QB...controversy...DC?
 

Looks like there might be some legs to this crap!



[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/15/favre-to-the-redskins/]ProFootballTalk.com - FAVRE TO THE REDSKINS?[/url]

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There's no way. After an offseason exemplifying restraint, why would we do this? it would be a zero-confidence vote on JC, we'd murder our cap to clear the space (correct me if I'm wrong Schneed, Canuck, et al.), it'd be a huge experiment for a first year and first time head coach to take on... This is just the residual rep from past Snyder spending sprees rearing it's ugly head, brought up by unimaginitive rumor mongering at PFT.

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Giantone, I am aghast, shocked and dismayed that you would lend ANY credence to ANYTHING coming off of ProFootballTalk.com. I've read better crap in the super market check-out line.

That site is the sports writers equivalant of the National Enquirer.

By the end of training camps, they will have Bigfoot playing Defensive End for the Jets.

And please...a first round draft pick for a guy that will probably announce his retirement AGAIN next March!

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;456968]There's no way. After an offseason exemplifying restraint, why would we do this? it would be a zero-confidence vote on JC, we'd murder our cap to clear the space (correct me if I'm wrong Schneed, Canuck, et al.), it'd be a huge experiment for a first year and first time head coach to take on... This is just the residual rep from past Snyder spending sprees rearing it's ugly head, brought up by unimaginitive rumor mongering at PFT.[/quote]

You're absolutely right of course. Just look at the source cited by PFT

"A reader tells us that WFAN’s Mike Francesa said earlier this afternoon that the Packers could be trading quarterback Brett Favre to the Carolina Panthers or the Washington [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/15/favre-to-the-redskins/#"]Redskins[/URL] for a conditional first-round draft pick."

So, second hand, they heard that a radio personality in New York City says the Packers will make the trade. Probably some caller asked the guys opinion and he suggested that the Redskins or Panthers would make a good landing spot.

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Um yeah, not gonna happen

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Instead of BS'ing with Favre, would be nice to pick Jimmy Williams, CB.

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ProFootballTalk.com is comparable to "The Enquirer". I hear Bill Parcells is from the planet "Mantittya" and Gus Frerotte was trying to exorcise Martians from eating his brain thus the head-butting incident.

Seriously, PFT has very little credibility in my opinion (and many of yours from what I've read in the past). This is purely speculative fodder during a period in the off-season when there is very little to report.

I know Danny Boy has made some seriously stupid decisions (Spurrier, Deion, Weurfel, & J. George to name a few) but I just don't see the Skins clearing a ton of cap space to make this move. Especially with Campbell being so close to turning into the QB they envisioned when they drafted him.

HAIL!!

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PFT isn't awful, problem is they throw anything and everything up there so they lose whatever credibility they have when they do that.

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[quote=DIRTEE;456975]Instead of BS'ing with Favre, would be nice to pick Jimmy Williams, CB.[/quote]

Why would we be interested in that fool?

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"Jim Zorn is the new coach of the Redskins, and he’ll be using a version of the West Coast offense. Favre has been running the West Coast offense for his entire career.

Also, Redskins owner Dan Snyder has a history of targeting big-name players, and of giving up draft picks to get them. Given that franchise [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/15/favre-to-the-redskins/#"]quarterbacks[/URL] rarely if ever are available via trade or otherwise, perhaps Snyder and the ‘Skins won’t be able to resist."

Circumstantial, you're case will never stick PFT! I OBJECT

Can't believe they've gotten this bad at reporting. I mean I enjoy rumors, but at least give me a rumor with substance.

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Pro Football Turd is never wrong

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Giantone what "legs" are you talking about? This article just says Favre could go to the Redskins because, hey, it's the Redskins.

Didn't need its own thread, and you should probably read articles before posting them...

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Is it time for training camp yet? :doh:

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Shoot me in the face

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;456979]Why would we be interested in that fool?[/QUOTE]

He's a great defensive back. Would be nice to have him in the fold.

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Fahrve isn't a good fit with the Redskins right now. We can win with the quarterbacks we already have IF we get some decent blocking.

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[QUOTE=DIRTEE;456992]He's a great defensive back. Would be nice to have him in the fold.[/QUOTE]

"Great" defensive backs aren't on the street in late July.

As to the topic, PFT is less reliable as a source than my mailwoman. Until Favre is at a presser with Zorn and Snyderatto, call me a doubter..

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[quote=djnemo65;456985]Giantone what "legs" are you talking about? This article just says Favre could go to the Redskins because, hey, it's the Redskins.

Didn't need its own thread, and you should probably read articles before posting them...[/quote]


Just that if I come over here and say oh Bret's gona be a Skin ...all of you would shoot me,hell you have 2 or 3 threads about this now but if there is a link (like PFT or not) then there might be more to it then just rumors.

