Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

Just wondering if anybody actually took the notion seriously that the native americans have cursed the redskins in the past 10 plus years...
lame thread i know but some spooky things have happened..

1. we get the best defensive player in the league and he passes away (RIP)
2. players that have been superstars elsewhere have been complacent here.
3. limited playoff appearances, with no sucess
4. spurrier "5-11 not very good"
5. our never ending qb carousel.
6. cap problems
7. injuries sometimes in a freakish manner when it appears we are n the cusp.

i could go on and on.
should we repent?

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[QUOTE=doughtydoubter;468595]Just wondering if anybody actually took the notion seriously that the native americans have cursed the redskins in the past 10 plus years...
[B]lame thread i know[/B] but some spooky things have happened..

1. we get the best defensive player in the league and he passes away (RIP)
2. players that have been superstars elsewhere have been complacent here.
3. limited playoff appearances, with no sucess
4. spurrier "5-11 not very good"
5. our never ending qb carousel.
6. cap problems
7. injuries sometimes in a freakish manner when it appears we are n the cusp.

i could go on and on.
should we repent?[/QUOTE]


Pretty much sums it up.

Re: Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

Saying it's a curse is taking the easy way out. There are plenty of logical reasons to explain everything raised above.

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ive met some people that really take this seriously. Im sure there are logical reasons for everything in this world. It may be the painkillers im on today. i was just curious to know if there was anybody on this site that really believes that the native americans did that.
But geezzz....
i just want to feel some love in this area again..we cant hang on to the glorious 80s forever here.

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With all due respect to Mr. Taylor, he was not the best defensive player in the league. He could have been one day, but we'll never know.

There is no curse. We've had a run of about 10 years w/ a bad FO making bad decisions.

Lot's of other teams that don't have Brady, Manning, McNabb, Roth, or Favre have had a QB carousel like we've had.

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Other then number one, most teams if not all have similar problems. IT is overcoming that makes us/them champions. Plus you need to define sucess, winning the Super Bowl is a very rare thing. For us to have done it three times regardless of how long ago is a real testament.

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[url=http://www.thisisby.us/index.php/content/the_curse_of_the_redskins]thisisby.us - The Curse of the Redskins, by moreanonymous[/url]

just for reading purposes

Re: Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

[quote=doughtydoubter;468595]Just wondering if anybody actually took the notion seriously that the native americans have cursed the redskins in the past 10 plus years...
lame thread i know but some spooky things have happened..

1. we get the best defensive player in the league and he passes away (RIP)
2. players that have been superstars elsewhere have been complacent here.
3. limited playoff appearances, with no sucess
4. spurrier "5-11 not very good"
5. our never ending qb carousel.
6. cap problems
7. injuries sometimes in a freakish manner when it appears we are n the cusp.

i could go on and on.
should we repent?[/quote]
So what is this native amercan curse.
Where was this curse back in the 80's (comes and goes as we perform)
How about a Snyder curse?
JFK curse maybe?
Dang I even responded to this thread is maybe a curse on me.

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when have we ever had cap problems?

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I would call this a pessimist's point of view. The optimist's point of view would be.

1. Making the playoffs 3 years in a row when so-called "experts" forecast otherwise.
2. Overcoming the adversity of losing Sean Taylor, and going on a winning streak with a backup QB to make the post season.
3. Still remaining extremely competetive is the toughest division in the NFL despite all the nagging injuries that would hamper any other team in the league.
4. Having player WILLING to restructure to help the teams cap rather than "test free agency" because they have another agenda.

I could go on and on, but there is always more than one way to address adversity. Either it is positive or negative, the choice is yours.

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Don't believe in it. It's Norv Turners fault.

Re: Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

[quote=doughtydoubter;468595]Just wondering if anybody actually took the notion seriously that the native americans have cursed the redskins in the past 10 plus years...
lame thread i know but some spooky things have happened..

1. we get the best defensive player in the league and he passes away (RIP)
2. players that have been superstars elsewhere have been complacent here.
3. limited playoff appearances, with no sucess
4. spurrier "5-11 not very good"
5. our never ending qb carousel.
6. cap problems
7. injuries sometimes in a freakish manner when it appears we are n the cusp.

i could go on and on.
should we repent?[/quote]

Unless Dan Snyder is Native American we aren't under an Indian curse.

All of the things that you mentioned have taken place under the Dan Snyder reign. The most influential variable that has taken place in the last ten years is the change of ownership.

I'm not knocking Snyder. I don't mind our franchise's course right now, but everything you mentioned except ST has some underlying effect from the heirarchy above. Snyder maybe met some bumps in the road but it's certainly not attributed to a Indian curse.

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If you know you are starting a lame thread why do so?

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Yea I curse everytime we loose a game or make a bad play.

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[quote=mredskins;468620]If you know you are starting a lame thread why do so?[/quote]

Maybe he's cursed?

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possibly...my fiance is yelling at me to do soemthing other than post on here all day...but "its almost redskins season!" i yell in return.
"you wont be watching ANY games at this point!"
sigh.....cursed indeed..its a good thing shes so damn hot.

Re: Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

I think we are 1/2 cursed, because we always seem to play the first half great and throw it in entering the third quarter.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;468612]I would call this a pessimist's point of view. The optimist's point of view would be.

