Cedric Benson arrested (and now released)
 

Boating while intoxicated in Austin Texas. On boat with 12-15 others, he was the only one arrested.

Will find a solid source soon, current source is NFL radio.

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[url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/931248,benson050408.article]Cedric Benson arrested in Texas :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bears[/url]

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I'm guessing he was the owner of the boat, or he was driving the boat. I've seen those police beach shows where they guard the beach and the waters and usually they only arrest the guy driving the boat if he's drunk.

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I know a guy that was sitting in a boat and got a DUI. My main problem with it, was his boat was parked in his driveway. Hard to drive a boat on the highway.

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[quote=Daseal;446683]I know a guy that was sitting in a boat and got a DUI. My main problem with it, was his boat was parked in his driveway. Hard to drive a boat on the highway.[/quote]

He got a DUI because he was drunk on his boat in his driveway? I gotta say that doesn't make much sense, if he wasn't driving the boat how could they legally give him a DUI? If you are drunk on your boat on your own property then they shouldn't be able to give you that lol.

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One of my friends got charged with a dui while riding a bicycle drunk... another one was just sitting in his car looking for some cds and he got charged too

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Yeah you can pretty much get a DUI if you are drunk and driving/riding anything. I was watching Most Shocking a couple days ago and they showed these 2 cops chasing a drunk guy on a lawnmower. They were in a slow speed pursuit with him lolol, he was going like 3 mph. The chase ended because he ended up leaning too far over to the left and falling off the lawnmower and then they arrested him and gave him a DUI.

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Because the keys were in the ignition. He was looking at the motor or something similar. I had an underage possession of alcohol and they made me go to a DUI class with other folks. While a majority were typical DUI cases, most of them were people too poor to fight it. The girl that blew a .06 and her blood test showed .01 -- DUI. The guy who was mowing his lawn with a beer. You know that you're on state property within 10 feet of the highway? Got a DUI mowing his yard.

Let's stop kidding ourselves. The police's job has turned from concentrating on safety and protection and moved to making money. The problem is so many laws are ambiguous. There's no 'law' that says .08 or over and you're drunk. It's a suggestion, you can be charged for DUI whenever if the cop wants to, and it's all about if you have the financial means to fight such a charge. The boat thing IS very rare, but it can happen.

Oddly enough, I did my paper for VASAP about what a terrible organization MADD is and the teacher praised me for it. MADD lies horribly in their statistics (if you get in an accident on the way home from the grocery store with a 6 pack of beer in your trunk, that's alcohol related accident in their opinion), the person who founded MADD left because of how they bastardized her ideas, etc.
[this information all from VASAP]

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Ah if the keys were in the ignition then I can understand how he got it. N yeah I definitely agree about the police motives, it's not as much about protecting as it is about making money for the state. And even though the laws are ambigious things aren't going to change, they just are probably going to get even more ambigious so that cops can charge anyone with anything that loosely looks like breaking the law. And I had no idea about Madd and their statistics, that's something to keep in mind.

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Still, keys in the ignition -- where's he going? Common sense has left law.

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If you can't get drunk on your own boat where can you get drunk?

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[quote=Daseal;446688]Because the keys were in the ignition. He was looking at the motor or something similar. I had an underage possession of alcohol and they made me go to a DUI class with other folks. While a majority were typical DUI cases, most of them were people too poor to fight it. The girl that blew a .06 and her blood test showed .01 -- DUI. The guy who was mowing his lawn with a beer. You know that you're on state property within 10 feet of the highway? Got a DUI mowing his yard.

Let's stop kidding ourselves. The police's job has turned from concentrating on safety and protection and moved to making money. The problem is so many laws are ambiguous. There's no 'law' that says .08 or over and you're drunk. It's a suggestion, you can be charged for DUI whenever if the cop wants to, and it's all about if you have the financial means to fight such a charge. The boat thing IS very rare, but it can happen.

Oddly enough, I did my paper for VASAP about what a terrible organization MADD is and the teacher praised me for it. MADD lies horribly in their statistics (if you get in an accident on the way home from the grocery store with a 6 pack of beer in your trunk, that's alcohol related accident in their opinion), the person who founded MADD left because of how they bastardized her ideas, etc.
[this information all from VASAP][/quote]


I agree completely, my roommate was making a phone call in front of a party (while being stone-cold sober) and a cop came running at him from the street causing my friend to drop his cup and put his hands up. The cop then charged him with littering... on private property.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3380764]ESPN - Bears' Benson says BWI, resisting arrest charges unfounded - NFL[/url]

[B]Bears' Benson says BWI, resisting arrest charges unfounded[/B]

Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson was charged with boating while intoxicated after failing a sobriety test and resisting arrest that required officers to use pepper spray before dragging him ashore Saturday night, according to police.

