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freddyg12 03-25-2008 06:57 PM

espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
FYI, just saw that espn will feature the skins tomorrow night, wednesday, at 6 on sportscenter in the "on the clock" draft feature.

I used to think kiper was a tool but he's grown on me & I think he's pretty objective about each team. It's pretty slow now so any skins talk will be good to hear.

SmootSmack 03-25-2008 07:11 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
I don't know what he's been saying lately. Last I heard though, Kiper had the Redskins taking Talib in the first round.

Dirtbag59 03-25-2008 08:40 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[quote=SmootSmack;434626]I don't know what he's been saying lately. Last I heard though, Kiper had the Redskins taking Talib in the first round.[/quote]

Please stay away from Talib. I know I'm not in the draft a corner with the first round pick boat, but still, if we must draft a corner then please stay away from Talib.

As of today I have been pushing for the Redskins to draft Jenkins who is rated by some as the 2nd best corner in the draft. Plus he has experience at safety, and with the depth we have at corner we will be able to also have a backup FS that will be able to, god forbid, fill in for Landry, or allow Landry to move back to SS should anything happen to my BOY, Doughty. Also when Springs leaves in the next two years or so we'll still have 3 good corners on the roster.

Talib is to much of a boom or bust type guy, and personally I don't feel comfortable with a rookie corner that takes as many chances as Talib.

Remember, South Florida is close to Miami :D

SmootSmack 03-25-2008 09:44 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
We may be able to get Reggie Smith from Oklahoma in the 2nd round. Some things would have to fall in place for us but it could conceivably happen. Smith has college experience and success at both S and CB.

So as of March 25 I'll say:

1. DE Phillip Merling
2. DB Reggie Smith
3. OG Roy Scheuning (or Rachal if he falls there)
3. WR Paul Hubbard (let's see if we even get this pick)
5. DT Marcus Harrison

Rest TBD

Dirtbag59 03-25-2008 10:59 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Wow, check this out. Either our fan base is stupid, or we have a bunch of Cowboy fans voting for our pick on the ESPN Fan Mock draft. Also worth noting is the Ravens taking Brian Brohm at 8, the Bears taking Henne at 14

Mario Maningham 43.7%
Kenny Phillips 22.3%
Derrick Harvey 15.6%
Chris Williams 10.6%
LEDONIS MCKELVIN (The highest rated corner in the draft and currently a projected top 10 pick) 8%

MTK 03-26-2008 08:47 AM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;434664]Wow, check this out. Either our fan base is stupid, or we have a bunch of Cowboy fans voting for our pick on the ESPN Fan Mock draft. Also worth noting is the Ravens taking Brian Brohm at 8, the Bears taking Henne at 14

Mario Maningham 43.7%
Kenny Phillips 22.3%
Derrick Harvey 15.6%
Chris Williams 10.6%
LEDONIS MCKELVIN (The highest rated corner in the draft and currently a projected top 10 pick) 8%[/quote]

I voted for McKelvin. I hope it's not our fans that are that dumb. I was shocked to see the results.

GMScud 03-26-2008 10:18 AM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;434664]Wow, check this out. Either our fan base is stupid, or we have a bunch of Cowboy fans voting for our pick on the ESPN Fan Mock draft. Also worth noting is the Ravens taking Brian Brohm at 8, the Bears taking Henne at 14

Mario Maningham 43.7%
Kenny Phillips 22.3%
Derrick Harvey 15.6%
Chris Williams 10.6%
LEDONIS MCKELVIN (The highest rated corner in the draft and currently a projected top 10 pick) 8%[/quote]

Derrick Harvey's stock has been soaring lately, he'd be a steal at 21. Carolina apparently loves him and they pick 13. If Leodis McKelvin is there I'd love to get him. McKelvin, Jenkins, Rodgers-Cromartie, or Talib would all make me happy. I voted for McKelvin based on the fact that most mock drafts I've seen have him going right around top 10...

SkinsFanSince91 03-26-2008 12:07 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Stay away from Merling(recently underwent hernia surgery), Campbell(bad combine and work ethic), Talib(too raw and got cooked by Jordy Nelson several times), and Manningham (5'11 - we all know we need bigger receivers).

Harvey(hometown product - eleanor roosevelt HS), Cromartie, Jenkins, and McKelvin would be nice to have in the first. If they arent there then God help us. I see our FO doing some dumb ish if that is the case.

SmootSmack 03-26-2008 12:28 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Harvey would be a very solid pickup. Something about him I just don't like though. Can't figure it out.

Redskin Warrior 03-26-2008 01:11 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;434813]Harvey would be a very solid pickup. Something about him I just don't like though. Can't figure it out.[/QUOTE]

I like Harvey or this guy

[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/quentin-groves?id=240]NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Quentin Groves[/url]

GeneParmesan 03-26-2008 02:48 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
we need to be aggressive and make some trades happen. Trade up and get into the top 10!

Dirtbag59 03-26-2008 06:08 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[quote=SmootSmack;434813]Harvey would be a very solid pickup. Something about him I just don't like though. Can't figure it out.[/quote]

I know what you mean. I don't trust players from UF not named Tebow :D

SmootSmack 03-26-2008 06:14 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Kentwan Balmer is still a strong possibility. Though I think they'd rather pick up someone like Trevor Laws in round 2

Dirtbag59 03-26-2008 06:30 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[quote=SmootSmack;434918]Kentwan Balmer is still a strong possibility. Though I think they'd rather pick up someone like Trevor Laws in round 2[/quote]

I'm starting to sense a Trevor Laws man crush sweeping across the forum. Personally I like Laws as well and if the Redskins choose to adress the 3 technique in round 2 then it's obvious that Laws will probably be the guy, but the problem is theres a huge dropoff in talent after rounds 1 and 2 at CB and WR, which a lot of people have pointed out as being high priority positions in the eyes of the coaches and the front office this offseason.

