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Dirtbag59 08-03-2008 11:00 PM

OT: Omg! Wtf! Lol! Colt Brennan Is So 1337
 
Figured I'd save the rest of you the trouble of starting the inevitable Colt Brennan must start thread. :D

JGisLordOfTheRings 08-03-2008 11:12 PM

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Thank you. I was actually just not getting around to doing this LOL.

Smooter 08-03-2008 11:15 PM

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Oh no. I've been dreading this day.

NM Redskin 08-04-2008 12:34 AM

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Well if Collins keeps preforming like tonight, Colts got at least a shot a 2.

That Guy 08-04-2008 12:45 AM

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collins sucked last preseason too, but he'll be alright.

honestly i don't want to waste playing time on devine at all right now. he has no shot, just cut him and give brennan or collins more playing time to learn this thing.

if brennan can play like that against a 1st string unit, i'd gladly welcome him as our #2, but while he was definitely impressive, I don't think he'd do quite as well with freeney and a certain safety playing against him. No reason not to give him a chance or more playing time though.

SmootSmack 08-04-2008 07:17 AM

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Great thread title :)

I've been wondering for a while now if Collins' struggles (combined with comfort in Campbell's health, abilities, and experience) might bump him down to #3 but have been reluctant to say so. I doubt Colt will move up to #2, but he should at least get some snaps against 1st stringers this preseason.

Agree about Devine. Why waste any more time with him

RedskinRat 08-04-2008 07:34 AM

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1. Campbell
2. Brennan
3. Uh....Oh, OK, Collins. Just based on his rescue job last season.

Brennan will be a nice back-up to Campbell. Collins looks a little lost in the new scheme, as did Devine.

SmootSmack 08-04-2008 07:43 AM

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Brennan throws like my main man from back in the day, Bernie Kosar.

Brennan Bandwagon, here we go!!!

mooby 08-04-2008 09:28 AM

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I'm not hopping on that bandwagon just yet lol. I'd try and give Brennan some snaps against 1st stringers though. Definitely agree about Devine. And looks like Collins has the same learning curve as the rest of them, I'd give him this season as the #2 and then hopefully Brennan steps up and takes the #2 job from him next season.

MTK 08-04-2008 10:00 AM

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Colt played well but consider a couple of things. He was playing against scrubs, he had WRs running wide freaking open. That's not going to happen against first stringers. But I did like his accuracy, when he saw a guy he hit him.

Secondly, he locks on to his WRs big time. That's to be expected from a young QB but there's no way he's ready to start or even be the #2. Collins to me appeared to be very hesitant in his decision making, but I think once he gets up to speed in the offense he's going to be fine.

firstdown 08-04-2008 10:20 AM

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He looked good but I'll wait until I see a few more passes before I pass any judgement.

hesscl34 08-04-2008 10:33 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;461393]Colt played well but consider a couple of things. He was playing against scrubs, he had WRs running wide freaking open. That's not going to happen against first stringers. But I did like his accuracy, when he saw a guy he hit him.

Secondly, he locks on to his WRs big time. That's to be expected from a young QB but there's no way he's ready to start or even be the #2. Collins to me appeared to be very hesitant in his decision making, but I think once he gets up to speed in the offense he's going to be fine.[/quote]

Plus he has the coolest name for a QB. Colt Brennan.. it just sounds right!!! .. LOL

hesscl34 08-04-2008 10:34 AM

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[quote=NM Redskin;461331]Well if Collins keeps preforming like tonight, Colts got at least a shot a 2.[/quote]

I'd have to agree with you on that. Collins did not look comfortable or happy out there last night.

over the mountain 08-04-2008 11:35 AM

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lol at this thread. come on man, colt looked good against the guys he lined up against and im happy he performed well. is this wrong that i liked what i saw from colt with his sidearm?

and i hope collins stays as our #2, im a big believer in having a veteran back up a developing qb like JC. as we have seen injuries happen in this league

GTripp0012 08-04-2008 11:43 AM

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Anyone who payed any attention to college football knew that Colt Brennan was more than capable of doing this against NFL 2nd and 3rd teamers. I mean, the big knock on him is the level of competition he saw in college, and he really didn't answer that last night.