If found guilty, Benson faces up to six months in jail and $2,000 for each class B misdemeanor. No court date has been set. In Texas, a BWI charge carries the same weight as a DWI.

The former Texas Longhorn, however, said he was not drunk and did not resist arrest.

"I was not intoxicated," Benson told the Chicago Sun-Times. "There was alcohol on the boat and others were enjoying themselves, but I wasn't drunk."

I wonder if he is telling the truth or not?

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I don't know if he was drunk or not, but if it is as the police say it was then I think the Bears might try and get rid of him soon. He's on the brink of being called a bust and I think they want to cut their losses with him and move on. It doesn't help that supposed reports coming out of the Bears minicamp is that Matt Forte is impressing a lot of people so far.

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Why did the Bears get rid of Thomas Jones agian?

Here's a good artical on the Neo-Madd Moms.

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171383,00.html]FOXNews.com - When Drunk Driving Deterrence Becomes Neo-Prohibition - Blog | Blogs | Popular Blogs | Video Blogs[/url]

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Thomas Jones also had a crappy year in New York. That trade worked out well for Chicago.

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I live here in Austin and there is some stuff coming out that the police may have mishandled this whole thing with some gross negligence. I'm not saying he wasn't drunk, but they used mace on him. Check out the video [URL="http://poststuff5.entensity.net/050508/media.php?media=itch.wmv"]here[/URL] (NSFW).

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[QUOTE=Daseal;446693]Still, keys in the ignition -- where's he going? Common sense has left law.[/QUOTE]

I know it's quite popular to beat up on judges, "runaway juries" and lawyers, but I don't think common sense has left the law. In any case, DUI laws vary from state to state. Whether sitting behind the wheel of a car with the keys in the ignition and alcohol running in your blood constitutes OWI/DWI/DUI depends on state law. Also, there are sound reasons for allowing prosecutors to charge people with OWI/DWI/DUI for just sitting behind the wheel.

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normally i follow up these stories by calling the player in question an idiot, but boating while intoxicated isn't exactly the world's worst crime...

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I don't drink and drive/ride anything(anymore). I was at my friend boot camp graduation party several years ago, and we ran out of beer. We knew we couldn't drive, so we saddled up his moms 2 horses and rode about 1/2 mile to the store. Needless to say, the cops didn't find that very amusing. I don't know about Texas, but in Va. drinking on a boat is pretty serious. He's really lucky it was the police, and not the game warden.
I don't think the police has lost thier common sense though, look at what idiots we live around everyday. They can't afford to give someone that's drunk a break because there's so many deaths due to alcohol everyday on the roads, and several of them on the lakes and rivers.

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[quote]I know it's quite popular to beat up on judges, "runaway juries" and lawyers, but I don't think common sense has left the law. In any case, DUI laws vary from state to state. Whether sitting behind the wheel of a car with the keys in the ignition and alcohol running in your blood constitutes OWI/DWI/DUI depends on state law. Also, there are sound reasons for allowing prosecutors to charge people with OWI/DWI/DUI for just sitting behind the wheel.[/quote]

You do realize we're talking about a boat, on a trailer, in someones driveway -- right?

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[QUOTE=Daseal;447183]You do realize we're talking about a boat, on a trailer, in someones driveway -- right?[/QUOTE]

Ahhh, I went back and read your post. There has to be more to the story. Were your friend's charges dimissed? Absent some strange state law, the police should not have charged him. But, even if the charges were not dismissed and the state law is simply dumb, that sounds like an exceptional case.

People tend to harp on the exceptions, not the rules and to unfairly label the law, lawyers, and judges as dumb. Also, keep in mind that most state legislators who actually write those laws are not lawyers, juries consist of your average Joes and apply "common sense" to the law, and the people who elect legislators and judges are your average Joes. So, when the public talks about how silly the law is, they are usually talking about how silly the public is.

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Apparently a girl who was on the boat has come forward saying Benson was not intoxicated, and was not resisting. She asked her parents to call 911 b/c she was concerned about his safety, and said Benson was unnecessarily pepper sprayed (cops are way to liberal nowadays with pepper spray/tazers), and it was harassment on the part of the police. I guess the girl's fiance took some pictures as well, and said Benson was being beaten and was terrified . This corroborates Benson's account of the story.

