Hamas endorses Obama
 

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If the terrorists want Obama to win, that should pretty much tell you that he is the wrong candidate for America.

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Well. This thread is already set to go down the tubes.

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I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett as the next president!!

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I could care less who endorses Obama. If he's the right man, he's the right man. If he's the wrong man, he's the wrong man. I'm certainly not going to let Hamas dictate how I am going to vote.

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[quote=Riggo44;440471]I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett as the next president!!

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Margaritaville, FTW!

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This reminds me of the KKK Endorses Obama email that went out a couple of weeks ago. This is freaking hilarious. The next thing you know the next Bin Laden tape will be him talking about going fishing with Obama to celebrate if he wins the presidency.

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[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgawfZAqgiE"]They fight to end conquest. [/URL]

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;440510]This reminds me of the KKK Endorses Obama email that went out a couple of weeks ago. This is freaking hilarious. The next thing you know the next Bin Laden tape will be him talking about going fishing with Obama to celebrate if he wins the presidency.[/quote]
If I'm correct Bin Laden did make a tape a year or so ago bashing the Dems for not standing up against Bush and some of the things he was doing to fight terrorism. It was something like that.

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Speaking of endorsements [URL="http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/1-0&fp=480841435c29b4f1&ei=r7EISO66J5u-qgOQlsHsDQ&url=http%3A//blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/04/16/obama-gets-superstar-superdelegate-endorsements/%3Fmod%3DWSJBlog&cid=1151630320&sig2=HqM9ORV6BJb0MAhKcVEKQg&usg=AFrqEzdib8Iqajon2KJjUrS6N_VzqiaIJg"]Bono[/URL] and Steelers owner [URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/04/15/bc.fbn.obama.rooney.ap/"]Rooney [/URL] endorsed Obama.

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This is hillarious.

Anyway, at the end of the day I don't think any one endorsement mounts to a hill of beans.

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Except mine...

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This should surprise no one.

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They know what they'll get from Hillary and they know what they'll get from McCain so is it any surprise that he gives them hope?

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[QUOTE=Buster;440611]This should surprise no one.[/QUOTE]

Come on. It's not like Obama is saying, "we need to surrender to the terrorists." He's not some terrorist sympathizer or wussie just because he doesn't talk like G.W.B. and label people as either "evildoers" or friends. Moreover, I don't think the Bush-supporting Repubs have much of a leg to stand on when it comes to foreign policy.

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Hamas are a bunch of morons. They're endorsing Obama because of the three candidates, he's the one they believe will let them get away with more crap. They wouldn't necessarily be correct in thinking that - I see no reason to believe Obama won't take a hard line against terrorists. He may pull out of Iraq, but that's entirely different from how he'd handle a group like Hamas.

None of the three candidates are likely to recognize Hamas or negotiate with them. The only difference between the three candidates is that McCain is willing to be openly hostile with them.

I can't possibly imagine better foreign policy than that. To me, foreign policy does not need to be defined by doing what's in the best interest of making peace. It's doing what's in the best interests of the United States, even if it doesn't earn you friends. Fuck Hamas, they can all die.

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But I think, on some level, it's interesting how others (abroad) inject themselves into our(domestic) political process. It seems like the word "endorse" has almost become trendy of late, and analogous to "we share the same ideologies and concerns; we're on the same side."

I wonder if it's a by product of our media driven culture.

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The folks up in Berkley support Obama too.;)

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Thanks SS.

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[quote=Schneed10;440659]Hamas are a bunch of morons. They're endorsing Obama because of the three candidates, he's the one they believe will let them get away with more crap. They wouldn't necessarily be correct in thinking that - I see no reason to believe Obama won't take a hard line against terrorists. He may pull out of Iraq, but that's entirely different from how he'd handle a group like Hamas.

None of the three candidates are likely to recognize Hamas or negotiate with them. The only difference between the three candidates is that McCain is willing to be openly hostile with them.

I can't possibly imagine better foreign policy than that. To me, foreign policy does not need to be defined by doing what's in the best interest of making peace. It's doing what's in the best interests of the United States, even if it doesn't earn you friends. Fuck Hamas, they can all die.[/quote]


I think the fact that his name is "Baraq Hussein Obama" may have helped sway them as well. If someone named "Charles W. Jones" were running for President of Iran, I would definitely be tempted to endorse him.

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For Obama supporters what is his stance on groups like Hamas?

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[quote=firstdown;441047]For Obama supporters what is his stance on groups like Hamas?[/quote]

[INDENT]“That’s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,” Obama said. “We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel’s destruction. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel’s right to exist and abide by past agreements.”
“Hamas is not a state. Hamas is a terrorist organization,” he said.

- Barack Obama
[/INDENT]

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[quote=12thMan;441053][INDENT]“That’s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,” Obama said. “We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel’s destruction. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel’s right to exist and abide by past agreements.”
“Hamas is not a state. Hamas is a terrorist organization,” he said.

- Barack Obama
[/INDENT][/quote]

Has Jeremiah Wright recognized Israel's right to exist yet?

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Here's a cite for that:
[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true]Obama criticizes ex-President Carter's Hamas meeting | Politics | Reuters[/url]

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[QUOTE=70Chip;441844]Has Jeremiah Wright recognized Israel's right to exist yet?[/QUOTE]

Should that even matter? It's not as though Reverend Wright is running for office and Obama has made clear that Israel does in fact have the right to exist.

