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MTK 04-27-2008 01:10 PM

Justin Tryon profile
 
[B][url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/justin-tryon?id=2321]NFL Events: Draft Player Profiles - Justin Tryon[/url]

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[/B] Justin Tryon ([URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-position%7Cpos-cb"]CB[/URL])
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 190
College: [URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college%7Ccollege-45"]Arizona State[/URL]
Conference: [URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-college%7Cconf-pac10"]Pac 10[/URL]
Hometown: Palmdale, CA
High School: Taft
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/justin-tryon?id=2321"]View Combine Page >>[/URL]


[B]
Overview[/B] The former junior college transfer instantly became ASU's top cover cornerback, starting all 26 games during his two seasons with the Sun Devils. He proved to be an effective run support defender who simply loved the challenge of taking on receivers much bigger than him. In 2007, his main pass coverage assignments featured four receivers who stood at least 6-feet-4 and five who were 220 pounds or more.

The 5-9 cornerback allowed the opposition to complete just 31.13 percent of the passes thrown into his area during his final campaign (33-of-106). Tryon was just as capable of covering the top receiver on deep routes, but also excelled in press coverage, rerouting his man away from 54 potential catches, in addition to breaking up or intercepting 19 other throws. He allowed a miniscule 3.74 yards per pass attempt vs. him as a senior.

At Taft High School, Tryon earned second-team All-City honors as a running back, gaining 1,435 yards and scored 21 touchdowns in 2002. He also registered a 96-yard kickoff return vs. Jefferson High. He earned All-American, All-State and All-City accolades in track-and-field as a senior, as he clocked 10.6 seconds in the 100-meters, 21.2 in the 200-meters and 47.25 in the 400-meters (fastest time in the state).

Tryon attended San Joaquin Delta College after graduating from Taft, but did not play football in 2003. He then enrolled at the College of the Canyons in 2004, earning second-team All-Western States Conference honors while starting all 14 games at cornerback. He helped the team capture the 2004 National Championship, the state of California Championship and the Western States Conference Championship.

As a sophomore, Tryon earned second-team All-American accolades. He was selected to the All-State team in addition to earning first-team All-Western States Conference honors. Super Prep rated him the 18th-best player in the junior college ranks.

Tryon was an All-Pac 10 Conference honorable mention in his first season at Arizona State in 2006. He took over right cornerback duties, ranking fourth on the squad with 47 tackles (37 solos), including a sack and 2.5 stops for losses. He recovered two fumbles, broke up seven passes and picked off another. He also averaged 41.2 yards on five kickoff returns.

As a senior, Tryon earned All-American third-team honors from The NFL Draft Report and was an All-Pac 10 Conference second-team choice by the media. Named the team's Most Improved Defensive Player, he started all 13 games at right cornerback, as he ranked fifth on the team with 56 tackles (43 solos).

He caused a fumble and led the team with 16 pass deflections. He also had three interceptions, returning one for a touchdown and returned seven kickoffs for a 23.7-yard average. His total of 19 passes defended ranked 11th in the nation.

[B]Career Notes[/B] In 26 games at right cornerback for Arizona State, Tryon recorded 103 tackles (80 solos) with a 7-yard sack, 3.5 stops for losses of 10 yards, two fumble recoveries and a forced fumble...Deflected 23 passes and intercepted four others for 102 yards (25.5 avg) in returns, including one touchdown...Returned 12 kickoffs for 372 yards (31.0 avg).

[B]Junior College[/B] Tryon attended San Joaquin Delta College after graduating from Taft, but did not play football in 2003...Enrolled at the College of the Canyons in 2004, earning second-team All-Western States Conference honors while starting all 14 games at cornerback for head coach Chuck Lyons...Helped the team capture the 2004 National Championship, the state of California Championship and the Western States Conference Championship...As a sophomore, Tryon earned second-team All-American accolades in 2005...Selected to the All-State team in addition to earning first-team All-Western States Conference honors... Super Prep rated him the 18th-best player in the junior college ranks.

