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Dirtbag59 04-21-2008 07:07 PM

RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
[B]Finally, looks like JLC's back to his old self again. (This text should be smaller)[/B]

[B][SIZE=4]Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling[/SIZE][/B]

Really gotta be fast on this one - puck about to drop - but making more calls and two names to watch this weekend for the Skins are WR Malcolm Kelly and DE Phillip Merling, team sources said. The team was finalizing trips to Oklahoma and Clemson, respectively, to meet the players one more time before the draft, likely the final visits with players before the draft this weekend.

Kelly bears particular attention. The Skins already brought him in for a visit recently and went out to Oklahoma for his workout. Now, they're going back again. It's looking more and more obvious that their dream scenario, where a tackle like Williams or Albert slips to 21, is out the window. And the ability to trade down out of the pick is largely out of their control, and there might not be a team willing to give up enough to trade up. So they might be stuck making a pick.

Kelly ran a slow time during his workout in Oklahoma, and the Skins no doubt would like to see that improved upon this week. He lashed out at Oklahoma staff and trainers for their handling of his recent injuries and pouted that his low 40-yard time was due to a change of surface. His attitude led him to slip down some draft boards, but the kid is also a playmaker with some talent. He is leading the group of receivers Washington might end up considering at 21, but, again, they'd prefer to pick from this bunch somewhere in the second round instead.

The fact they are going back to see Kelly again was telling to many within the organization. If Kelly was off the board - or slips in the eyes of the Skins at this next meeting - Limas Sweed of Texas and Jordy Nelson of Kansas State are also high on Washington's receiver board, sources said, and either would be a candidate to be selected (Nelson recently visited Redskins Park and came away making a very strong impression, team sources said.

As for Merling, the team's attention has turned away from DT - which Greg Blache considered to be a strong position of need - to DE in recent days, again due to factors beyond the club's control. There is a huge drop-off after the top 3-4 DTs go in the top 10 picks. It's a stretch to take one in the top two rounds for the most part where the Skins pick, though the Skins will likely look hard at Marcus Harrison (Arkansas) around the third round if he's out there.

Merling rates higher than Miami DE Calais Campbell at this point with the Skins, sources said, but again things can change post-workout and as the draft gets closer. Merling slid down some boards after requiring sports hernia surgery, but like Kelly he is a junior with a lot of upside.

SmootSmack 04-21-2008 07:26 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
Good stuff. I think what the Redskins are really hoping for would be to fall into the top of the 2nd round and be able to draft something like Jackson and Sweed, take a corner late 2nd and then two offensive linemen in the 3rd.

But, as mentioned, it's not going to be easy for them to trade down. I just hope they don't offer too much in an attempted trade down.

Meks 04-21-2008 07:36 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
glad Nelson made a great impression, im all about drafting jordy if hes there in the 2nd

Dirtbag59 04-21-2008 07:39 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
Either way the draft board just got a lot more complicated.

81+83+84=Posse 04-21-2008 10:37 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
He got real pissy there for a bit. Way to much non-football stuff in his blog lately.

SouperMeister 04-22-2008 08:35 AM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
I still say that we must go D-line in the first round and roll the dice that one of the WRs that we like slips.

Schneed10 04-22-2008 08:42 AM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
[quote=SouperMeister;441309]I still say that we must go D-line in the first round and roll the dice that one of the WRs that we like slips.[/quote]

This strategy would be pretty smart, provided the right d-lineman is there for us when we pick. Sticking at 21 and ending up with Merling at least gives you a chance to have a major pass rusher. Trading down, while sensible for filling depth, usually means you miss out on the major pass rushing talent. Of all the gems that can be unearthed later in drafts, pass rushers are the ones that are the hardest to find. Once you get past the first round, it gets very difficult to find a strong pass rusher who can also hold up against the run. This draft figures to be no different, Merling has that upside, but there are questions on guys like Calais Campbell, and after him there's not much in the way of pass rushing threats.