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It's important to me that The President be comitted to Israel. I think Obama could take it or leave it. Totally unacceptable.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;441871]It's important to me that The President be comitted to Israel. I think Obama could take it or leave it. Totally unacceptable.[/QUOTE]

Do you really think Obama would abandon the Israelis? I can't imagine that he ever would or would ever want to and have seen nothing that makes me think otherwise. To do so would be political suicide and Obama knows it.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;441875]Do you really think Obama would abandon the Israelis? I can't imagine that he ever would or would ever want to and have seen nothing that makes me think otherwise. To do so would be political suicide and Obama knows it.[/quote]

Perhaps you're right, buy by the same token if he wasn't comitted to defending them he wouldn't tell us. And I believe that fight is coming. I don't think most Americans appreciate the depth of the anti-semitism that Arabs feel. At the recent talks that were held in Washington the Jews had to use the service entrance because The Saudis didn't want to walk through the same door as them. The Arabs are waiting patiently for an opportunity to attack again.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;441879]Perhaps you're right, buy by the same token if he wasn't comitted to defending them he wouldn't tell us. And I believe that fight is coming. I don't think most Americans appreciate the depth of the anti-semitism that Arabs feel. At the recent talks that were held in Washington the Jews had to use the service entrance because The Saudis didn't want to walk through the same door as them. The Arabs are waiting patiently for an opportunity to attack again.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be too worried about Israel. First, the Israelis have the best military in the Middle East. Second, the last time other countr[U]ies[/U] tried to invade Israel they got their asses handed to them. Third, unlike last time, the Israelis have nukes. They're fine. They don't need our military assistance.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;441885]I wouldn't be too worried about Israel. First, the Israelis have the best military in the Middle East. Second, the last time other countr[U]ies[/U] tried to invade Israel they got their asses handed to them. Third, unlike last time, the Israelis have nukes. They're fine. They don't need our military assistance.[/quote]

This reasoning assumes no nukes on the part of their enemies. Only we can guarantee a a devestating response to a detonated nuke inside Israel. That's why we are a necesaary part of the equation.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;441890]This reasoning assumes no nukes on the part of their enemies. Only we can guarantee a a devestating response to a detonated nuke inside Israel. That's why we are a necesaary part of the equation.[/QUOTE]

I don't really think Israel has to worry too much about nukes. No Arab nation is dumb enough to nuke Israel. They know what would happen to them if they did; either the U.S. or the Israelis would turn that country's sand into glass. If you're worried about terrorists getting their hands on nukes, there's not much the President can do about that. If terrorists are determined to nuke Israel, do you think they will actually be deterred by threats of retaliation? Finally, do you think any Muslim would actually nuke Israel when so many Muslim holy sites are located inside Israel? Again, I think the Israelis can handle their own affairs and, in any case, I doubt any U.S. President will ever abandon them.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;441903]I don't really think Israel has to worry too much about nukes. No Arab nation is dumb enough to nuke Israel. They know what would happen to them if they did; either the U.S. or the Israelis would turn that country's sand into glass. If you're worried about terrorists getting their hands on nukes, there's not much the President can do about that. If terrorists are determined to nuke Israel, do you think they will actually be deterred by threats of retaliation? Finally, do you think any Muslim would actually nuke Israel when so many Muslim holy sites are located inside Israel? Again, I think the Israelis can handle their own affairs and, in any case, I doubt any U.S. President will ever abandon them.[/quote]

It would be less important to me that they perceived deterrence than that a response took place, for all the others to see. Any nation or group that uses these weapons has to be obliterated for the sake of the future.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;441910]It would be less important to me that they perceived deterrence than that a response took place, for all the others to see. Any nation or group that uses these weapons has to be obliterated for the sake of the future.[/QUOTE]

Does that mean we need to be obliterated? :( Seriously though, I think the world knows what would happen if someone used a nuke on us or Israel.

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Our detonation was a benevolent detonation...it saved lives. Besides, in wars somebody has got to die, might as well be them...right?

You lot talk of Israel as if it's a wonderful country. This is your tax dollars at work:

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Speaking for myself, I don't think I addressed whether we should or should not support Israel.

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[quote=70Chip;441844]Has Jeremiah Wright recognized Israel's right to exist yet?[/quote]

What the hell is that supposed to me? Do you really want to go there?

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;441903]I don't really think Israel has to worry too much about nukes. No Arab nation is dumb enough to nuke Israel. They know what would happen to them if they did; either the U.S. or the Israelis would turn that country's sand into glass. If you're worried about terrorists getting their hands on nukes, there's not much the President can do about that. If terrorists are determined to nuke Israel, do you think they will actually be deterred by threats of retaliation? Finally, do you think any Muslim would actually nuke Israel when so many Muslim holy sites are located inside Israel? Again, I think the Israelis can handle their own affairs and, in any case, I doubt any U.S. President will ever abandon them.[/quote]
Well your arguement about Muslims not attacking because of holy sitea has been blown out the window in Iraq. They don't care as we have seen in Iraq.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;441976]What the hell is that supposed to me? Do you really want to go there?[/QUOTE]

You should have ignored it

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[quote=firstdown;441977]Well your arguement about Muslims not attacking because of holy sitea has been blown out the window in Iraq. They don't care as we have seen in Iraq.[/quote]

Unfortunately not all holy sites are equal. The Ka'ba in Mecca and and Al Aqsa Mosque in Palestine are the holiest of them all for all Muslims.