I think though, when we drafted him, there wasn't any doubt that he was good enough to do this. There is still doubt that once he's on film, that he'll ever be able to adapt to the speed and adjustment ability of NFL defenses, but this performance hardly surprised me. The guy has only been doing it the last three years.

Stuck in TX 08-04-2008 11:48 AM

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;461404]I'd have to agree with you on that. Collins did not look comfortable or happy out there last night.[/QUOTE]

I think that ole Collins will be lost without his longtime guru Al Saunders. I bet he is held onto but is let go next year to retire with the Rams.

Cowell 08-04-2008 12:04 PM

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I thought the same thing. All of a sudden Collins doesen't look so comfortable. I guess when you have been playing in one system almost your whole career it's really tough to switch.

GhettoDogAllStars 08-04-2008 12:06 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;461393]Colt played well but consider a couple of things. He was playing against scrubs, he had WRs running wide freaking open. That's not going to happen against first stringers. But I did like his accuracy, when he saw a guy he hit him.

[b]Secondly, he locks on to his WRs big time.[/b] That's to be expected from a young QB but there's no way he's ready to start or even be the #2. Collins to me appeared to be very hesitant in his decision making, but I think once he gets up to speed in the offense he's going to be fine.[/QUOTE]

No kidding -- big time. He would have thrown some picks, if his primary target wasn't open all night. There was at least one play where he threw to his primary target (without checking others), and it was almost intercepted.

I think he looked good, but this kid would get eaten alive against a real NFL defense. There's no way I'd make him our #2. Collins proved last year that he can manage a game, against a real defense, and during games that really matter. Colt hasn't done squat yet.

LMsexyAO 08-04-2008 12:18 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;461442]No kidding -- big time. He would have thrown some picks, if his primary target wasn't open all night. There was at least one play where he threw to his primary target (without checking others), and it was almost intercepted.

I think he looked good, but this kid would get eaten alive against a real NFL defense. There's no way I'd make him our #2. Collins proved last year that he can manage a game, against a real defense, and during games that really matter. Colt hasn't done squat yet.[/quote]


I agree completely. Plus, what you want from your #2 is someone who can come in and MANAGE a game, and we already know Collins is able to do that perfectly. If Colt played like he did last night against starters, as everyone's already said, he would have thrown at least one guaranteed interception. That's not what you want from your #2; Collins is still the smart choice.

riggins44 08-04-2008 12:24 PM

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Got to cut Collins some slack for last night. The OL didn't give him the protection to see what he could do. I'm not ready to bump Brennan up
the depth chart. Will wait till he plays against a better D. Think the kid
has a future with Zorn.

BDBohnzie 08-04-2008 12:29 PM

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Couldn't agree more riggins44...

I think Brennan will only continue to prosper with Zorn by his side. And while he looked calm and collected last night, he made rookie mistakes, and will continue to do so until he gets his feet further wet and learns more.

Jamaican'Skin 08-04-2008 12:37 PM

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Colt has to be the starter because he is such a hottie, omg, and Campbell hurt his knee and he's not back to 100%. I mean this is just the preseason but bench Campbell because he throws interceptions and Colt did not in his first preseason game ever. Colt is going to be a Hll of Famer like Gibbs and Green and Monk. GO COLT





only joking

JWsleep 08-04-2008 12:45 PM

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[QUOTE=riggins44;461451]Got to cut Collins some slack for last night. The OL didn't give him the protection to see what he could do. I'm not ready to bump Brennan up
the depth chart. Will wait till he plays against a better D. Think the kid
has a future with Zorn.[/QUOTE]

Good post. Sounds about right.

SeanTaylor21SKINS 08-04-2008 12:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;461393]Colt played well but consider a couple of things. [COLOR="Red"]He was playing against scrubs, he had WRs running wide freaking open.[/COLOR] That's not going to happen against first stringers. But I did like his accuracy, when he saw a guy he hit him.

