Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

A message just came accross Comcast Sports Net that said we had offered Miami a round 2nd round pick next year for Jason Taylor. I will look for a link and or more details.


[I][B]Were dancing with a star now, your my boy vinny! [/B][/I]

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Yup. It's actually a 2nd and a 6th in 2010. From Jlac:

Posted at 6:41 PM ET, 07/20/2008
Skins Trade For Taylor

Vinny Cerrato just announced the Skins acquired Pro Bowl DE Jason Taylor from Miami for a second round pick in 2009 and a sixth round pick in 2010.

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Here it is a 2nd and a 6th! Jason Tayolor is a skin.

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Wow, I thought they would end up doing this deal anyways before the start of the season. Let's hope that JT still has some gas in the tank and can perform for a couple years.

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I guess I'm pleased that it's not a 1st. Also JT is going to be better than Daniels so I can't complain much.

He's going to a great market if he wants major exposure before he starts his Hollywood career.

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Just saw it on ESPN. Done deal.

Welcome to D.C. Mr. Taylor.

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I hope he enjoys playing here and stays for a few years. A 2nd & 6th round pick is a lot for one last hurrah from JT.

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The thing about trading out of the first round this year was it was unlikely that any of our second round picks would've been holdouts. Jason Taylor, even at his age now, is still good value for a 2nd rounder (6th rounder is just a throw in). I'm dancing with the stars now...

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The 6th is almost valueless, just a throw in deal, but Miami really made out on us with the 2nd. I mean, if Daniels doesn't go down, they either have to settle for a 4th from someone else, or just hold on to him for this season.

This is almost as nice for them as getting a 2nd for Chris Chambers. Not quite that good, but close.

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What is his salary terms? Will he demand to another contract? Would Parcells have wanted to trade to us if he still coached in DAL?

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Just like some people, I think 2nd rd is kinda too much.. Also JT would be playing as left end, hope it will be a smooth change.. But there's nothing we can do but to hope the best out of this deal.. (I hope he will play more than a yr)

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[quote=GTripp0012;457888]The 6th is almost valueless, just a throw in deal, but Miami really made out on us with the 2nd. I mean, if Daniels doesn't go down, they either have to settle for a 4th from someone else, or just hold on to him for this season.

This is almost as nice for them as getting a 2nd for Chris Chambers. Not quite that good, but close.[/quote]Chambers or Taylor? I'd take Jason Talyor please. How productive has he been for the last few years?

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I thought it was a fair deal, I have no real concerns about his ability to play the run. Freeney is about the same size and has a similar game and the Colts don't struggle to stop the run. I have more concerns about Taylor only playing one season, that would equate to this deal being highway robbery.

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I like the deal. This will make the rest of our D much better with a bit more pass presure.

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A 2nd sounds like a lot to me based on what's been reported previously about other teams' interest. Never know though, Vinny might have had some good intel that somebody else was offering a 3rd & something else, so he had to up the offer.

Terrible that Daniels went down, but in one day this really improves our D. I give props to Danny & Vinny for acting w/lightening speed on this after losing 2 DEs in 1 day.

Also, we never know if this deal was in the works before Daniels was hurt, but if Daniels' injury was truly the impetus, then give the front office props for letting Blace stick w/his vets.

JT & AC; they can't both wear 99, but that's the only down side. If they can get 15-20 sacks between them, which they're capable of, our D will be much improved.

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I hate to say this, because I really like him, but Philip Daniels could be the Skins MVP this year. I already liked our D-line, but with the addition of J. Taylor the pass rush could be downright scary! I think a 2nd rounder is a bit high, but let's face it the Dolphins had all the leverage here. Carter and Taylor coming off the ends just made the back 7 that much tougher!!

HAIL!!

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[quote=freddyg12;457899]A 2nd sounds like a lot to me based on what's been reported previously about other teams' interest. Never know though, Vinny might have had some good intel that somebody else was offering a 3rd & something else, so he had to up the offer.

Terrible that Daniels went down, but in one day this really improves our D. I give props to Danny & Vinny for acting w/lightening speed on this after losing 2 DEs in 1 day.

