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I guess I'll be the optimist (or idiot depending on perspective) to try to prop up the sky from falling, but it's one game. There is really no shame in going into the home of the defending champs on opening night and losing a hard fought game. For those of you that thought we 'got dominated' the whole game, from the mid 2nd quarter on we stood toe to toe and didn't give in. We put ourselves in a hole and didn't play well enough to get out.

The offense looked pathetic for the better part of the game and Zorn's playcalling was dubious at best. I'm glad it's September and not December. There's time to correct those errors. JC looked tentative and unsure early, but as he showed last year, the more he throws, the more comfortable and in rhythm he gets and good things happen.

On defense, we dropped 4 picks. Carlos Rogers simply has the worst hands I have ever seen on a human. I'd be terrified to let him hold a baby. Fletcher isn't going to last all season if he's gonna rack up 17 tackles a game, but that's one of the best OL we're going to see this season. The DL will improve in stopping the run which will lead to longer 3rd downs and more opportunities to get to the QB. Our field position all night (avg. start at our own 25 yd line) was crap, we need the defense to tilt the field in our favor.

I'm as pissed, disappointed and disgusted as any one of you, but I also realize we've got 15 more games and we're going to improve.

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[quote=Paintrain;472654]I guess I'll be the optimist (or idiot depending on perspective) to try to prop up the sky from falling, but it's one game. There is really no shame in going into the home of the defending champs on opening night and losing a hard fought game. For those of you that thought we 'got dominated' the whole game, from the mid 2nd quarter on we stood toe to toe and didn't give in. We put ourselves in a hole and didn't play well enough to get out.

The offense looked pathetic for the better part of the game and Zorn's playcalling was dubious at best. I'm glad it's September and not December. There's time to correct those errors. JC looked tentative and unsure early, but as he showed last year, the more he throws, the more comfortable and in rhythm he gets and good things happen.

On defense, we dropped 4 picks. Carlos Rogers simply has the worst hands I have ever seen on a human. I'd be terrified to let him hold a baby. Fletcher isn't going to last all season if he's gonna rack up 17 tackles a game, but that's one of the best OL we're going to see this season. The DL will improve in stopping the run which will lead to longer 3rd downs and more opportunities to get to the QB. Our field position all night (avg. start at our own 25 yd line) was crap, we need the defense to tilt the field in our favor.

I'm as pissed, disappointed and disgusted as any one of you, but I also realize we've got 15 more games and we're going to improve.[/quote]

Things that will get better when we get our 3 2nd rounders in the mix, Springs and Taylor healthy, learn to give the ball to Sellers on 3rd and short, pass the ball beyond the 1st down marker not below, manage the timeouts a little better. This things will make a big difference in my opinion.

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I was pissed with the first 28 minutes of the game, but over the last 32 minutes I think we did outplay the Giants. It didn't matter because we were trailing 16-0 and have an anemic offense (for the first time since 2004), but I think it's foolish to act like we didn't do anything right. We got beaten by a team that is much better than us on offense.

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Besides, as I said before if I were a Giants fan I'd be happy for the win but concerned for the inability to put the game away. So overall it wasn't a pretty game on both sides. The Redskins do not have a potent offense, had they had one they could have easily come back in that game. And for all those yards they racked up, in the end all they had to show for was a TD (ran by the QB) and three field goals. Which by the way, if a banged up defense can hold the Giants to a TD and 3 FGs, then I have hope that a healthy defense can do great things.

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It is one game. Thankfully, I'm relaxed. I'm not sold however that the Redskins can salvage this season, even after watching only 1 week. It was a total team melt down. From Zorn to Campbell to Heyer to Rogers to Randle El to Blache. Total team loss. Disappointing and no promising. Smoot had 1 INT but between him, Rogers and Landry dropped 4-5 possible others. That's nothing new. We are short at CB. Reed Doughty is not capable of playing as a starter. He tries hard, but misses tackles and is a decent cover man if he doesn't have to contest the offense. Need another safety. We don't have a #1 WR. Got a few #2's and a lot of #3's. Worst of all our D line let the Gmen run str8 up the middle. Repeatedly. And throw the ball whenever and wherever. All other teams will follow suit, just wait. Worse than Worst of all is our OL and JC. I've never been a fair weather, but I smell the sharks and buzzards. Clean house sooner than later and bring on the OFFICIAL POST JOE GIBBS ERA! If it's over, it's over,

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I wanted this game to end up with a w for the skins but it didn't. Zorn needs to get better with his play calling or else let Sherman smith call em'. j c as much as i like him needs to get rid of the ball faster. and Cooley needs to learn how to block, I saw at lest 4 plays where he got blown out ...we will get better... i did like the 2nd half a lot better than the first one defensively . first game jitters are now over

