Tony Brackens... is he worth a roster spot?
 

He was released by the Jags and could come pretty cheap. To me, even in a rotation, would be nice to have on the roster. At worst he is average and can come in as a long yardage pass rusher to give a starter a break. At best, he recovers and is a real pass rushing threat and bolsters the defensive line, which makes Arrington and Washington's job that much easier.

What do ya think? Should Gibbs bring him in? Give him a shot?

I don't see the harm in giving him a shot

[B]ABSOLUTLY![/B]

I've lived in Jacksonville since 1995 and have seen T. Brak since he was drafted. This guy when health can completly take over a game. I realize that he has had a history of injuries resently but our potential gain well out ways the investment. He is a quality guy that will be great in the locker room and on the field. Even if you only use him in spot duty they way they used Jumpy Gathers in the early 90's. It would give the opposing offense one more thing to worry about on 3rd down.

I say sign him before someone else does. :thumb:

he got injured this preseason, so he isnt 100%

I got the impression for the press statement he hasn't gotten over his existing knee problems. The last operation he had is apparently viewed as the last resort and if he can't come back after that, he's done.

Question is did his coaches think he wasn't recovering or did they simply not have the time to let him recover?

he's done

If they could get him on the vet minimum I would say bring him in! definately.

I say give him a shot hell if he can play spot duty it would be good the guy is flat out nasty. Talk about penetration this guy used to intercept passes from the d-line. amazing

[QUOTE=joethiesmanfan]I say give him a shot hell if he can play spot duty it would be good the guy is flat out nasty. Talk about penetration this guy used to intercept passes from the d-line. amazing[/QUOTE]

Operative words there are "used to". The guy is washed up. Period. According to the report I saw, he had issues with he knee that have not healed up. We might as well sign Bruce back if we're that desperate.

his injury this pre season had nothing to do with his knee, it was a torn calf muscle, so he isnt "done", they just couldnt evaluate him cuz he wasnt on the field at all,kinda like ladell betts here

I think Gibbs and Williams are pretty happy with what we have now. Our pass rush has looked better in the preseason, so I think we'll be ok. Plus, Brackens isn't 100%.....so,why add a player who can't come in and contribute right away?

I say him bring in for a physical and let the real doctors decide if he has anything left. If his knees are ok then see if he is willing to sign him to the vet min. and make him a third down specialist. That will help our pass rush and extend his career.

Who would we cut to give this broken down DE a spot?

I'd rather roll with what we've got and not pick through other's trash.

Like someone already said, we could bring back Smith if we want an old, washed up DE.

If its VERY cheap, what the hey , give em' a shot. Personally, I"m not that dissapointed with how our dline has played thusfar. We have had a couple decent surpises in Warner and Sa'alve , and if I'm not mistaken, Dainels hasent even played yet. I mean were not gonna be the Panthers or anything, but I still think were gonna be soild with what we have.

Can't hurt giving him a look at. :grouphug:

Here are his career stats. They're actually not that bad, but like I said he isn't 100%.

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?statsId=3533[/url]

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Who would we cut to give this broken down DE a spot?

I'd rather roll with what we've got and not pick through other's trash.

Like someone already said, we could bring back Smith if we want an old, washed up DE.[/QUOTE]

In the 90's, Gibbs took a chance on an older D-lineman with a history of bad knee's: Jumpy Geathers. Jumpy ended up being a valuable contributer to the 92 super bowl team. He played as a 3rd down situational pass rusher only. His knees were so bad he could not practice during the week. The coaches were scared of losing him everytime he went out on the field, so they did not let him practice to much.

Brackens is just 30, I am not sure it is fair to compare him to a 40 Bruce Smith just yet. Unless Brackens knee's or any other essential limb is blown out, he might be able to be a good part time player, like Jumpy. We have to many run specialist DE's on our roster. We need at least one more DE that is a pass rush specialist. IF (and only if) Brackens passes an extensive physical, he might be worth a look.