1. Making the playoffs 3 years in a row when so-called "experts" forecast otherwise.
2. Overcoming the adversity of losing Sean Taylor, and going on a winning streak with a backup QB to make the post season.
3. Still remaining extremely competetive is the toughest division in the NFL despite all the nagging injuries that would hamper any other team in the league.
4. Having player WILLING to restructure to help the teams cap rather than "test free agency" because they have another agenda.

I could go on and on, but there is always more than one way to address adversity. Either it is positive or negative, the choice is yours.[/QUOTE]

Well put

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If anyone is cursed its the Falcons.

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Man sandtrap makes it hard to hate him. Lol good response nuff said. Go skins

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I'm starting to believe...

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Thread hell?

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[quote=Smooter;468873]Thread hell?[/quote]

I'm with you...I suspect before too much longer this dog of a thread is going to be dragged out back and shot...

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Threat Hell, because if this doesn't qualify.........:doh:

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It's not a curse. The Redskins are not a good organization. We have had to overcome Snyder's impetuousnesses and are now, hopefully, building on the future. However, watching Zorn in the past two games has me wondering if Snyder made another bad decision.

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[QUOTE=Jacobylookalike;469010]It's not a curse. The Redskins are not a good organization. We have had to overcome Snyder's impetuousnesses and are now, hopefully, building on the future. However, watching Zorn in the past two games has me wondering if Snyder made another bad decision.[/QUOTE]

In one sentence you talk about overcoming Snyder's impetuousnesses and then in the next you question Zorn after two preseason games?

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[QUOTE=WaldSkins;468635]I think we are 1/2 cursed, because we always seem to play the first half great and throw it in entering the third quarter.[/QUOTE]

Or we have a few good games at the beginning of the season, stink it up in the middle of the season, and have to sweat it at the end trying to get a wildcard spot....although we'll be lucky if this scenario happens this year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;469013]In one sentence you talk about overcoming Snyder's impetuousnesses and then in the next you question Zorn after two preseason games?[/quote]


I think its way to early to question Snyder's choice of coach in Jim Zorn. I dont believe we are cursed but I do think our owner early on in his tenure as owner made some really bad decisions but I think with the last 4 years of influence by Joe Gibbs we are on the right track. Going to the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years says alot especially when all the "so-called" experts left us for dead.

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The Monday Night Miracle, Troy Vincent's FG block, Campbell to Cooley versus Carolina, and Brunell to Moss versus JAX are all testaments that we are clearly not cursed.

I can not believe I just participated in this discussion, but now that I'm in I am committed.

Re: Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

The Redskins suffer from the curse of inconsistency. Always have and probably always will.

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ahh but a curse is a curse m'lady..(bows graciously)

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[quote=Lady Brave;469094]The Redskins suffer from the curse of inconsistency. Always have and probably always will.[/quote]

They need a true leader, and they don't have one... they haven't had one for years.

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[quote=hesscl34;469099]They need a true leader, and they don't have one... they haven't had one for years.[/quote]

How about Gibbs?

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[quote=Mattyk72;469117]How about Gibbs?[/quote]

Gibbs wasn't on the field.

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Sorry - no curse. Injuries are an unpredictable part of the game and poor gametime performance is just that.

My mother can claim Cherokee Nation (Eastern Band) heritage but I'm only 1/64th Cherokee and therefore have no claim. I called her up in North Carolina and asked her about the curse - she just laughed. She did say Go 'Skins.

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Mods - to thread hell and step on it.

One of the most storied franchises in league history, and now there's a curse? Give me a break. 3 Super Bowl Wins + 2 NFL Championships in 10 appearances. Players like Baugh, Taylor, Mitchell (both), Jurgensen, Huff, Kilmer, Brown, Krause, Green, Monk, Theismann, Mann, Coleman, Butz...coaches like Flaherty, Lambeau, Graham, Lombardi, Allen, Gibbs.

All franchises have their ups and downs, and some can't ever seem to get it together. But the Redskins certainly aren't cursed by any means...

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[quote=Jacobylookalike;469010]It's not a curse. The Redskins are not a good organization. We have had to overcome Snyder's impetuousnesses and are now, hopefully, building on the future. However, watching Zorn in the past two games has me wondering if Snyder made another bad decision.[/quote]
Wasn't there some coach here a while back who many questioned why JKC hired him, he opened his tenure at 0-5 (regular season games), the fans and media were calling for his head, and ultimately that situation turned out pretty good.....

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dude if zorn repeats what gibbs does ill be amazed..im not saying he wont be good.
but i think it will take alot more time. Hes got to get the players to "fight their guts out" for him first..probably the only good thing about maybe williams getting the job over him..the players immensely respected and would go to war for him...with zorn it remains to be seen

Re: Does anybody believe in the "Redskins curse"?
 

[quote=doughtydoubter;469312]dude if zorn repeats what gibbs does ill be amazed..im not saying he wont be good.
but i think it will take alot more time. Hes got to get the players to "fight their guts out" for him first..probably the only good thing about maybe williams getting the job over him..the players immensely respected and would go to war for him...with zorn it remains to be seen[/quote]


Seeing Williams talk to Kelly after the game last night made me cry.. :( I really think Snyder messed up there and Williams should be our coach... :(

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dude i think williams would have bothced the job...he is too martyesque...hes a good guy, i love him to death..but we need somebody young, and exciting that can grow with this team