[B]High School[/B] Attended Taft (Woodland Hills, Calif.) High School, playing football for head coach Troy Starr...Earned second-team All-City honors as a running back, gaining 1,435 yards and scored 21 touchdowns in 2002...Also registered a 96-yard kickoff return vs. Jefferson High...Earned All-American, All-State and All-City accolades in track-and-field as a senior, as he clocked 10.6 in the 100-meters, 21.2 in the 200-meters and 47.25 in the 400-meters (fastest time in the state).

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MTK 04-27-2008 01:12 PM

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Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame, but shows good muscle tone and has room to add at least another 10 pounds of bulk without having it affect his impressive timed speed...Is much quicker reading routes than recognizing run plays, showing good urgency closing on the ball...Rare to see him get taken out of position when playing in man coverage...Shows good foot quickness and flexibility, demonstrating the acceleration and second gear to get back on the route when a receiver gets behind him...Has enough of a hand punch to generate good press coverage, but also has the balance and change of direction agility to play in off coverage...Can stay on the hip and run with most receivers...Comes out of his breaks with good suddenness, opening his hips smoothly coming out of his backpedal...Rare to see him take any false steps in transition, showing good weight distribution and loose hips to turn and go after the thrown pass...Can even be effective using a shuffle-and-bail technique...Has a good feel for the routes developing, playing his man tight while showing proper body adjustments on the move...Got better breaks on the ball as a senior than he did in the past, but gets into trouble when he eyeballs the backfield too long...Has the speed and burst to make plays at the opposite side of the field and takes good angles to close...Can cover a lot of ground with his sudden burst...Adjusting to runners in support is a concern, as he struggles to play off blocks, but has good wrap-up technique to hang on to the ballcarrier until help arrives...Gets himself into position to make plays on the ball, but does not show natural hands (will trap) and must improve his timing when elevating for the ball...Lacks the sand in his pants to be an impact tackler, but shows willingness coming inside the box on run plays...Good second effort tackler (more of a pester type), who might bounce off a few bigger receivers, but he will not hesitate to face up or attempt to drag down when working in space...Not used often as a kickoff returner, but has that explosive burst and good ball security to get big yardage when running back the ball...Even though he lacks natural hands for the interception, he is good at reaching around and knocking balls out of the hands of the receiver...Ballcarriers have had good success running over him, so he has now developed good cut tackling skills, getting low in his pads to attack the opponent's feet.

Negatives: Has a lean frame that will need to carry more bulk to compete vs. the physicality of the pro game...Good program performer, but needs structure in the offseason and must develop better training habits...Generally quiet player off the field, but does get a bit too cocky and vocal on the field, leading to unnecessary penalties...Has excellent leaping ability, but needs to time his jumps better, as he is too inconsistent getting to the pass at its high point...Struggles to retain plays and digest a complicated playbook, needing more than a few reps to understand his assignment...Good wrap-up tackler, but shows little to no pop behind his hits, which sees bigger backs easily bounce off his tackles...Will bite on play-action, but has shown improvement in not being fooled by a receiver's double moves...Easily engulfed when trying to lend run support at the line, as he lacks the hand technique or power to shed...Aggressive cut tackler, but does not have the strength to just drag down the ballcarrier...Traps the ball rather than extending to pluck outside his frame and this has resulted in at least a half dozen of potential interceptions becoming merely pass deflections in 2007...Needs to show better work ethic in his approach to classroom and playbook study (not a student of the game).

Compares To: TYE HILL-St. Louis...Like Hill, Tryon plays much bigger than his size indicates. He has very good speed to mirror the receiver throughout the route and has a smooth backpedal, coming out of his breaks with good explosion. If he can ever develop better timing and better hands, he could be a dominant pass thief. He is a bit too cocky at times, sort of like Fred Smoot, and this leads to unnecessary penalties, but he has had good success taking on receivers that tower over or out-weigh him considerably with relatively good success.

Injury Report

No injuries reported.

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MTK 04-27-2008 01:12 PM

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Growing up, who was your favorite NFL player and why?
Deion Sanders. Just the way he takes half the field away.

In college, what player hit you the hardest? Who was the recipient of your best hit?
It was some lineman from OSU after an INT that I had.

