Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 

Favre wants out of Green Bay

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521]ESPN - Favre seeks unconditional release from Packers, sources say - NFL[/url]

Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?

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HELL NO!!!!

Matty, I am ashamed of you for even bringing this up..

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Don't need him

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Who started this thread.......come on, this has to be a joke. Don't we have one almost 38 year old backup?

HELL NO!

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This was an inevitable poll. Sooner or later someone will say "we should sign him to tutor JC, they're both from MS!!!"

With that said, I vote a capital N-O!

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he'd give you one good year, but with a new HC and all, i don't think it'd end in a SB, so there's not much point... we've got a young guy with upside and some proven success, so we might as well not set him back again.

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I want to win. I'm not sold on Campbell. Collins was a # 3 QB with the Skins after I guess being the most tenured backup in NFL history. Brennan is a total unknown at the NFL level. So, who knows what will happen. After the draft, it looks like our passing game could take a real step up. I have decided to give Zorn every benefit of the doubt in his personnel decisions. If he wants Farve we get him, we'll win. If he doesn't want Farve, we can win too. I think Zorn wants to win now and will make tough decisions. He's not the great loyalist (Ie. Joe Gibbs and Brunell); he not just an ole ball coach (Spurrier). I'm supporting Jim Zorn. P.S. At $13 Million/year, we probably can't afford Farve anyway.

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Yez, Bret 4 iz 1337 n dan snyder r splash big. p1uz MikaelJardan r retire n 4 gud n Wazington 4 da assault riffles. JC r not back 2 da future.

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NFL Radio has brought this up a lot. There are a lot of connections that could lead someone to see Favre here. The type of West Coast system we'll be running is one Favre has seen a lot since it's going to basically be just like the Holmgren system.

Secondly, we don't have an entrenched QB. Not only is Jason Campbell still young and fairly unproven. But he's also not Zorn's "guy." While Zorn may like his future, he's not attached to him like coaches that use first round picks on QBs typically are.

Finally, we're a playoff team with a decent amount of talent. Favre will be looking for someone that has a chance.

Anyhow, Im torn on the issue. Favre is better than Jason Campbell, and it is a new offense for the young guy (yet again) letting him get a grasp on the playbook for a year or two. At the same time, I'm kinda ready for the Jason Campbell era. Time to see him sink or swim. If we go after him, I'll support the decision. If we don't, then I won't be upset in the least. Just trying to say, there are many reasons why Favre could at least be rumored to show up in DC.

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While I would never rule anything out with this team, I would put the chances of this happening at slightly above Jordan coming back to the Wizards. While Campbell may not be a Zorn guy, in the sense of being developed or drafted by him, Zorn was brought into the fold initially with the express purpose of developing Campbell. That's why they went with a quarterback guy over someone with perhaps a more established pedigree. Every off season move that has been criticized by the punditry - the run at CJ and the receiver happy draft class - has largely been justified by the brass as an effort to give Campbell what he needs to win, and win now. Thus, while Zorn's mission is of course to win games, it is do to it with Campbell.

Of course there is going to be media speculation linking us to Favre, but that means absolutely nothing in the larger scheme of things. They've linked us to every player who has ever been a free agent ever.

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djnemo -- Drafting WRs doesn't exactly scream win now to me. Typically, it takes 2-3 years to see what you have in a WR. As I said, Im not sure where I really stand on the issue, just trying to say I don't consider it a huge stretch for us to be in the consideration for Favre.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;456327]djnemo -- Drafting WRs doesn't exactly scream win now to me. Typically, it takes 2-3 years to see what you have in a WR. As I said, Im not sure where I really stand on the issue, just trying to say I don't consider it a huge stretch for us to be in the consideration for Favre.[/QUOTE]

It has nothing to do with winning now, my point was that they are building around Campbell, giving him the weapons to succeed as a quarterback. I really don't think the fact that they are sold on Campbell is open to debate, at least not going into this season.

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This is outta control, the whole Farve issue. I am sick of it, it has almost gotten as outta control as the TO situation with Dallas did with the media coverage.