Secondly, he locks on to his WRs big time. That's to be expected from a young QB but there's no way he's ready to start or even be the #2. Collins to me appeared to be very hesitant in his decision making, but I think once he gets up to speed in the offense he's going to be fine.[/QUOTE]

But he did'nt have the starting WR's or O-Line so it all evens out.
Colt + Starting WR's and O-line = The same result against their starting Defense

I still would wait before bumping him up to # 2.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-04-2008 01:08 PM

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but a PFT post sums up my thoughts:

[B]‘SKINS FANS GO GA-GA OVER BRENNAN[/B]Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2008, 11:09 a.m.

We’ve gotten plenty of e-mails from Redskins fans who believe that, on the weekend that the latest two D.C. Hall of Famers were enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the Redskins might have found their next potential bronze bust for Canton.

Rookie quarterback Colt Brennan, a Heisman hype recipient who slid to round six after getting picked apart in the Sugar Bowl, gaining lots of weight in the offseason, and needing hip surgery before the draft, completed nine of ten passes and threw for two touchdowns during the second half of the annual Hall of Fame game, leading the Redskins to a 30-16 win over the Colts.

But, folks, it was garbage time in a meaningless game that featured little or no actual game planning or other strategery. Though we’re not saying Brennan won’t someday become a stud quarterback (as we’ve learned over the past several years, certain sixth-round quarterbacks can do fairly good things), Brennan’s good run in glorified practice against a bunch of defensive players who’ll likely be looking for work a month from now isn’t cause for celebration.

Instead, Redskins fans should be far happier that starter Jason Campbell completed five of five passes for 61 yards and a touchdown in two shots at running the new offense that coach Jim Zorn has brought to town.

Longtimefan 08-04-2008 01:16 PM

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I will say this for Colt Brennan, he was able to acomplish what was called upon him to do. Granted the level of competition at the point he entered the game was such it's difficult to make a true determination of his value, he did make plays, and he also looked far better than Jordan Palmer did this time last year. He's a project that's going to take time to develop into an NFL type QB, and right now, time is something he has plenty of.

KokoMike 08-04-2008 01:27 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;461393]Colt played well but consider a couple of things. He was playing against scrubs, he had WRs running wide freaking open. That's not going to happen against first stringers. But I did like his accuracy, when he saw a guy he hit him.

Secondly, he locks on to his WRs big time. That's to be expected from a young QB but there's no way he's ready to start or even be the #2. Collins to me appeared to be very hesitant in his decision making, but I think once he gets up to speed in the offense he's going to be fine.[/QUOTE]

Yo, Mattyk72...I don't think Jim Zorn is thinking that Brennan is locking in on his WR's big time. Zorn said after the game:

"More than his throws, what I was pleased with is how he was looking to the right guy when he was backpedaling," said Zorn, a former NFL quarterback. "He knew the plays, knew the routes. He should feel very good about his performance."

Regarding the WR's being wide open, it was that way the whole game. I do think Brennan threaded a couple of passes in there, against pretty tight coverage.

I've seen Brennan play live a dozen times or so and, at least I think, it is difficult to conclude that he locks on receivers. I do think he goes through progressions pretty quickly. He just doesn't turn his head to it is obvious to everybody. That's my view anyway.

I respect your view, too.

I just want to score points and win. Hail to the Redskins!

BeastsoftheNFCeast 08-04-2008 01:27 PM

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Im not saying that it's gonna happen ...but if brennan preforms better than campbell...but campbell is still playing well, who would get the starting position? I doubt brennan would be given a shot unless campbell goes down.

redsk1 08-04-2008 01:28 PM

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There's no reason to heap too much praise or too much negativity on him right now. It's just game 1 of the preseason!!

There's alot we don't know right now. There are a couple things we do know.

In one game he looks ALOT better than Jordan Palmer. Can we all agree on that?

He played very well last night.

SmootSmack 08-04-2008 01:37 PM

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I see Campbell and Colt, and I instantly think this is probably the best starter/back-up QB combo since Montana/Young :)

Seriously though. The highlight should definitely be Jason Campbell's performance. It was a brief performance but he really really looked good. Still, as LTF points out, don't sell short what Colt did out there (regardless of the talent surrounding him).