Also, we never know if this deal was in the works before Daniels was hurt, but if Daniels' injury was truly the impetus, then give the front office props for letting Blace stick w/his vets.

JT & AC; they can't both wear 99, but that's the only down side. If they can get 15-20 sacks between them, which they're capable of, our D will be much improved.[/quote]Good point about not knowing if we made a offer prior to this and had to up the ante. There's still plenty of good numbers up for grabs.

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JT is only going to play one more year.

He has no alligence to the Skins and has even told everyone he just wants to play one more year before going into Hollywood. I'm fine with that. DE was one of weak spots on our defense. Taylor should shore it up for the time being...don't get too attached to him though because he's a one and done.

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Let me quote a modern day masterpiece movie (sarcasm) Robo-Cop
[B][I][U][COLOR="Red"]"I like it"[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B]

Taylor is a stand up guy in and out of the locker room. He is a former defensive Mvp or Runner-up. And we are desperate for a productive player in the DE position.

This is a win-win!
Sure if we would of got him for flea market price that would of been even better but Target Budget is not bad.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;457903]JT is only going to play one more year.

He has no alligence to the Skins and has even told everyone he just wants to play one more year before going into Hollywood. I'm fine with that. DE was one of weak spots on our defense. Taylor should shore it up for the time being...don't get too attached to him though because he's a one and done.[/quote]

This was said by Taylor when the dolphins were slapping him in the face with there cavalier attitude of not needing him and so forth...
The Tuna is too good to start his project of a team with a good to above average player...would look better when the Dolphins rise from the door mats of the AFC and become something.

If you went to work and your boss was casually hinting that he did not need you to do what went on there, wouldn't you send them to hell with gasoline draws on...

Taylor just showed emotions...arrest him! If we give him the loyalty that the Great Redskin fan base can and will offer, he will rise to the occasion.
I give him 2-3 years here!

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While I think it was probaboly a bit too expensive, we really had no choice but to pull the trigger on this. Our defense is better than it was at the start of the day. I hate to see Daniels go down, cause I really like him, but Taylor is more talented. I just hope the leadership of Daniels isn't missed too much, cause he was a great leader on the D.

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2nd is pretty high... but i don't mind the d-line help whatsoever. Especially with the Daniels injury news earlier today. He should be still fairly productive and I think that only helps this season. D-Line isn't really a position where he'll have to re-learn a bunch of things.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;457903]JT is only going to play one more year.

He has no alligence to the Skins and has even told everyone he just wants to play one more year before going into Hollywood. I'm fine with that. DE was one of weak spots on our defense. Taylor should shore it up for the time being...don't get too attached to him though because he's a one and done.[/quote]

John Clayton just said that he'd heard from Taylor & that he's going to play at least 2 more years. Guess there's really no way to force him to play another year, but if we're close he might stay longer IMO.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;457901]I hate to say this, because I really like him, but Philip Daniels could be the Skins MVP this year. I already liked our D-line, but with the addition of J. Taylor the pass rush could be downright scary! I think a 2nd rounder is a bit high, but let's face it the Dolphins had all the leverage here. Carter and Taylor coming off the ends just made the back 7 that much tougher!!

HAIL!![/quote]

Yeah, I like Daniels too & think he' a solid guy & player, but he's no JT. We now have one of the top 5 DE pass rush combos in the nfl.

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I would have preferred to see us give up a third rounder instead, but I guess I am fine with this How good a move this turns out to be will be up to Taylor, and how seriously he takes his commitment to the team.

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Looked back at Taylor's run metrics (run defense) from the last three years: they're consistently bad.

I guess the good thing is that they don't look any different from Daniels' production last year.

But those sacks, oh boy can he rack up those sack totals. He's an 8 sack guy in a down year.

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JT will make our defense and particularly our secondary better immediately. My concern is what this does to our Cap Space. No money left. Do we renegotiate his salary?

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Love this move. I was hoping the skins would have gone DE with their first rounder this year. I'll take JT over any of the DEs that were available where our original first round pick was this year in a heartbeat. Our pass rush just got worlds better than it was. JT and AC could really make for a great duo coming off the ends. Very excited to see him in action. Welcome to the Skins, Jason!

