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SFREDSKIN 08-03-2008 11:16 PM

Impressive rookies
 
Man I loved the way some our rookies performed tonight. Starting with Colt Brennan and Chris Horton, Fred Davis looked good, Chad Rinehardt was solid. I would love to see Horton make the squad, he looks like a keeper and is a hitter, kudos to Vinny. I know is only one exhibition game but it's a start.

12thMan 08-03-2008 11:23 PM

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You can bet Horton makes this squad.

hesscl34 08-03-2008 11:23 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;461295]Man I loved the way some our rookies performed tonight. Starting with Colt Brennan and Chris Horton, Fred Davis looked good, Chad Rinehardt was solid. I would love to see Horton make the squad, he looks like a keeper and is a hitter, kudos to Vinny. I know is only one exhibition game but it's a start.[/quote]


Chris Horton was amazing.. and Colt Brennan.. wow... I'm afaid to go there.. he was great tonight.

WaldSkins 08-03-2008 11:24 PM

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Yea Horton def impressed me. Hopefully Kelly and Thomas can get some playing time saturday.

12thMan 08-03-2008 11:24 PM

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I wonder if Dwayne Walker had anything to do with Horton coming here.

RMSkins 08-03-2008 11:57 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;461295]Man I loved the way some our rookies performed tonight. Starting with Colt Brennan and Chris Horton, Fred Davis looked good, Chad Rinehardt was solid. I would love to see Horton make the squad, he looks like a keeper and is a hitter, kudos to Vinny. I know is only one exhibition game but it's a start.[/quote]
Horton will definitely make the squad with safeties that we have on the roster. LaRon Landry is the only sure thing at safety that we have. Schweigert pretty much wins the backup FS position by default, since he is really the only other FS that we have on the roster. Doughty will probably start at SS. Fox and Horton will battle it out to backup or possibly start at SS. Kareem Moore supposedly has a lot of potential and he can play either safety position, but he has to get over his nagging knee injury.

Dirtbag59 08-03-2008 11:58 PM

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What about Matrell and Tryon? No love for the two rookie corners? Also what did you guys think of Gatewood (he was good ole #56)?

RMSkins 08-04-2008 12:03 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;461321]What about Matrell and Tryon? No love for the two rookie corners? Also what did you guys think of Gatewood (he was good ole #56)?[/quote]
I was impressed with with Richardson he threw down some solid coverage not to mention the pick six. Gatewood was solid from what I saw. Tryon really struggled at CB and as the PR tonight.

SFREDSKIN 08-04-2008 12:16 AM

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Forgot to mention Fincher our new LB, he made a couple of good plays late in the game.

NM Redskin 08-04-2008 12:26 AM

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What about Rob Jackson? Everywhere I read, he was a 7th rounder “not to expect too much from”. Guy looked good!

Also if Brooks keeps punting the way he did tonight … good bye Mr. Frost.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-04-2008 12:28 AM

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Tryon didn't do PR tonight Mann did Tryon did KR

skinsnut 08-04-2008 12:38 AM

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Tryon had probably the worst game of any player...not a good day...
But the good news is this.

This Skins tried last year to get a 3rd string QB with a late pick....and you know how that worked out....well...there is no question at this point...Brennan will make the team...
Horton will too....Brooks may as well...as far as the other 7 draft picks?
Rhinehart probably, Davis probably....and the 2 WR will be in....so that means 7 of 10 picks make it...thats fairly good....my only disapointment is Tryon because he was a high pick....bottom line....he sucked....really bad...but you gotta have someone fall through

That Guy 08-04-2008 12:39 AM

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hart's going to be good for indy.

as for us, horton probably just made the squad... i'd really like moore to show up and play so well that the skins are forced to cut SS, but we'll see what happens.

rob jackson looked good for 7th rounder, if we go 5 DEs 4 DTs this year he might make it, doubt it matters either way though.

davis will be fine, hopefully he can block too. can't wait to see our WRs.

brennan looks REAL good so far. he might have thrown a pick against a 1st team offense, but the accuracy was really on (for campbell too) and i think zorn is a beast of a QB coach, so i'm pretty happy about that.

coverage teams - terrible. returners - terrible. defense tonight - terrible between the 20s, reasonable in the red zone.

skinsnut 08-04-2008 12:42 AM

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Dont worry about special teams this early...they throw everyone under the sun in those units early in camp....many have never played special teams....that will jell as cuts are made....it also gives more levarage to getting another LB worth a crap...LB was our worst unit tonight....Dline was a close 2nd

RMSkins 08-04-2008 12:55 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;461328]Tryon didn't do PR tonight Mann did Tryon did KR[/quote]
Yeah I meant to say KR.

Skinny Tee 08-04-2008 12:58 AM

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Brooks did well punting. Especially the one that he got to stick on their 8 yard line

saden1 08-04-2008 01:13 AM

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What happened to Justin Tyson? He got abused today!

