive. I still have that ranked #1 from the 90's.

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I think Black is essentially the anthem for grunge rock in the 90's. Sorry Teen Spirit but you suck. Black kicks your ass.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;434982]I think Black is essentially the anthem for grunge rock in the 90's. Sorry Teen Spirit but you suck. Black kicks your ass.[/QUOTE]

I do wonder where Nirvana would be today had Cobain not killed himself / been killed.