What TV-show marathon will keep you on the couch all day?
Animal Planet.

What are the five most-played songs in your iPod? What's the one song you hope nobody ever finds out is in your iPod?
I like all music. Lil Bow Wow.

What celebrity would play you in the movie version of your life and why?
No one could!

What is one thing your teammates don't know about you?
I can be shy at times.

What reality TV show would you like to be on and why?
Dancing with the Stars. It looks like a good time.

What's your proudest moment in football? Proudest moment off the field?
Running out of the field the first ASU home game; Christmas with the family.

When you play Madden, what team do you use? Do you put yourself on the team?
I use the Dallas Cowboys. That's my favorite team.

Who has been the biggest influence on your football career and how?
My brothers. They have always pushed me to do better.

T.O.Killa 04-27-2008 01:17 PM

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I hate this pick

Smooter 04-27-2008 01:17 PM

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Damn, that Cowboys shit stops here!

Cowell 04-27-2008 01:17 PM

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5'9?? You have to be kidding, there is no way this guy is going to be able to make an impact in this league matching up against receivers that are 6'2-'3.

Dirtbag59 04-27-2008 01:18 PM

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[URL]http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/justintryon.html[/URL]

The Draft Guys are very high on him (Video at the bottom of the profile. From what I'm reading he could end up being a steal). I still can't believe how many QB's are available. It'll be interesting to see if Henderson is avaialble to in round 5.

Also can't believe that Steve Justice is available.

MTK 04-27-2008 01:18 PM

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[quote=Cowell;444369]5'9?? You have to be kidding, there is no way this guy is going to be able to make an impact in this league matching up against receivers that are 6'2-'3.[/quote]

Darrell Green did alright.

Not saying he's the next DG, just saying a small DB can play with the big boys.

DiehardSkin88 04-27-2008 01:19 PM

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Sooo... Dallas is his favorite team? That needs to change reaaaal quick if he wants to be a redskin!

Cowell 04-27-2008 01:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;444372]Darrell Green did alright.

Not saying he's the next DG, just saying a small DB can play with the big boys.[/QUOTE]

I knew the DG comparison was coming. Honestly though, 5'9 is way too small for a corner. He needs at least 2 more inches to be an impact in this league now.

chrisl13 04-27-2008 01:21 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;444354]Growing up, who was your favorite NFL player and why?
Deion Sanders. Just the way he takes half the field away.

In college, what player hit you the hardest? Who was the recipient of your best hit?
It was some lineman from OSU after an INT that I had.

What TV-show marathon will keep you on the couch all day?
Animal Planet.

What are the five most-played songs in your iPod? What's the one song you hope nobody ever finds out is in your iPod?
I like all music. Lil Bow Wow.

What celebrity would play you in the movie version of your life and why?
No one could!

What is one thing your teammates don't know about you?
I can be shy at times.

What reality TV show would you like to be on and why?
Dancing with the Stars. It looks like a good time.

What's your proudest moment in football? Proudest moment off the field?
Running out of the field the first ASU home game; Christmas with the family.

When you play Madden, what team do you use? Do you put yourself on the team?
[B]I use the Dallas Cowboys. That's my favorite team.[/B]

Who has been the biggest influence on your football career and how?
My brothers. They have always pushed me to do better.[/quote]

he like the Cowboys, what a coincidence.
But really I like the fact that the FO finally went defense. Tryon seems like a good cover corner from what I've read and he'll be a pretty good nickelback and step in and do a good job. There's no telling when Rogers will be back so drafting a CB in one of these rounds was a neccesity

HOGTIMUS PRIME 04-27-2008 01:21 PM

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;444366]I hate this pick[/QUOTE]

I would have loved to see us have drafted OT out of Nebraska Carl Nicks with that pick. Or even Frank Okam out of Texas.

MTK 04-27-2008 01:22 PM

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[quote=Cowell;444375]I knew the DG comparison was coming. Honestly though, 5'9 is way too small for a corner. He needs at least 2 more inches to be an impact in this league now.[/quote]

As a nickel or dime CB he's likely to play mostly in zone packages and won't be matched up one on one with the bigger WRs.