DIRTEE 08-04-2008 01:19 AM

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I thought the rookies did well. If they can maintain or improve on the things they did tonight, some could be moving up the depth chart. horton and jackson impressed me, never seen them play before and after being late draft picks, they showed me they can ball.

Redskin Warrior 08-04-2008 02:47 AM

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Horton and Brennan impressed me the most

Dirtbag59 08-04-2008 06:12 AM

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[quote=RMSkins;461323]I was impressed with with Richardson he threw down some solid coverage not to mention the pick six. Gatewood was solid from what I saw. Tryon really struggled at CB and as the PR tonight.[/quote]

Yeah, the good news is I saw Gatewood a lot but I wonder if that was because I was intrigued by the fact that a Redskin was wearing 56.

Disapointed to hear though that Tryon got beat up (my attention during the game went in and out during the second half). Tryon is actually one of Vinny's favorite guys which would explain why he passed up Dre Moore to draft him. Hopefully he gets his stuff together and ends up being a poor mans Tye Hill (like NFL.com promised in his draft profile).

However Rob Jackson, Chris Horton, Colt Brennan, Fred Davis, Chad Rhinehart. After tonight thats looking like a good draft. Can't wait to see Kelly and Thomas. However at this rate I'd be surprised if we see Moore play. I feel like they're going to put him on IR for some reason.

That Guy 08-04-2008 07:32 AM

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dre moore >>> tryon.

rypper11 08-04-2008 07:49 AM

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I was big on Rhinehart in April and now I'm even more impressed by him. Tryon proved that he can talk but that is about it. I was really impressed by JC (I know he isn't a rookie) and Colt but Collins looked shaky. Horton's head's up play on the opening kickoff after Khary flubbed the kick was great and he played solid D all night. If Rob Jackson keeps playing well he can probably pass Wilson and Evans on the depth chart. I'd be surprised though if he doesn't develop an injury that will force him onto IR before the 4th preseason game.

SC Skins Fan 08-04-2008 08:23 AM

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Glad people aren't getting carried away and making too many conclusions based on the HOF game.

Soup's Uncle 08-04-2008 08:36 AM

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Colt Brennan looked awesome. Hopefully he'll become a solid back up after Todd Collins is gone.

marius 08-04-2008 09:38 AM

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[QUOTE=SC Skins Fan;461373]Glad people aren't getting carried away and making too many conclusions based on the HOF game.[/QUOTE]

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE SUPERBOWL AND COLT BRENNAN IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN THE GENETICALLY ENGINEERED OFFSPRING OF JOE MONTANA AND DAN MARINO OHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!!! CALL THE SEASON OFF NOW AS IT IS AS GOOD AS CERTAIN!

MTK 08-04-2008 09:47 AM

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;461373]Glad people aren't getting carried away and making too many conclusions based on the HOF game.[/quote]

lol I'm thinking the same thing, but it's our first taste of real football in a long time.

vallin21 08-04-2008 09:50 AM

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I like what I saw out of Horton. he has some potential

Rajmahal33 08-04-2008 10:00 AM

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I'm surprised more ppl aren't talking about Mason, even though he is not a rookie. I think he played pretty hard, and though our RB position is pretty solid, i think he is worth taking a look at. He was pounding it up the gut like we have needed in the past and I think the Gibbs/Bugel rushing offense is tailored for his skills set.

One thing irks me about Rock Cartwright...he is a great, scrappy player with many rare intangibles qualities but he does NOT have a nose for the line to gain (1st down/goal line/etc). He likes to bounce it out too much and spends way too much time on his cutbacks. It's really starting to piss me off to have to watch him dance around the line of scrimmage instead of getting positive yardage. I almost wanna say that we should keep him for strictly special team activities.

GATEKEEPER 08-04-2008 10:08 AM

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I liked Horton and Brennen, but they were playing against scrubs. Promising, yes, but far from being put on the next HOF ballots. Matt's right though, it's nice to see something to look forward to.

PSUSkinsFan21 08-04-2008 10:10 AM

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I'm mostly just impressed with the way the team played as a whole. Very few mistakes, very few stupid penalties, the offense was able to move the ball, and the defense clamped down in the redzone. It was just the first preseason game and we played a Colts team that was missing a ton of starters (including probably the best QB in the league), but I'm encouraged by how we played as a whole. Davis made some great cathches, Colt made some great throws, Horton was all over the place, and Rinehart was impressive. So overall, there's some reason to be high on our rookies right now. For me, I'm just glad we didn't come out looking completely inept like we often have in recent years past in the preseason.

bertoskins2 08-04-2008 10:10 AM

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horton brennan & brook s

Daseal 08-04-2008 10:15 AM

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The fact is, our backups are far better than the Colts backups. That is something important to me. Also, we're seeing rookies play, we're not expecting these guys to make our team. But preseason football counts. We played very clean and solid football, especially offensively and we got to see tons of players. The score and stats don't matter in preseason, but if we see flags flying constantly, or just pure confusion all over the field, we're in trouble. We didn't see much of that at all which is a great site.