Also, I heard on the radio this morning that every single time Benson took his boat out he has been stopped for "safety checks."

Sounds fishy to me. Either Benson is repeatedly reckless with his boat, or someone has it out for him. I know how shady cops can be. I tend to side with Benson on this one as of now. The guy might be a bust and a poor teammate, but I don't think he's been a problem as far as the law is concerned.

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SGG -- As I said -- many of the laws pray on those unable to afford the help, or too dumb to hire a lawyer. Court appointed lawyers either don't care and are poor lawyers.

No doubt it's rare, and the guy probably told the cop to fuck off knowing how he acts. But still -- he's on a boat. I understand keys in the ignition (although if it's winter and you're asleep in the back seat I think that should be looked at a bit different.)

PS -- Whoever put the tag 'gettin his smoot on' for this thread is a god.

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[quote=GTripp0012;446995]Thomas Jones also had a crappy year in New York. That trade worked out well for Chicago.[/quote]

Especially considering they got Matt Forte. I know everyone in Chicago wants a QB, but I think the Bears reasoning is they got to the Super Bowl with a great defense and an offense that controled the clock. With that said they really should have considered a guy like Eric Ainge in the 5th round (not JDB as I don't think he has the arm to survive in a place like Chicago). However I personally thought that Chicago's draft was great from top to bottom, though the fact that they milked every second off the clock with their two consectutive picks in the 7th round (yes I know) pissed me off.

Personally I wonder if theres something to the fact that the franchise GM is considered cheap and the fact that they have a player or two bitching about their contract each offseason. However with that said the guys on NFL Live are right about Urlacher having to choose between a long term deal and a short term deal that lets him hit FA earlier.

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[B]Police Won't Release Audio Tape of Cedric Benson's Arrest[/B]

[URL="http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/bloggers/josh-alper/"][/URL]Posted May 21st 2008 10:50AM by [URL="http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/bloggers/josh-alper/"][COLOR=#3952a2]Josh Alper[/COLOR][/URL]
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The Lower Colorado River Authority and Travis County Attorney's Office have announced that they will not release the audio tape of [URL="http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/tag/CedricBenson/"][COLOR=#3952a2]Cedric Benson[/COLOR][/URL]'s arrest on May 3rd. Benson was arrested on charges of boating while intoxicated and resisting arrest and has charged that the police mistreated him during the incident.

[URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24753759"][COLOR=#3952a2]KXAN, an Austin television station, issued a request[/COLOR][/URL] for records associated with the case and were told that an audio tape existed. Their request for a copy of it was denied by the county and their denial was reinforced by a ruling from the Texas Attorney General.

Assistant county attorney Daniel Bradford says their decision to withhold this audio "is based on the public's desire to protect the integrity of the county's investigations into and prosecution of crime."

My first reaction to this was thinking the public would also be interested in knowing whether or not the police are treating people badly during arrests. I think there's some questions about integrity that need to be answered there, especially since there was no delay in releasing a police report characterizing Benson as hostile.

If this is going to be used as evidence at a trial, though, I suppose there would be some issues about what potential jurors might hear about the case. I'd think the same thing about the police report, though, and, again, that's public. The next court date is set for June 30th.

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[B]"Either Benson is repeatedly reckless with his boat, or someone has it out for him"[/B]

Yea, the Bears. LOL.

[B]"You do realize we're talking about a boat, on a trailer, in someones driveway -- right?"[/B]

This is America. Anyone can plead guilty to anything. Also, I've found that people who have gotten into trouble don't always tell the whole story in detail. They tend to leave certain pertinant facts out when telling other individuals in order to get the simpathy effect. Trust me. If you were not there and were not in the court room to hear why he was charged then take what he told you at face value even if he is close friend or not.

There are some bad police officers out there no different then any of you probably have bad co-workers also. Don't let one bad apple lable the whole batch.

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i still think this is a stupid thing to arrest someone for.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;447211]Especially considering they got Matt Forte. I know everyone in Chicago wants a QB, but I think the Bears reasoning is they got to the Super Bowl with a great defense and an offense that controled the clock. With that said they really should have considered a guy like Eric Ainge in the 5th round (not JDB as I don't think he has the arm to survive in a place like Chicago). However I personally thought that Chicago's draft was great from top to bottom, though the fact that they milked every second off the clock with their two consectutive picks in the 7th round (yes I know) pissed me off.

