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SmootSmack 08-09-2008 12:39 PM

Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3526489]ESPN - Source: Pennington gets two-year, $11.5M deal with Dolphins - NFL[/url]

MTK 08-09-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Good fit for them until Henne is ready.

saden1 08-09-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
$5.75 a year for a disabled QB? I don't get it!

Raw0114 08-09-2008 01:20 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Pennington is considered a Vet. And after ny told him to get the Favre out, it was only a matter of time before someone picked him up. Besides something about miami has to be interesting enough to write about. Besides losing Taylor to the Greatest Team in the World! (IMO) So good for maimi, now they just have to focus on winning more than 1 game! HTTR!!!

Paintrain 08-09-2008 02:05 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Week One NYJ @ Miami just got that much more interesting. Go Dolphins.

That Guy 08-09-2008 03:27 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
out of the teams involved in the brett favre trade, miami made out the best.

GB looks like a sack of rotting a$$holes
the jets overpaid to put a good QB in a new system at 39 years old that may walk away
miami gets a starting QB for up to 5 years, or until the rookie is ready...

and yeah, pennington is noodle armed, but he's still a lot better than what they had, and i do believe henne will eventually be better, but in the meantime this'll get parcells instant results (Which is a big thing with him).

ChillWill 08-09-2008 04:20 PM

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This is too much money for what Pennington brings to the table. I'm not impressed with the Tuna.

Dirtbag59 08-09-2008 05:29 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Lol, my friend, whos a Dolphins fan, use to always to debate me about weather or not Pennington was a Pro Bowl caliber QB (which for a certain amount of time he was) now he has him on his team (keep in mind I was arguing in favor of Pennington).

htownskinfan 08-09-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
I can not believe the dolphins signed him,especially that much money and to be a starter,why not go after Favre if you wanted a qb? I've always liked Pennington,but I thought with his noodle arm that he would have been lucky to find a backup job somewhere,boy was I wrong

Dirtbag59 08-09-2008 07:51 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[quote=htownskinfan;463058]I can not believe the dolphins signed him,especially that much money and to be a starter,why not go after Favre if you wanted a qb? I've always liked Pennington,but I thought with his noodle arm that he would have been lucky to find a backup job somewhere,boy was I wrong[/quote]


As far as Farve, Pennington, and the Dolphins are concerned.

1. One of the main factors in completing a Farve trade was Farves willingness to be traded to the team involved in a trade with the Packers. A team like the Dolphins who are now in complete rebuilding mode is not something Farve would have agreed to.

2. The Dolphins have lots of cap room and Pennington can still play quality football. I mean the guy came out of last year with an 86.1 QB rating last year and in a very scarce QB market (which includes QB's already on rosters) theres a premnium on decent QB play.

3. Miami is not like New York in terms of wind speed, with the exception of hurricane season.

I will say Pennington is no longer a pro bowl QB but for a team like the Dolphins I think he's a very good fit. In fact I think an accurate QB like Pennington is perfect for taking advantage of the YAC ability that a reciever like Ginn comes with. I will also say though that he's better then Josh McCown (who somehow always seems to find a job) and it'll give Chad Henne time to develop. Dis r low rick hi rewards.

skinsfan69 08-09-2008 11:23 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
If they're paying him that much I guess that means he's starting. I guess it also means that the guy from BYU is history.

GTripp0012 08-09-2008 11:26 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[quote=htownskinfan;463058]I can not believe the dolphins signed him,especially that much money and to be a starter,why not go after Favre if you wanted a qb? I've always liked Pennington,but I thought with his noodle arm that he would have been lucky to find a backup job somewhere,boy was I wrong[/quote]Favre is exactly who you don't want in a rebuilding effort. Pennington can accellerate the effort more than Josh McCown would. He's not high profile enough to block Chad Henne's development. Favre seems to block everyones development.

The other thing, is that Pennington came free of picks and at a price the Dolphins set. Favre would have cost a pick, and Parcells likely didn't want to deal with the sideshow. He never does.

hagams 08-09-2008 11:30 PM

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My wife is so freaking pissed at the dolphins right now. She used to always say, "at least they still have my other husbands (Thomas, Taylor) on the team". Now they are both gone, and they are getting Pennington for a QB. I'm going to love football season this year!!! HTTR

djnemo65 08-10-2008 01:53 AM

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The money is commensurate with what middling starting qb's get. You know, I never get it when people freak about teams "overpaying" when they are under the cap. Are people really that concerned about the owners' money? Because with a short term, no risk deal like this, which will never really impact the salary cap, that is the only real consideration.

Cowell 08-10-2008 01:57 AM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
I guess you can remove any deep routes or hail marys from their playbook.
But in all seriousness, this is actually a good pickup for them. He gives them a better chance to succeed than any other qb on their roster.

HateNMyEyez 08-10-2008 10:58 AM

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it doesnt matter hes not gonna help that team much. Dolphins havent exactly done anything to better there team.