I was impressed, like everyone else, with Horton, Colt, Rob Jackson, etc. As usual, Marcus Mason had another great game in the preseason. I wouldn't be surprised if a team thin at RB stole him off our PS this year. Tryon made some mistakes, but I still hope he makes the team. And he had a few good plays, though he had far more bad ones. Maybe it's me, but I was not impressed with Gatewood at all, he seemed kinda... scared to me.

firstdown 08-04-2008 10:16 AM

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[quote=Rajmahal33;461394]I'm surprised more ppl aren't talking about Mason, even though he is not a rookie. I think he played pretty hard, and though our RB position is pretty solid, i think he is worth taking a look at. He was pounding it up the gut like we have needed in the past and I think the Gibbs/Bugel rushing offense is tailored for his skills set.

One thing irks me about Rock Cartwright...he is a great, scrappy player with many rare intangibles qualities but he does NOT have a nose for the line to gain (1st down/goal line/etc). He likes to bounce it out too much and spends way too much time on his cutbacks. It's really starting to piss me off to have to watch him dance around the line of scrimmage instead of getting positive yardage. I almost wanna say that we should keep him for strictly special team activities.[/quote]
Cartwright when asked plays well coming in as a 3rd string Rb. Last night he averaged around 4.7 yards per play and is around 4.5 career average. He is not a bounder of the ball so he has to find the open lanes. So if averaging 4.5 is not positive yards then I guess your right.

GATEKEEPER 08-04-2008 10:19 AM

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;461396]I'm mostly just impressed with the way the team played as a whole. Very few mistakes, very few stupid penalties, the offense was able to move the ball, and the defense clamped down in the redzone.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. Sometimes it was almost embarassing to watch some of the Skins mistakes in recent years. This is a legendary team with a proud past, and it will be nice to see them play like it, week after week. Not a bunch of overpriced "has-beens" tripping over each other to see who can screw up worse. Let's hope Zorn is a step in the right direction.

hail_2_da_skins 08-04-2008 10:23 AM

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Very impressive pre-season game. First of all, there were no major injuries. Secondly, both units performed admirably without a lot penalties, which indicates that the team was well prepared. With a new head coach and offensive philosophy, I was very impressed with the offense's ability to move the ball, both on the ground and in the air. All of the quarterbacks were productive, especially Jason Campbell and Colt Bennan. Since it's pre-season, I can't get too excited, but I am very encouraged by the performance. Zorn passed his first test and it makes me want to see more.

crlesh 08-04-2008 10:36 AM

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I was impressed by our rookie Head Coach. He remained composed throughout the game, and as someone else mentioned, there did not appear to be the confusion on the field that we've gotten used to over the last decade or so - hope that sticks. Zorn seems to have a clear plan, and the players are executing, whether they're 1st string or 3rd string. What else can you expect from a head coach? I'm excited to see more!

over the mountain 08-04-2008 11:41 AM

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good read from everyone. thank you

to add to the list:

mike hart (colts) - dont know why he was drafted so late for a guy who excelled in a big program. i understand colt brennan going in the 6th because of his side arm throw and playing in hawaii but can someone tell me why hart wasnt picked up till the 6th? is it because of his size and people not believing he could take an NFL pounding?

go skins!

rugged d 08-04-2008 11:49 AM

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i was impressed with fred davis he and cooley are gonna really tear it up undereath he is a bigger target ( SIZEWISE) than cooley and looks more athletic

GhettoDogAllStars 08-04-2008 12:27 PM

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[QUOTE=Daseal;461398]The fact is, our backups are far better than the Colts backups. That is something important to me. Also, we're seeing rookies play, we're not expecting these guys to make our team. But preseason football counts. We played very clean and solid football, especially offensively and we got to see tons of players. The score and stats don't matter in preseason, but if we see flags flying constantly, or just pure confusion all over the field, we're in trouble. We didn't see much of that at all which is a great site.

I was impressed, like everyone else, with Horton, Colt, Rob Jackson, etc. As usual, Marcus Mason had another great game in the preseason. I wouldn't be surprised if a team thin at RB stole him off our PS this year. Tryon made some mistakes, but I still hope he makes the team. And he had a few good plays, though he had far more bad ones. Maybe it's me, but I was not impressed with Gatewood at all, he seemed kinda... scared to me.[/QUOTE]

One possibility is to have Rock backup Sellers at FB, and keep Mason on our active roster as the #3 RB. I'm not sure if Rock could handle FB duties, but I seem to remember him at that position four or five years ago.

freddyg12 08-04-2008 12:48 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;461453]One possibility is to have Rock backup Sellers at FB, and keep Mason on our active roster as the #3 RB. I'm not sure if Rock could handle FB duties, but I seem to remember him at that position four or five years ago.[/quote]

he played fb for the ole ball coach, then lost weight to play tb for Gibbs. I've thought about that too. He lacks size to be a crushing fb like sellers. He doesn't have a future as a #1 or #2 tailback in the nfl, he lacks speed, but he's a football player & would work hard to be a good fb. I think his size hurts his chances though.


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