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Wow. This happened really fast. On nfl.com, Cerrato says he will play more than one year. We're definitely going to have an amazing pass rush this year

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;457914]Love this move... Our pass rush just got worlds better than it was. JT and AC could really make for a great duo coming off the ends. Very excited to see him in action. Welcome to the Skins, Jason![/quote]Does this put more burden on our quality-depth thin LB corps not having a true strongside DE? Maybe Demetric Evans will play on first down and in short yardage situations.

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Don't think of it as JT for a second rounder, that's kind of depressing. Think of it as JT for a better shot at winning the championship. That Redskin is going to put Romo, McNabb and that dude up in NY on their a$$e$ all season long.

Opposing team QB: "Oh no! Here comes Andre Carter! I better run the other wa...[splat]"

724Skinsfan: "Mom-ma"

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This basically means Daniels has played his last game as a Redskin. His contract is up at the end of the year and he's done for this year

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Updating Madden roster as we speak.

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I'm with JLac here. We were in a bind--this is the best of a difficult situation. If he plays 2 good years, we got a great deal. But even 1 strong will do, IMO.

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Wow, Just Your Average First Day Of Camp, Eh?

Man, my head is still spinning. What a crazy day.

Anyway, to me, this is a move the Skins had to make. You're talking about picking up dudes who can, most likely, barely play in the NFL, if at all, versus getting a future Hall of Famer and the premier sack guy in the league over the last 10 years. (Okay, maybe it's Strahan, but he's retired now.)

And Vinny Cerrato was ever-so-confident Taylor is more than a one-year rental, so that's huge, too. It was going to take a second-round pick to get him under these circumstances - the league knew the Skins were desperate as heck now, losing two DEs for the season right off the bat, including a starter.

Taylor will certainly have some entertainment-type stuff he wants to do in the offseason, but with his pedigree, he's earned that right. He's been remarkably healthy his entire career - hasn't missed a start this decade - and is still a beast at 33. You have to try to make this move; there's no one else out there and it was already a very thin spot of the roster even with a healthy Daniels.

The Skins had to act decisively and they did, but I'm not buying that they pulled this off in 45-60 minutes, as Cerrato tried to say, but in the end that doesn't matter. (For what it's worth, the Dolphins still will not confirm this deal as of 7:30).

Good for the Skins. Guys like Chris Wilson should learn a lot from Taylor, and it was a huge gamble banking on Daniels staying healthy all year as the starter in the first place, given his age and injury history.

So, how to they top this Monday?[/COLOR]

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How do you have 2 season ending injuries on the 1st day of camp. A day in shells. I think the Skins will miss Daniels presence against the run but this is a Division where as the Giants proved last year you have to get after the Quarterback. We will see a lot of draws this year.

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LOL, wow what's day 2 of the Zorn era going to look like??!?! I like the move, we're getting a proven stud for a couple (hopefully) of years..

Don't discount Snyder's Hollywood connections to getting a little more out of JT possibly.. That'd be an interesting thing to watch contract wise, if he signs an extension or lower $$ deal, yet gets a multi picture deal with Snyder's studio..

Football-wise it's a huge win though, Taylor vs. Daniels is nowhere close.. Should be interesting around the family dinner table though with his wife being married to Cowboys LB Zach Thomas!

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We're going to get squashed in the running game. Taylor is the type of phony that ESPN loves to hype but he's not an everydown guy which is why Parcels has been trying to dump his ass from the moment he got there. Leave it Snyder and Ceratto to make his dreams come true. These two are quite a piece of work. Dumb and Dumber.

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espn says the skins had to give up a 2nd and 9th rounder to get taylor.i hope to hell he plays more than 1 year.

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[quote=70Chip;457924]We're going to get squashed in the running game. Taylor is the type of phony that ESPN loves to hype but he's not an everydown guy which is why Parcels has been trying to dump his ass from the moment he got there. Leave it Snyder and Ceratto to make his dreams come true. These two are quite a piece of work. Dumb and Dumber.[/quote]This isn't directed to you 'Chip but, did we want an improved pass rush, or run stoppage?

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make that next year's 2nd rounder and a 6th rounder in 2010.
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