Makes me want to vomit.

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No Way this guy might have a littel in the tank but the skins need to get younger and stay younger!








!HAIL TO THE REDSKINS IN 2008!

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Matty, no! I love you, but...

[SIZE=1]Retarded thread.[/SIZE]
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I think you were probably just trying to get some discussion going on the site, even if it meant starting one that you know will get a resounding no. So I can see starting it up.

People are putting way too much thought into this. The idea that the Skins should go after Brett Favre is laughable.

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isn't anyone going to use the old " vet minimum"?

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What a douche, I've lost all respect for the guy.

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I highly doubt that it would happen, but Rich Tandler at least makes a convincing argument here:

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/35685-is-brett-favre-a-fit-for-the-washington-redskins]Is Brett Favre a Fit for the Washington Redskins? | Bleacher Report[/url]

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Zorn has already made it perfectly clear that JC is going to be the starting QB for the Redskins this year, and for the foreseeable future.

If I'm Jason Campbell, I certainly would not feel comfortable with this type talk surfaceing one week before the start of training camp. Sometime people just get lost for something to talk about. The thought of a very short term Favre would undercut everything the team has been trying to acomplish, and would serve no worthwhile purpose. "Just say no".

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Didn't Farve want tall receivers?

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[quote=Redskins549;456346]Didn't Farve want tall receivers?[/quote]

You might be thinking of Ben Roethlisberger

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Favre's act is so freaking old. Get a hobby old man.

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[quote=Mattyk72;456304]Favre wants out of Green Bay

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521"]ESPN - Favre seeks unconditional release from Packers, sources say - NFL[/URL]

Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?

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Hell no! I'd honestly rather talk about Mark Brunell, Lavar Arrington or Patrick Ramsey then Farve. I can't believe you would even waste time on this subject. But you're a mod and you can do what ever the hell you want.

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Like it or not until the dust settles and he signs with a new team we're going to hear rumors about the Redskins being a possibility. As I said I don't see it happening but I don't think it can be completely ruled out. A few weeks ago some people were convinced that Favre coming back at all was out of the question.

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[quote=saden1;456339]What a douche, I've lost all respect for the guy.[/quote]
Agreed. Enough is enough. The guy has done a great deal for Green Bay, but in the last 2-3 years with the retirement waffling he has been completely unfair to that franchise.

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If Brett Favre came out and says "I want to play for the Washington Redskins," I think this becomes a very interesting story.

I mean, it wouldn't retard Jason Campbell's development at all to sit for half a season or so and slow some things down, but I don't even think its a certainty that Favre would win a QB competition if he came here.

Additionally, he's 39, and the attrition rate for 39 year old QBs is through the roof (or floor, depending on how you picture it). QBs tend to stay pretty good into their late 30's (see: Brunell, Mark), but once 40 years old starts breathing down their neck, their game could fall off the map at any time (see: Brunell, Mark or Testeverde, Vincent).

So, if anyone plays Favre as a starter expecting competency, they are taking a risk that he can keep going like he was able to at age 38 last season. If he wanted to come here, I would certainly listen, but I would not actively chase him.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;456365]If Brett Favre came out and says "I want to play for the Washington Redskins," I think this becomes a very interesting story.
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If the goal is to win the Super Bowl and Favre says he wants to come here, we've got to listen though.

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It's hard not to be tempted by Brett Favre in a Redskins jersey. But it's probably not the right move. I might have thought a little differently had Gibbs still been the coach and together they wanted one last hurrah before walking off into the sunset. But with Zorn it just doesn't make sense. I mean there are no guarantees that Campbell is Zorn's guy, or vice-versa. Maybe Zorn really wants Colt Brennan to be his guy and he's just biding time until he's ready (whenever that may be). But even if that were the case, he would probably just start Todd Collins until such time as Colt or someone else was ready.

I'm rambling now, but long story short the only reason I would make a run at him is to up his value and force another team, another potential WC contender (Minnesota, Tampa, Carolina) to overspend for him.