FRPLG 04-22-2008 09:23 AM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
I gotta agree. I think we really need long term answers on both of our lines. I believe we can definitely find quality players for the o-line in rounds 2-3 but a good DLineman will be tougher. I guess ultimately we just need to take the best player available that we need at 21 or try and trade down reasonably. Trading down is tough to achieve but it is worth a shot. I keep hoping Albert gets busted for pot in the next few days and slips to us. I'd do a jig. Draft that pot head!

That Guy 04-22-2008 04:24 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
no dts in round 2? if laws is there with our 2nd pick, you cant pass on him, though that's less likely now. ideally harvey slips, but that's just about impossible now. we really need to pick 17, not 21, to have a shot at premium talent this year.

SkinsFanSince91 04-22-2008 04:40 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;441193][B][SIZE=2]Finally, looks like JLC's back to his old self again.[/SIZE][/B]

[B]Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling[/B]



The fact they are going back to see Kelly again was telling to many within the organization. If Kelly was off the board - or slips in the eyes of the Skins at this next meeting - Limas Sweed of Texas and [B][U]Jordy Nelson of Kansas State [/U][/B]are also high on Washington's receiver board, sources said, and either would be a candidate to be selected [B][U](Nelson recently visited Redskins Park and came away making a very strong impression, team sources said.[/U][/B]

.[/QUOTE]

Sweet!

Dirtbag59 04-22-2008 04:51 PM

Re: RI: Malcolm Kelly and Phillip Merling
 
[quote=SkinsFanSince91;441607]Sweet![/quote]

Lol, I was about to say. Of all the people that should see this, you would be on top of the list, I was starting to think that you were taking off.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 04-24-2008 10:13 PM

Malcolm Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
I have to admit at first I wanted Merling but I think that Kelly will be gone before we pick with our second round pick. If these highlights don't get you amped up nothing will. This guy is the truth and does not drop passes.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9W7nTi4JFQ&NR=1"]YouTube - Malcolm Kelly[/URL]

Skinny Tee 04-24-2008 10:18 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
I don't like the guy. Especially with the first.

A lot of mocks have Devin Thomas available at our pick. I like him over Kelly. He is more atheltic but two inches shorter.

steveo395 04-24-2008 10:50 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
Everybody looks good in highlights. Thats why they call them highlights... but I wouldn't be mad if we drafted him.

SmootSmack 04-24-2008 10:55 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
I think Thomas is going to either Tampa or Philly

Anyhow, don't you think when someone starts a thread advocating a player they really want to draft that they should at least spell his first name right?

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-24-2008 10:56 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;442654]I think Thomas is going to either Tampa or Philly

Anyhow, don't you think when someone starts a thread advocating a player they really want to draft that they should at least spell his first name right?[/QUOTE]

that's what you get when you let your heart win

skinsfan_nn 04-24-2008 10:57 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;442654]I think Thomas is going to either Tampa or Philly

Anyhow, don't you think when someone starts a thread advocating a player they really want to draft that they should at least spell his first name right?[/quote]


Good catch, theres already a Malcolm Kelly thread in the Draft forum.......

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/nfl-draft-central/23250-ri-malcolm-kelly-and-phillip-merling.html?highlight=kelly[/url]

SmootSmack 04-24-2008 11:00 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
Yeah I'm tempted to lock this

SC Skins Fan 04-24-2008 11:02 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;442654]I think Thomas is going to either Tampa or Philly

Anyhow, don't you think when someone starts a thread advocating a player they really want to draft that they should at least spell his first name right?[/quote]

When I saw the spelling I thought the thread was going to be devoted to bashing Kelly for his "me" first attitude. Alas, what I thought was clever word play was only a spelling error.

Skinny Tee 04-24-2008 11:04 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;442658]Yeah I'm tempted to lock this[/quote]

Considering half the posts have been about the spelling of the title that's probably going to be a good idea.