Most importantly, in both cases, they are getting their first full live game action since having major surgery and neither showed any side effects from it. That's the real positive.

Skinny Tee 08-04-2008 01:58 PM

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He needs more preseason games before the hype starts to take over and people start filling him in as the #2 QB. He had a good game but he still in a learning phase of his development. I liked what I saw but I will need to see way more of it before I'm convinced he's even ready to be a backup.

Also being that we paid Collins as recently as this past offseason precludes us from demoting him to the #3 spot. Collins is our backup no matter how many TD's Brennan throws.

EXoffender 08-04-2008 02:06 PM

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Jason Campbell looked sharp!

freddyg12 08-04-2008 02:19 PM

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Gotta be happy w/Colt, of course you can't make too much of it. I like that Madden said he could "feel energy" from him.

Did anyone think he looked a little like Heath Shuler in uniform? wearing #5 too

mooby 08-04-2008 02:30 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;461484]
Also being that we paid Collins as recently as this past offseason precludes us from demoting him to the #3 spot. Collins is our backup no matter how many TD's Brennan throws.[/quote]

I wouldn't quite say that. If Brennan lit it up this preseason and looked like he definitely deserved to be the #2 I think the staff would give it to him. You have to remember a certain safety that we signed in the '06 offseason who absolutely sucked and was benched in the middle of the season, and demoted to like the lowest spot on the roster, even though he still had the richest contract ever signed by a safety. Just because we gave Collins a new contract doesn't mean he can't get demoted if Brennan steps up and takes the #2 spot away from him.

DIRTEE 08-04-2008 02:39 PM

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I'm glad he did well and I hope he continues to do well.

Hog's Breath 08-04-2008 03:28 PM

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I think the one thing Collins has over Colt is the experience obviously. So I'd much rather see him at #2 than Colt. Regardless, of how they play in preseason. With that being said, if JC goes down(God forbid) and the season is in the toilet then Colt needs to be playing.

Skinny Tee 08-04-2008 03:38 PM

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[quote=mooby;461497]I wouldn't quite say that. If Brennan lit it up this preseason and looked like he definitely deserved to be the #2 I think the staff would give it to him. You have to remember a certain safety that we signed in the '06 offseason who absolutely sucked and was benched in the middle of the season, and demoted to like the lowest spot on the roster, even though he still had the richest contract ever signed by a safety. Just because we gave Collins a new contract doesn't mean he can't get demoted if Brennan steps up and takes the #2 spot away from him.[/quote]


Zorn even said in today's press conference that Collins is still the #2 and the spot is not in danger of being overtaken.

I think that's a good idea to let the fans know from the start that he ahs no chance to ascend the depth chart because of the additional hype that would create in a town that loves its QB controversies.

skinsfan69 08-04-2008 03:44 PM

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C'mon people. It's one pre season game.

mooby 08-04-2008 03:53 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;461510]Zorn even said in today's press conference that Collins is still the #2 and the spot is not in danger of being overtaken.

I think that's a good idea to let the fans know from the start that he ahs no chance to ascend the depth chart because of the additional hype that would create in a town that loves its QB controversies.[/quote]

I'm not debating whether Colt should be the #2 lol. I was just pointing out the inaccuracy of saying Collins has to be the #2 quarterback because he got a nice contract in the offseason.

Furthermore, I highly doubt Brennan ascends beyond the #3 spot this offseason. People are getting hyped up because he had a nice performance in his first game, when we all know what the reality of the situation was. Collins has experience over Brennan and I doubt he would play horribly enough to lose the #2 spot. Like many have pointed out Brennan has a long ways to go before he can even be called a good #2.

Daseal 08-04-2008 04:20 PM

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All last night did was more or less guarantee Colt a spot on our roster. It doesn't matter if he's #2 or #3 -- if Campbell goes down we can kiss the season goodbye. I would love to see him get some real game experience if we've either got a game won, or say games towards the end of the year don't matter for us either way. We've sealed a home playoff spot by SF or we're statistically out of the playoffs. In those situations Id like to get Colt some time.


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