I read it ,you just don't like it.

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Let's slow down on the "reputable source" talk, PFT is a blog and is as reputable as any blogger can be.

But it seems like the problem is that this "rumor" really has us afraid. On one hand there's the sentiment that "Glad to see Snyder learned his lesson" and stayed lowkey for a change. But on the other hand, there's still the fear that if this rumor sticks around long enough then Danny Boy may just bite. There's still the fear in the heart of all Redskins fans that he still may be seduced by the dark side, or the thought of the number of jerseys he can sell.

Of course, all this could just be Bus Cook using the Redskins to drive up the price, which was mentioned on PFT. Or Dan's silence could just be an effort to keep the Redskins in the mainstream media, I mean otherwise they'd mention us only when they talk about rookie coaches and teams *expected to be* dropping out of the playoffs this year.

*edit* added the expected to be, since most pundits have us fifth in the four team NFC East

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[quote=DIRTEE;456992]He's a great defensive back.[/quote]

Negative. He has terrible character traits and has no heart. He is a complete bust and the Falcons got rid of him(even after they traded up into the second round to get him) just as soon as they could. He is a cancer.

Oh yeah and then there is the fact that he got run out of Redskin Park halfway through his pre-draft interview after acting like a punk. I still can't believe that he picked up his cell phone in the middle of his interview with Joe Gibbs and started having a conversation right in front of a football legend. It's just so absurd.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;456998]Just that if I come over here and say oh Bret's gona be a Skin ...all of you would shoot me,hell you have [B]2 or 3 threads about this now[/B] but [B]if there is a link (like PFT or not) then there might be more to it then just rumors.

I read it ,you just don't like it[/B].[/QUOTE]

Hence the lack of need for a new thread. Post this in one of those.

They at least lay out a scenario for Favre going to Carolina. There is nothing new or substantive in this blurb vis-à-vis the Redskins. I can see thinking there might be more to it than rumors prior to reading it, however, upon reading it clearly there is not.

Maybe I'm reacting negatively because I don't like what the article says, or maybe you are just bringing weak sauce to the picnic.

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It isn't that PFT is a reliable or unreliable source. They simply post any and all news that they gather from all of the media outlets from around the league. It is what it is: Pro...Football...Talk. If somebody affiliated with some football team says something football related they post it, plain and simple. It's all just water cooler....talk.

As to this rumor, if we do sign Favre, I'll tattoo "I heart PFT" on my right arm.

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[quote=djnemo65;457002]Hence the lack of need for a new thread. Post this in one of those.

They at least lay out a scenario for Favre going to Carolina. There is nothing new or substantive in this blurb vis-à-vis the Redskins. I can see thinking there might be more to it than rumors prior to reading it, however, upon reading it clearly there is not.

Maybe I'm reacting negatively because I don't like what the article says, or maybe you are just bringing weak sauce to the picnic.[/quote]



......I brought the beer,:)

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[QUOTE=Giantone;457004]......I brought the beer,:)[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, I'll drink to that...

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More from PFT

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/15/more-on-favre-to-the-redskins/]ProFootballTalk.com - MORE ON FAVRE TO THE REDSKINS[/url]

"The wildly divergent viewpoints, however, mean that no one’s got a clue about how this whole mess is going to end up."

Finally, PFT gets it right

There isn't much, in my opinion, to be gained by trading for Favre. If Zorn wants to say (and I'm totally making this up) "you know what Campbell's just not my guy. I didn't draft him and I'll say all the right things but truth is I'm more focused on developing Colt for 2009-2010," that's fine I suppose but a) Favre as a stopgap measure wont come cheap and b) a huge investment has already been made in Campbell so just be aware of that.

End of the day, I think Campbell is our guy for years to come.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;457003]

As to this rumor, if we do sign Favre, I'll tattoo "I heart PFT" on my right arm.[/QUOTE]

I was totally against the idea of getting Favre until this comment, now I am rooting for it! ;)

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I would only go after Farve if he was released. Other than I wouln't touch him. He's irratic and hes always been a high risk/ high reward player.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;456969]Giantone, I am aghast, shocked and dismayed that you would lend ANY credence to ANYTHING coming off of ProFootballTalk.com. I've read better crap in the super market check-out line.

That site is the sports writers equivalant of the National Enquirer.

By the end of training camps, they will have Bigfoot playing Defensive End for the Jets.

And please...a first round draft pick for a guy that will probably announce his retirement AGAIN next March![/QUOTE]

Didn't you hear? We're trading picks for Bigfoot too.

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"For a conditional first-round draft pick?????"