SC Skins Fan 04-24-2008 11:06 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;442661]Considering half the posts have been about the spelling of the title that's probably going to be a good idea.[/quote]

:postcop:

Adding to the nonsense and thus hastening the lock-down ...

Dirtbag59 04-24-2008 11:10 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
I mean this is the kind of thread you would see on ES. You have a lot of threads about a topic, but someone always seems to start a new thread in hopes of spinning a topic in a new direction. Unfortuantely it leads to clutter and sadly most of those threads follow this format, which rarely leads to an interesting discussion. In the end most topics are better off being discussed in detail in one main thread and then discussed in slightly less detail on another thread. For example the inital post in this thread would have fit well in the Day 1 thread.

Anyway next thing you know people start Malcolm Kelly threads of their own like

[I]Why we shouldn't draft Malcolm Kelly[/I]

[I]Is Malcolm Kelly like Rod Gardner[/I]

[I]Should we draft Malcolm Kelly in the 1st[/I]

[I]The Malcolm Kelly FC[/I]

[I]Is Malcolm Kelly a Good Route Runner[/I]

[I]Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas?[/I]

[I]Jordy Nelson or Malcolm Kelly?[/I]

[I]Malcolm Kelly or Lavar?[/I]

Honestly this is pretty much how ES operates and usually a bunch of new threads on the same topic is a great way to start a flame war. I mean for God sakes the Mod's over at ES had to merge the freaking Chad Johnson debacle 4 times and on top of that they had to merge another 3 threads bitching about the front office. Inevitably most of those new threads led to flaming in some way shape or form, but then again who knows. Maybe ES is to big to control.

Ruhskins 04-25-2008 02:16 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;442658]Yeah I'm tempted to lock this[/QUOTE]

Haven't seen you lock any threads lately SS.

That Guy 04-25-2008 05:34 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
even his highlights make him look like he's playing tight end.

dude's slow, and he won't produce as well against nfl dbs.

hagams 04-25-2008 07:55 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=Ruhskins;442695]Haven't seen you lock any threads lately SS.[/quote]


I think he lost his touch:)

KLHJ2 04-25-2008 08:40 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;442658]Yeah I'm tempted to lock this[/quote]

You don't have the balls to lock this. You just let posters walk all over you. [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon7.gif[/IMG]

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-25-2008 09:25 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
Smooty you might have lost your stranglehold on the congregation LOL

bertoskins2 04-25-2008 09:26 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
limas sweed played better competition in college. both has the same set of skills, we don't really need speed right now what we need is a wr that can win jump balls and fight through trafic. yes a wr in a TE body will do. we already have speed with moss and ARE. kelly, limas or jordy is fine with me.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-25-2008 09:29 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[QUOTE=bertoskins2;442717]limas sweed played better competition in college. both has the same set of skills, we don't really need speed right now what we need is a wr that can win jump balls and fight through trafic. yes a wr in a TE body will do. we already have speed with moss and ARE. kelly, limas or jordy is fine with me.[/QUOTE]

you do know that sweed and kelly both played in the big 12 right?

RedskinPete 04-25-2008 09:31 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
I don't know about Kelly with the first pick....what about the best player on the board when you pick? You can't tell me he is the best!!!!! He may be the best WR...maybe but not the best on the board at 21!

SmootSmack 04-25-2008 09:53 AM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
I'm locking every thread!!

Seriously though, merging with the RI: Malcolm and Merling thread

Dirtbag59 04-25-2008 04:15 PM

Re: Malcolme Kelly-Our Big Receiver!!
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;442721]you do know that sweed and kelly both played in the big 12 right?[/quote]

Sweed did horrible against good competition. His only claim to fame seems to be he caught a couple of TD's in big games, but so did McCants when he was with the Redskins. However whenever a team like Rice or Baylor came along the guy dominated. I'm not going to go ape if we draft him, but maybe thats because I think that theres no chance the team goes after him due to their interest in Kelly and Nelson.


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