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Favre's gun slinging tendencies would give Gibbs a heart attack, SS. Statistically, Favre's best season in the NFL was last year. I think the guy has 2-3 years left. I still think MN, Chicago, Tampa, and Carolina have more interest than us, but I think we're intrigued.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;456373]Favre's gun slinging tendencies would give Gibbs a heart attack, SS. Statistically, Favre's best season in the NFL was last year. I think the guy has 2-3 years left. I still think MN, Chicago, Tampa, and Carolina have more interest than us, but I think we're intrigued.[/QUOTE]

He's become less of a gun slinger as he's gotten older. McCarthy did a great job with him in that regard.

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I really hope Danny Boy resists. Didn't he bring in Zorn specifically to help Campbell? Signing (or trading for) Favre won't help. Maybe the Skins win a few more games upfront with #4 but I don't think the Skins are legitimate Superbowl contenders even with Favre. That's exactly why we stay the course with Campbell and let him grow into the role with the players we now have (Moss, Cooley, Randle El, Thomas, Kelly, etc.). It's all about chemistry and continuity and we can't get that if the Oompa Loompa (Snyder) keeps jacking it up with spending and signing just for the sake of making a splash. I've had enough false hope in the Snyder era, it's time for the Skins to get back to being perennial contenders. Danny needs to just sit on his booster seat up in his luxury box and enjoy the games like a fan (with a ton of money!).

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Ok, as a fan of another team may I just say I would love for the Skins to get Farve.Please bring him in ...better yet trade for him really make it a 3 ring circus and lets not forget what it would do to JC to be "benched"..........wait ,did you think Farve would sit on the bench and be a back up?Yes the Skins need him.:rofl:

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[quote=skinsfan69;456357]Hell no! I'd honestly rather talk about Mark Brunell, Lavar Arrington or Patrick Ramsey then Farve. I can't believe you would even waste time on this subject. But you're a mod and you can do what ever the hell you want.[/quote] Favre would be almost impossible to fit under the cap . If he did come here , we would probably look to trade JC , and I doubt the skins would go that route . As far as MB , Ramsey and LA , they are washed up , Favre would give us a shot at a championship if we got some breaks . For one , I hope he stays in GB and JC becomes our best QB since J. Theismann .

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[quote=GTripp0012;456365]If Brett Favre came out and says "I want to play for the Washington Redskins," I think this becomes a very interesting story.

I mean, it wouldn't retard Jason Campbell's development at all to sit for half a season or so and slow some things down, but I don't even think its a certainty that Favre would win a QB competition if he came here.[/quote]This would be devastating to not only Campbell's development but also his timing with the WRs in Zorn's offense. Favre certainly isn't going anywhere to be a back-up. Look at the headaches he's created for GB, imagine what a nightmare putting him on the bench would create. The local media and ESPN would be foaming at the mouth.

[quote]Additionally, he's 39, and the attrition rate for 39 year old QBs is through the roof (or floor, depending on how you picture it). QBs tend to stay pretty good into their late 30's (see: Brunell, Mark), but once 40 years old starts breathing down their neck, their game could fall off the map at any time (see: Brunell, Mark or Testeverde, Vincent).[/quote]Mark Brunell is not a good example of a QB who played "pretty good" in his late 30s. He was done at 36 and while statistically solid in 2005, I don't think anyone would argue his arm strength was shot when he got here.

Bringing in Favre would be a terrible mistake. SS mentioned Favre is less of a gunslinger. He was last year, but who's to say without McCarthy (he did do a great job with Favre BTW) he won't revert to his 2005 or 2006 form when he threw 29 & 18 INTs respectively. He's also had some pretty untimely INTs in the playoffs in 2004 & 2007. From a cap perspective, I know the front office folks are cap wizards, but I'm not sure even they could make this work anyway.