J.Campbell 04-27-2008 01:23 PM

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Yeah, I beleive Mel said that he would be perfect as a nickle CB

Beemnseven 04-27-2008 01:24 PM

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Probably the best we can hope is for this guy to leapfrog Leigh Torrence, Byron Westbrook,and John Eubanks.

SBXVII 04-27-2008 01:24 PM

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Dallas Cowboys? He better play like Smoot or we will have to ship him to them.

It would be nice to have D.Green coach him up like he did Smoot.

Dirtbag59 04-27-2008 01:25 PM

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[quote=chrisl13;444378]he like the Cowboys, what a coincidence.
But really I like the fact that the FO finally went defense. Tryon seems like a good cover corner from what I've read and he'll be a pretty good nickelback and step in and do a good job. There's no telling when Rogers will be back so drafting a CB in one of these rounds was a neccesity[/quote]

Loyalty tends to change hands in a situation like this. The guy wants to play in the NFL and the Redskins are giving him a pretty good shot to contribute. In turn he'll be loyal to the team.

Remember Shawn Springs probably grew up as a Cowboys fan.

I like the pick though. It's a typical late round Redskins pick, a guy who was productive with a lot of talent, but still has some warts (size).

T.O.Killa 04-27-2008 01:25 PM

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It says he runs a 4.5 40. Small and slow. Instead of taking Dre Moore, with our original pick, we do this? This guy was projected to be a 7th rounder or a free agent.
[URL]http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/justintryon.html[/URL]

HOGTIMUS PRIME 04-27-2008 01:27 PM

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Here's a good video breakdown of Tryon




[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tw_-Q7Asa0]YouTube - Draftguys TV: Profile - Justin Tryon - CB[/url]

MTK 04-27-2008 01:28 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;444387]It says he runs a 4.5 40. Small and slow. Instead of taking Dre Moore, with our original pick, we do this?[/quote]

Scouts Inc has him at a 4.4

GTripp0012 04-27-2008 01:29 PM

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For what we need at Corner, he's a good pick.

He's not the be all end all here by any stretch of the imagination, we will need to fill Springs' shoes next season, but I'm OK with Tryon at nickel until Rogers can get healthy.

Slingin Sammy 33 04-27-2008 01:31 PM

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[quote=Cowell;444375]I knew the DG comparison was coming. Honestly though, 5'9 is way too small for a corner. He needs at least 2 more inches to be an impact in this league now.[/quote]
The PAC-10 doesn't have any receivers over 6'.....did you read the analysis:

The former junior college transfer instantly became ASU's top cover cornerback, starting all 26 games during his two seasons with the Sun Devils. He proved to be an effective run support defender who simply loved the challenge of taking on receivers much bigger than him. In 2007, his main pass coverage assignments featured four receivers who stood at least 6-feet-4 and five who were 220 pounds or more.

The 5-9 cornerback allowed the opposition to complete just 31.13 percent of the passes thrown into his area during his final campaign (33-of-106). Tryon was just as capable of covering the top receiver on deep routes, but also excelled in press coverage, rerouting his man away from 54 potential catches, in addition to breaking up or intercepting 19 other throws. He allowed a miniscule 3.74 yards per pass attempt vs. him as a senior.

I like the pick, fills a major need IMO. Kid looks like he has excellent potential.

Cowell 04-27-2008 01:32 PM

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[QUOTE=HOGTIMUS PRIME;444390]Here's a good video breakdown of Tryon




[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tw_-Q7Asa0]YouTube - Draftguys TV: Profile - Justin Tryon - CB[/url][/QUOTE]

That was a good breakdown. He seems to be a little better than I thought, but I still believe we reached a little for him, we probably could have easily gotten him in the 5th or 6th.

SBXVII 04-27-2008 01:34 PM

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Westbrook was not that bad and I expect him to look even better this yr. I think the 3; Torrence, Westbrook, and Eubanks will have to step it up this yr.

Slingin Sammy 33 04-27-2008 01:34 PM

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[quote=Cowell;444399]That was a good breakdown. He seems to be a little better than I thought, but I still believe we reached a little for him, we probably could have easily gotten him in the 5th or 6th.[/quote]
I'll bet watching Laws and Harrison go right before our picks had something to do with getting him here.