Personally I wonder if theres something to the fact that the franchise GM is considered cheap and the fact that they have a player or two bitching about their contract each offseason. However with that said the guys on NFL Live are right about Urlacher having to choose between a long term deal and a short term deal that lets him hit FA earlier.[/quote]From Chicago's perspective, they can worry about a QB later. Teams don't often get a chance to change away from QBs in the middle of a window of dominance -- usually because teams with crappy QBs are hardly dominant.

At this point, it doesn't hurt to stick with Grossman. Sure, you have a guy whose upside looks something like Jon Kitna's career, but Kitna if you remember, took until his 6th and 7th NFL season to shake the crappy young QB label and pick up the savvy veteran label.

Grossman is bound to have a career year this year. Knowing the Bears, they'll misevaluate him and give him a ridiculous extension for one year of good play. But that's the funny thing about 'busts' once they become vets...they stop playing so poorly and start playing inconsistently well.

The Bears are a good bet to take the NFC this year...and it's not really because they know what they are doing. It's because if you keep shoving the round peg into the square hole, eventually, you'll make it fit. It may not look pretty, but it can be a temporary solution. Such will be the next chapter of Grossman's Bears career.

All of that stated, they are still incredibly retarded for passing over a franchise QB in Brohm for Forte. That won't hurt they're championship chase this year. It's going to make them look really horrible when Brohm is beating the crap out of them twice a season from 2010 to 2016.

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Looks like someone can't stay outta trouble

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3430752]ESPN - Bears' Benson arrested, charged in Austin with drunken driving - NFL[/url]

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Thats double trouble......two DUI's in a one month period. I just don't get these guys, nor do they seem to get it....? Whats so hard to figure out about if your going out drinking, get someone or a cab to drive your ass home. Complete stupidity! :doh:

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[quote=Mattyk72;451786]Looks like someone can't stay outta trouble

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3430752"]ESPN - Bears' Benson arrested, charged in Austin with drunken driving - NFL[/URL][/quote]

Oh my god. What a complete and total moron. This just amazes me. I'd like to give him a good firm open-handed slap to the face.

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He's done.

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PFT.com

ANGELO HINTS BENSON’S JOB IN JEOPARDY
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 7, 2008, 2:07 p.m.

Hours after Bears running back Cedric Benson was arrested again, General Manager Jerry Angelo suggested that Benson ought to be concerned about losing his job over the matter.

“There was alcohol involved, that’s all we know,” Angelo said today, per the Chicago Tribune. “We are certainly going to take this seriously. Disappointment is too often-used word when talking about Cedric. The No. 1 lesson of every player is protect your job.”

If the Bears cut Benson (whose mug shot shows him grinning after he was arrested), their fans likely won’t mind: An unscientific poll on the Tribune’s web site shows that nearly 90 percent of respondents want the Bears to cut Benson.

Angelo also characterized the news of Benson’s arrest as “hard to believe’’ and said, “We are certainly going to take this very seriously.”

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ZOMG, if they cut him we should sign him. Vet min [SIZE=5]+ [/SIZE][SIZE=2]incentives. And if he screws up cut him. No big deal. This is low risk high reward. ZOMG[/SIZE]

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Things aren't looking good for Benson at this point. Once all the facts come out I wouldn't be suprised if the Bears cut him.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;451805]ZOMG, if they cut him we should sign him. Vet min [SIZE=5]+ [/SIZE][SIZE=2]incentives. And if he screws up cut him. No big deal. This is low risk high reward. ZOMG[/SIZE][/QUOTE] I don't think you would want him.

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[QUOTE=starzzz;451812]I don't think you would want him.[/QUOTE]

Agreed 110%. I dont want that clown on my team...first of all, he compeltley and utterly sucks at playing at the NFL level, and he's obviously a moron in general. I hope he gets cut and is unemployed.

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I'm the only person in the state of Illinois right now with this opinion but:

1) I don't think CedBen gets cut.

2) I think he has a rebound year at RB for the Bears.

He's still a grade A moron, but stupid people can tote the rock too.

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It's a shame to see pro talent go to waste because there are a lot of atheletes out there that would kill to be in the NFL. CB needs to ask himself did he go through all those years of training and studying to finally make it to the biggest stage of his profession to start acting like this. Good luck homey!