We could always cut Ade Jimoh

we have enough 'veteran' pass rushers at the tail end of their careers, another one won't increase our sack total. we know who to call if one gets hurt though.

next season we need the best PROVEN youngish free agent DE available. period. a high draft pick is no guarantee. anyone know who's contract is up?

Whats up with Jermaine Haley? He's been quiet throughout the preseason. Has he even played?

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]We could always cut Ade Jimoh[/QUOTE]

No, we WILL cut Ade Jimoh.

chgeck out his 1999 season
12 sacks, 2 INT, and 8 FORCED FUMBLES, christ that is monsterous

too bad it was 5 years ago...

Brackens is injured RIGHT NOW. He hasn't been able to prctice with the Jags. That doesn't sound like a guy Gibbs would snap up. I think Williams feels pretty good about the D, but you never know...

Might as well give him a look.....you never know.

just stating a fact, not reason to sign him, but 8 FF is unheard of

Brackens has had some great seasons, but he tore his calf muscle this summer had his right knee scoped (again) this past off season and had his left knee surgically repaired before last season...given the status of the Jags d-line I would imagine they have been hoping to bring him back, but it looks like he's done.

Is he worth a roster spot?

In a word:


NO !!!

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]No, we WILL cut Ade Jimoh.[/QUOTE]

Ade can rush the Passer! In kazahkastan, Jimoh means "bring the heat."

[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Ade can rush the Passer! In kazahkastan, Jimoh means "bring the heat."[/QUOTE]


LOL!!

[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Ade can rush the Passer! In kazahkastan, Jimoh means "bring the heat."[/QUOTE]

LOL! About time you show'd your boy some love!!! I was worried you had jumped ship. ;)

haha, ok so ade at starting end it is...

On a more serious note, I woulndt even try him out. For the first time in years it acutally looks like our defense is playing as a team, and Id personally for once like to just keep the team and let them learn to play together.

we all know how gibbs feels about durabilty and besides I would like to see a line of realative knownamers become a solid unit. I'm kinda sick of being a dumping ground for old vets.

Must get rid of Jimoh.

ade...so...shitty...must...cut...forever

[QUOTE=Big C]ade...so...shitty...must...cut...forever[/QUOTE]


You guys are too harsh on ol' Ade. He still has a lot to offer the Skins:

1) Who mixes the gatorade powder for practice to a perfect lemon-lime consistency? Ade does.

2) Who scrubs that nasty fungus off the shower walls in the locker room? Not LaVar... Ade does.

3) Who is the fastest player on the team when it comes to chasing down shank balls during field goal practice? Ade is!

4) Have you seen Ade's TD celebration dance? It kicks ass - like MC Hammer on crack. If Ade is cut, you may never get to see it - ask yourself if you are ok with that!

5) After LaVar put shaving cream in Sean Taylor's eye as a prank, guess who took charge and flushed out Sean's eyes and held his hand through eye-rehab? He also helped move Sean's crib so that he could get back to the rookie symposium - now that's a team player!

SO - if you are prepared to cut Ade loose, just remember - these things will leave the clubhouse with him. I'm not sure Joe Gibbs or the Redskins will be able to overcome such a devastating hit this late in the preseason.

lol

well hire him as the waterboy, dont give him a jersey thats all i ask, but id prefer to never see him again

The biggest reason Brackens was released is the play of DE Paul Spicer, a very underrated DE. As for the injury to the back of his knee, according to the Jaguars team doctors it is a pulled muscle behind the knee. The Jaguars have one of the best young D-Lines in the NFL, they simply felt he would not get much playing time. If he can pass a physical he would be the best DE on our team even at 30 years old.

[QUOTE=Big C]well hire him as the waterboy, dont give him a jersey thats all i ask, but id prefer to never see him again[/QUOTE]

do I even need to make the reference about how good of a football player 'The Waterboy' can turn out to be?!?! lol