That Guy 08-10-2008 01:24 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[quote=HateNMyEyez;463255]it doesnt matter hes not gonna help that team much. Dolphins havent exactly done anything to better there team.[/quote]

besides ditching taylor, they really have... great draft (henne, long, merling, etc), and they signed a ton of depth/solid starter types (very cheaply)...

i mean, they won't be great, but they are a better team.

dmek25 08-10-2008 03:49 PM

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Pennington is a major upgrade of all the stiffs Miami started at qback last season. even with a noodle arm, and injury issues. to me, money well spent

RMSkins 08-10-2008 04:59 PM

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Good move by the Dolphins. They needed somebody, because Beck, Henne, and McCown aren't going to be doing anything special this season, not that Pennington will but he's an upgrade.

Ruhskins 08-10-2008 07:28 PM

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Agreed, Pennington is a huge upgrade given the QB situation in Miami. This is a good move that Parcells made, and it gives Henne time to develop. Maybe the AFC East won't be so crappy this year.

SmootSmack 08-10-2008 07:32 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
I can tell you what the Dolphins' playbook will be this year

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington pass incomplete
Punt

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ronnie Brown
Punt

and so on

htownskinfan 08-10-2008 07:38 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;463386]I can tell you what the Dolphins' playbook will be this year

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington pass incomplete
Punt

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ronnie Brown
Punt

and so on[/QUOTE]]

I had forgot that pothead was back on the team,he did look good in some highlights i saw of him though

Ruhskins 08-10-2008 07:38 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;463386]I can tell you what the Dolphins' playbook will be this year

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington pass incomplete
Punt

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ronnie Brown
Punt

and so on[/QUOTE]

Hey if I'm a Dolphin fan I would find this better than Beck/Henne/McCown.

MTK 08-10-2008 09:57 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[quote=SmootSmack;463386]I can tell you what the Dolphins' playbook will be this year

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington pass incomplete
Punt

Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ricky Williams
Pennington hands off to Ronnie Brown
Punt

and so on[/quote]

Regardless of who is at QB that should be their game plan. They're not going to beat anyone through the air as it is. Might as well pound that rock.

KLHJ2 08-11-2008 08:04 AM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
He was scheduled to make 6 Mil this year in NY and he signed for 11.5 over 2. He signed for below market value for a veteran starter, and below what he would have made in NY. He didn't even get an annual raise for inflation. My guess is that he was depending on that 6 Mil this year and it was removed from beneath his feet. Parcells, while many think he overpaid for Chad, probably just met Chad's needs and underpaid for a veteran starting QB (according to market value).

firstdown 08-11-2008 12:16 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Parcells drafted him back in his NYJ days so he knows what he is getting. Say what you want about Parcells but he does seem to turn teams around.

skinsfan69 08-11-2008 12:23 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[quote=Mattyk72;463418]Regardless of who is at QB that should be their game plan. They're not going to beat anyone through the air as it is. Might as well pound that rock.[/quote]

Pennington's WR's are Ted Ginn, Hagan and the big slow dude from Jacksonville who went to Va Tech. Outside of SF, Miami could have the worst passing game in the NFL. But I remember Hagan when he was at Ariz St. and he was a freaking animal. I thought he was going to be a stud in the pros.

DirtyLandry 08-11-2008 12:26 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Pennington is still a good QB anyone who disagrees is just a casual observer of the game.

Stuck in TX 08-11-2008 12:50 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;463207]Favre is exactly who you don't want in a rebuilding effort. Pennington can accellerate the effort more than Josh McCown would. He's not high profile enough to block Chad Henne's development. Favre seems to block everyones development.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. Favre has had at least two very reliable, and multi-playoff QB's come right out from under him. Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Brunell both went to the Playoffs multiple years, and Hasselbeck went to a Super Bowl. Kellen Clemons has the potential to be a franchise QB and take the Jets many places, especially given their recent additons to the offense. They are a good draft away from being Super Bowl contenders already with Favre at the helm. If they are indeed "rebuilding", Clemons should come out after Favre's short reign swinging for the fences. He just needs to pay attention and take advantage of the experienced mentor that Mangini went out and got for him.

As far as the 'Phins go, Pennington is an upgrade, but I really think that Tuna wants to look like he is trying to improve, all the while thinking about next years draft spot high atop the board.

MPNRedskins 08-12-2008 05:49 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
Hopefully, he will do well in Miami. He still is a good QB, but doesn't compare to Favre's numbers.

GTripp0012 08-12-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Pennington to the Dolphins
 
[quote=Stuck in TX;463555]I disagree. Favre has had at least two very reliable, and multi-playoff QB's come right out from under him. Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Brunell both went to the Playoffs multiple years, and Hasselbeck went to a Super Bowl. Kellen Clemons has the potential to be a franchise QB and take the Jets many places, especially given their recent additons to the offense. They are a good draft away from being Super Bowl contenders already with Favre at the helm. If they are indeed "rebuilding", Clemons should come out after Favre's short reign swinging for the fences. He just needs to pay attention and take advantage of the experienced mentor that Mangini went out and got for him.[/quote]Do you think that was Favre, or do you think that was Ron Wolf and Mike Holmgren finding great west coast QBs in the late rounds?

I think, re: Clemens, that he's got a lot of talent, but Favre has nothing to do with whether he reaches it or not. Favre is simply blocking him from playing.


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