Plus the need for a versitle lineman to possibly develop as a starter in round 3 makes offensive line a virtual lock for a pick in one of the first 3 rounds. McGlynn seems like the logical choice given that he's solid prospect and posseses the ability to play all 5 spots on the offensive line. However Felton reminds me a lot of Dockery, from his pre draft grades, his size, all the way to his style of play and I can't help but think the front office has already noticed this.

On top of that the draft is very deep at defensive line, especially when compared to last years class. If I had to guess I'd say that there will be a handful of starting defensive lineman that will emerge from day 2 picks this time around.

SKINSnCANES 03-26-2008 07:00 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
its on now, ill recap when its done

hooskins 03-26-2008 07:02 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Thanks

SKINSnCANES 03-26-2008 07:05 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
nothing we havent all talked about on here, they mentioned that Mix is getting a chance, said our obvious needs. Kiper said Linas s. is a reach and should go round 2 becuase he hasnt played since October and didnt look smooth in practice. And Harvey would be a good pick

and that 'itll be nice to hear the redskins name on draft day"

billyredskin 03-26-2008 10:01 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Doesn't ANYONE think we need to take a wide receiver in the 1st round?? What are your thoughts about that? Sweed? Kelly? Thomas? Jackson? Hardy? Doucet? I honestly don't know why, but my heart is set on getting a wide receiver in the 1st round. Some of you have said Jordy Nelson in the 2nd round...maybe that is their plans instead. Kiper still has us grabbing Talib in the 1st- my heart and brain tell me that is a BIG mistake. Cromartie or Cason is a better pick than that at Cornerback.

I have an idea. We should set a date...maybe April 24th or so and everyone should submit their draft projections...1-7th rounds. You get 1 point if you guess right for the 1st round...2 points for the 2nd round and so on...highest point total wins the honor of being named "Redskin Draft Guru" for 2008. I offer to tally everyone's projected lists and post them here.

Dirtbag59 03-26-2008 11:17 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
[quote=billyredskin;434969]Doesn't ANYONE think we need to take a wide receiver in the 1st round?? What are your thoughts about that? Sweed? Kelly? Thomas? Jackson? Hardy? Doucet? I honestly don't know why, but my heart is set on getting a wide receiver in the 1st round. Some of you have said Jordy Nelson in the 2nd round...maybe that is their plans instead. Kiper still has us grabbing Talib in the 1st- my heart and brain tell me that is a BIG mistake. Cromartie or Cason is a better pick than that at Cornerback.

I have an idea. We should set a date...maybe April 24th or so and everyone should submit their draft projections...1-7th rounds. You get 1 point if you guess right for the 1st round...2 points for the 2nd round and so on...highest point total wins the honor of being named "Redskin Draft Guru" for 2008. I offer to tally everyone's projected lists and post them here.[/quote]

Lol, you can't say 'some of you' have said Jordy in the 2nd round because thats all on me. Right now I'm starting to get the vibe that the Skins might not address the recieving position with their first 4 picks. In fact the only way would be if Jordy sliped to them in the third, which is possible, but I don't know how likely that scenario is.

It's very possible that a lot of those recievers you mentioned could slip to the early 2nd round like Rice and Jarret did last year so a slide like that could prevent teams from reaching on a guy like Jordy leaving him wide open for us to pickup in the third round, which for me would be a dream come true, given that one of the first two picks was a G like Rachel or Albert.

My dream scenario would be

1st - Branden Albert - G - UVA
2nd - Reggie Nelson - CB/S - Oklahoma
3rd - Jordy Nelson or Dre Moore
3rd comp - Wallace Gilberry - DE - Alabama

Oh yeah, ESPN has uploaded the segment
[U][COLOR=#760000][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/index"]ESPN - NFL Football Teams, Scores, Stats, News, Standings, Rumors - National Football League[/URL][/COLOR][/U]

Paintrain 03-26-2008 11:34 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Here's a link to the package [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3314419&categoryId=2378529&n8pe6c=2]Washington Redskins On the Clock - ESPN Video[/url]

I can't see us coming away from the 1st 2 rounds without a WR pick.. From what I see that's our #1 need..

That Guy 03-27-2008 06:16 AM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
manningham? weak.

how about f'ing harvey. that guys a beast and has a very very remote chance of making to 21, but he's the 3rd best DE in the draft (and a pretty safe pick, though gholston and long are true monsters) and he'd be a #10-18 type pick in basically any draft year.

GMScud 03-27-2008 11:49 AM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
I can't believe they mentioned Anthony Mix in the segment. :doh:
He has three catches in three seasons!!! What's the friggin fascination!

Anyway, I'd LOVE to have Derrick Harvey. I was psyched when he committed to the Gators 3 years ago, and I'd love to see him come home to DC. He and Carter as bookend pass rushers would be just sick. Unfortunately I don't think he'll be around at 21. Carolina wants him at 13.

Monkeydad 03-27-2008 12:11 PM

Re: espn on the clock, wed.@6
 
Mix does have a successful history with Campbell and impressed a lot of people on Special Teams last year.

He's a safer bet than a draft pick at WR in my opinion.

I don't think WR is our greatest need. We could use depth on the O-line and D-line, secondary depth, maybe a starter at safety, possibly a QB to backup Campbell for the future (Collins can't play too much longer).


If Mix works out, we have at least 5 capable WRs.

Moss, Randel El, Mix, McCardell, Thrash (remember the Philly game last season, he can still play when healthy).


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