WaldSkins 04-27-2008 02:20 PM

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im still waiting on Marcus Dixon

jamf 04-27-2008 02:28 PM

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I like the pick. He reminds me of darrent williams.

SBXVII 04-27-2008 02:30 PM

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Dixon? ...Have you read Pro-Footballs take on him? My mag said character issues, so I went to the Pro Prospects Review. They don't paint a pretty picture of him.

T.O.Killa 04-27-2008 02:30 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;444366]I hate this pick[/quote]
I am liking this pick alot more now that I researched it a little.
[url=http://www.tfydraft.com/news.php?newsID=87]TFY[/url]
[url=http://www.kffl.com/player/18788/NFL]KFFL - Justin Tryon, CB, NFL Draft Prospect[/url]

81toHOF 04-27-2008 02:32 PM

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any good woman will tell you size doesn't matter. it's how you work w/what you have. ansante samuel is 5'10", 185. duanta robinson is 5'10", 175.

EXoffender 04-27-2008 06:30 PM

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[quote=Cowell;444369]5'9?? You have to be kidding, there is no way this guy is going to be able to make an impact in this league matching up against receivers that are 6'2-'3.[/quote]You think all NFL WRs are 6'2"+? I guess you wanted 5'9" Brandon Flowers?

Or maybe we should've went after 5'9" 1/2 Asante Samuel...

Soup's Uncle 04-27-2008 07:12 PM

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Yeah, this guys also has a big mouth. Hopefully he backs it up. I love having guys with attitude that like to play. This guys says he'llg et us to the 50 in returns consistenly. Let's hope he cna do that.

djnemo65 04-27-2008 07:24 PM

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;444464]I am liking this pick alot more now that I researched it a little.
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This quote made me laugh out loud.

RMSkins 04-27-2008 07:37 PM

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Tryon is a good fit for our defensive scheme as a Nickel CB, hopefully he can develop into a #3 or #2 CB down the road. The only problem I have with this pick is that I think we reached for him, we probably could have got him in later rounds.

That Guy 04-27-2008 07:40 PM

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would have prefered tony hills. he's good depth, but i don't think he'll be a starter... ever.

MTK 04-27-2008 07:55 PM

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[quote=djnemo65;444801]This quote made me laugh out loud.[/quote]

kinda makes you want to bang your head against the wall huh

Rajmahal33 04-27-2008 08:40 PM

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I think the Ellis Hobbs comparison is more accurate. I really like his closing speed and desire to make the play (which u can't coach) and his negatives of not readily recognizing routes and grasping assignments can be treated with good coaching at the pro level. After watching his film, I think I like him a lot.

Besides, u can't blame the FO for not "Tryon" on this kid! haha...sorry I had to do it

Cowell 04-27-2008 08:42 PM

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[QUOTE=EXoffender;444723]You think all NFL WRs are 6'2"+? I guess you wanted 5'9" Brandon Flowers?

Or maybe we should've went after 5'9" 1/2 Asante Samuel...[/QUOTE]

Alright but Asante Samuel is an exception, and no while not all receivers 6'2 + a lot of them are a good few inches taller than 5'9, immediately giving them the advantage when the ball is in the air.

Redskin Warrior 04-27-2008 08:44 PM

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Blache will bring the best out of this kid

djnemo65 04-27-2008 11:41 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;444848]kinda makes you want to bang your head against the wall huh[/QUOTE]

The irrational negativity on here has been suprising to me, even though it probably shouldn't be. I taped the draft since it came on so late over here, watched it late, and accordingly logged on here after the bullets had already started flying. What I thought was slam dunk first day for us (getting two players we wanted for the price of one, getting arguably the best TE in the draft, and getting them all cheap) was being slammed. Then I log on today to see people crushing guys they have never even heard of!!

And what is this need stuff? The draft more than anything else is for depth. People act like a starting TE has never gotten hurt in the history of the league. Where would the Giants have been without rookie Kevin Boss last year?


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