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The Overwhelming amount of no votes suggests to me that members of this site have a high football IQ. Signing Favre would do nothing but set this franchise back. While it does make sense in some regards (Snyder loves big names, Zorn learned from Holmgren who coached Favre, Favre knows the West coast offense) it would only hurt the team in the long run. Favre would get a big fat 2 year deal and possibly take us to the playoffs. By the time he retired…again, Campbell probably would have moved on and we would once again be looking for another QB. That would be our 18th quarterback in 16 seasons mind you. So the 5 years spent grooming Campbell is a waist and unless we think that Colt Brennan is our future it is a bad move. However, I would not be surprised at all if Snyder pursued this. I wrote a post on my blog explaining why Snyder might take a shot at signing Favre.

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What if, just what if, he did come here for one year and miracle of miracles he led us to a Super Bowl win. But then he retires and we go back to Campbell (who would have just missed another year of playing experience)?

Would you be happy that we won the Super Bowl, or frustrated that "what was it all worth if we just potentially sacrificed a year in growing the team for long-term success?"

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[quote=SmootSmack;456391]What if, just what if, he did come here for one year and miracle of miracles he led us to a Super Bowl win. But then he retires and we go back to Campbell (who would have just missed another year of playing experience)?

Would you be happy that we won the Super Bowl, or frustrated that "what was it all worth if we just potentially sacrificed a year in growing the team for long-term success?"[/quote]

I'll bet that sounds alot like the talk that was going around about "Gibbs" coming out of retirment.............."What If".................,how did that work out and please understand I'm just saying let JC play and forget Farve ...move on.:food-smil

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Im not sold on JC and I want to win [B]now[/B]. With that said Farve is [B]very very very [/B]risky. Hes been a high risk/ high reward player his whole career. So I want to say no to the idea but with Synder you never know what can happen.

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[quote=SmootSmack;456391]What if, just what if, he did come here for one year and miracle of miracles he led us to a Super Bowl win. But then he retires and we go back to Campbell (who would have just missed another year of playing experience)?

Would you be happy that we won the Super Bowl, or frustrated that "what was it all worth if we just potentially sacrificed a year in growing the team for long-term success?"[/quote]
[B]IF[/B] we could look into the crystal ball and know he'd bring us a SB, no brainer, of course we bring him in and get the SB.

However, absent the crystal ball I don't think we take the risk on him as the percentages are much less IMO that he could take us there. That chance is not worth the risk of losing a year of development for Campbell and the entire offense. Plus it also puts us into Campbell's final contract year (2009) without having a good read on where he ultimately is and do we invest long-term in him.

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;456385]This would be devastating to not only Campbell's development but also his timing with the WRs in Zorn's offense. Favre certainly isn't going anywhere to be a back-up. Look at the headaches he's created for GB, imagine what a nightmare putting him on the bench would create. The local media and ESPN would be foaming at the mouth.[/QUOTE]If Brett Favre isn't willing to compete for the No. 1 job, there's really no chance he comes back anyway. There is nowhere (save Oakland and maybe Tampa) where he could come in at this point in the year and be named the starter as soon as he signs.

Peter King thinks he wants to play in Minnesota, but what if Brad Childress decides that Tavaris Jackson should get the first shot? Then Favre has to wait his turn...which he would have to do in Green Bay.

I still don't think he's actually going to come back, and this is only an issue if he decides that he wants to play for the Redskins.

[QUOTE]Bringing in Favre would be a terrible mistake. SS mentioned Favre is less of a gunslinger. He was last year, but who's to say without McCarthy (he did do a great job with Favre BTW) he won't revert to his 2005 or 2006 form when he threw 29 & 18 INTs respectively. He's also had some pretty untimely INTs in the playoffs in 2004 & 2007. From a cap perspective, I know the front office folks are cap wizards, but I'm not sure even they could make this work anyway.[/QUOTE]Cap won't be an issue, and I think he's a pretty safe bet to revert back to 2006 levels (18 INTs) no matter where he plays.

But Campbell's development wouldn't get destroyed by having to sit a few games (not even a whole season) behind Favre. I don't think Favre would be an on field improvement over Campbell at his age, but if Favre wants to come here (and there is zero evidence to support this), it makes sense to at least give him an ear.