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

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Sigh.... This is so weak. The vast majority of PFT's rumors are farts in the wind.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;457025]Didn't you hear? We're trading picks for Bigfoot too.[/quote]
LMAO! Farve under center and Sasquatch coming off the end!

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PFT is a crap.
this is the result of the off season boredom.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;457003]It isn't that PFT is a reliable or unreliable source. They simply post any and all news that they gather from all of the media outlets from around the league. It is what it is: Pro...Football...Talk. If somebody affiliated with some football team says something football related they post it, plain and simple. It's all just water cooler....talk.

As to this rumor, if we do sign Favre, I'll tattoo "I heart PFT" on my right arm.[/quote]
Disagree, totally.

What we do HERE in this forum is water cooler talk. And trust me, this site is a more reliable news source than PFT will ever be.

And what you said is the difference between a reliable source and an unreliable source. Professional writers will check, double check and triple check thier sources to ensure all credibility prior to running a story. Shoot even I will check multiple news sources on a story before referencing it in a post. Not PFT though.

If PFT is just a bunch of guys doing "water cooler" talk as you say with no sources or checking sources, than it is no better than a tabloid "making up" outlandish stories and publishing them.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;457150]Disagree, totally.

What we do HERE in this forum is water cooler talk. And trust me, this site is a more reliable news source than PFT will ever be.

And what you said is the difference between a reliable source and an unreliable source. Professional writers will check, double check and triple check thier sources to ensure all credibility prior to running a story. Shoot even I will check multiple news sources on a story before referencing it in a post. Not PFT though.

If PFT is just a bunch of guys doing "water cooler" talk as you say with no sources or checking sources, than it is no better than a tabloid "making up" outlandish stories and publishing them.[/QUOTE]

I can't take it anymore, this is like Buzz Bissinger ripping into Will Leitch all over again.

PFT is a blog. It's not a news source, its not even wikipedia, in fact the information that we're even talking about is in the section titled RUMOR MILL. He's not a reporter, he gives his opinion on stories that other people have written or heard about. The Favre to Redskins story started with Mike Francesa of WFAN, so to blame PFT is inaccurate, he's a blogger. So let's not attack PFT for not being a credible news source, to me it's like people being mad at McDonald's for selling cheeseburgers.

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[quote=vallin21;457013]I would only go after Farve if he was released. Other than I wouln't touch him. He's irratic and hes always been a high risk/ high reward player.[/quote]


Yes but he'll only go where he will start right away,is that fair to Campbell?

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Adam Shefter on NFL Total Access just [U]ruled out the Skins as a possibility for Favre[/U]. He said they are committed to Jason Campbell as their starter.

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The issue here is not, or should not be, whether or not PFT is credible. Plenty of other people in the media floated similar rumors. The issue is that anybody who follows this team knows this was never going to happen. There are mountains of evidence pointing to the team's faith in and commitment to Campbell. Moreover, none of these rumors were based on anything more than a belief that Synder will always go after the big name player in an attempt to win now, future be damned: to the consternation of us fans who recognize that 1999 was a long time ago.

Anyway, to some of you guys who took these reports seriously I have advice. If anyone ever tries to sell you the Brooklyn bridge don't buy.

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not going to happen..as a matter of fact Green Bay trying to slap Minnesota a suit for tampering with Favre..If he goes anywhere its Minnesota or Carolina

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Their entire reason for Brett Favre coming to D.C. is one very simple little connection that anyone could make and then throw into the discussion as "credible evidence".

Brett Favre plays in the WCO. Jim Zorn runs the WCO. Therefore the Skins could be interested in Favre.

That's about the least credible evidence I've heard of. That's like saying "DeMarcus Ware is an OLB in a 3-4 scheme. The Patriots run a 3-4 scheme. That's my basis for starting a 'the Patriots being interested in trading for DeMarcus Ware' rumor." There is no credibility in that whatsoever.

At least now that Schefter has reported it less people will be inclined to believe the 'Skins are interested. He's not a very credible source himself but he does carry more weight than a rumor monger like PFT.

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[QUOTE=mooby;457206]Their entire reason for Brett Favre coming to D.C. is one very simple little connection that anyone could make and then throw into the discussion as "credible evidence".

Brett Favre plays in the WCO. Jim Zorn runs the WCO. Therefore the Skins could be interested in Favre.

That's about the least credible evidence I've heard of. That's like saying "DeMarcus Ware is an OLB in a 3-4 scheme. The Patriots run a 3-4 scheme. That's my basis for starting a 'the Patriots being interested in trading for DeMarcus Ware' rumor." There is no credibility in that whatsoever.

At least now that Schefter has reported it less people will be inclined to believe the 'Skins are interested. He's not a very credible source himself but he does carry more weight than a rumor monger like PFT.[/QUOTE]

I would say that few sources out there are more credible than Schefter