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[quote=Luxorreb;472669]It is one game. Thankfully, I'm relaxed. I'm not sold however that the Redskins can salvage this season, even after watching only 1 week. It was a total team melt down. From Zorn to Campbell to Heyer to Rogers to Randle El to Blache. Total team loss. Disappointing and no promising. Smoot had 1 INT but between him, Rogers and Landry dropped 4-5 possible others. That's nothing new. We are short at CB. Reed Doughty is not capable of playing as a starter. He tries hard, but misses tackles and is a decent cover man if he doesn't have to contest the offense. Need another safety. We don't have a #1 WR. Got a few #2's and a lot of #3's. Worst of all our D line let the Gmen run str8 up the middle. Repeatedly. And throw the ball whenever and wherever. All other teams will follow suit, just wait. Worse than Worst of all is our OL and JC. I've never been a fair weather, but I smell the sharks and buzzards. [b]Clean house sooner than later and bring on the OFFICIAL POST JOE GIBBS ERA![/b] If it's over, it's over,[/quote]
Sigh-the exact point of the original post.

IF Rogers had held onto one of those picks and returned it..
IF Rabach doesn't get blown past on the deep pass to Moss that JC had to avoid the sack and reload on..
IF the WR would have converted 2 or 3 of those first downs..
.. we wouldn't be having 90% of the panic running rampant on the board right now.. It's one game, against the defending champs, in their building, and we were 2 or 3 plays away from coming out ahead. You guys kill me.

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You know I have to say, although he loss is frustrating, the problems we saw all game I feel are kinks that can be straightened out throughout a season.

Stuff like: Penalties, reads, route running, tackling, play calling, protection schemes, time out management, etc.

It may seem weird but after watching this game I am truly MORE optimistic. I said we'd go 7-9 this season, I am just about willing to flip that prediction, but not just yet . . .

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The one "sky is not falling" thread. Thank God. I admit I may have been overly optomistic in my prediction for the game, but I was not totally disappointed. This is a new head coach with a new offensive system. In Gibbs II, yr. 1 the defense kept us in games. So far, that has been our saving grace. The D neutralized Eli, and needs to work on getting more turnovers, nothing that can't be done. JC needs to get more comfortable in the system, and that only takes time. I'm really not worried about this loss. I think it helped to put things in perspective, at leas for some of us.

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I think Sherman should probably call the plays. Zorn is not quick enough. It was embarrassing watching the team not being prepared for any kind of hurry up or late game catch up plan. Looked like preseason to me. Unfortunately the Giants were playing regular season ball during prime time week 1 and internationally broadcast!

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So Paintrain you think we will beat the Saints? And have a winning record after 6 games? There are serious gaps that still haven't been addressed since last season. From our draft we have 1 starter, a punter, who performed worse than Frost, who we cut. Cerrato's days are numbered. Thomas, Kelly, Tryon? How about depth at CB, OL, DL? Perhaps a S? Hopefully we can eventually use Colt, but I think the schedule is very difficult and it would take a Gibbs presence to help make miracles. Do you believe in miracles?

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[quote=Luxorreb;472680]So Paintrain you think we will beat the Saints? And have a winning record after 6 games? There are serious gaps that still haven't been addressed since last season. From our draft we have 1 starter, a punter, who performed worse than Frost, who we cut. Cerrato's days are numbered. Thomas, Kelly, Tryon? How about depth at CB, OL, DL? Perhaps a S? Hopefully we can eventually use Colt, but I think the schedule is very difficult and it would take a Gibbs presence to help make miracles. Do you believe in miracles?[/quote]
I don't know if we'll beat the Saints or not but I expect to see improvement in that game. I really don't care if we have a winning record after 6 games, it's after 16 that I am concerned with. I didn't realize that games stopped counting after Columbus Day, did I miss that rule change?

I'm not ready to judge an entire draft class on one preseason game. If that were the case there would be a whole bunch of unemployed Pro Bowlers who didn't show anything early in their careers and a ton of fired executives. Draft classes can be judged in Year 3, not Day 1.

Please explain to me how 'depth' at CB, OL, DL or S would have reversed the outcome of tonights games. We didn't get beat on 'depth', our starters got their asses whipped for a half.

I believe in miracles but I don't think one is necessary for us to have a decent season.

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Surprised you don't think Smoot and Rogers are suspect starters. All teams will throw on them again and again. And what did our DL do to stop the run up the middle? Brandon Jacobs is a beast sure, but shouldn't we be able to stop him? No Strahan, no Osi? Didn't matter against our OL, sieve. Draft classes after 3? Where we rate JC then? I'm just saddened by the seemingly lack of thoroughness of game planning, scenario building and execution of late game offense (and execution and planning of practiced game plan). Decent season would be great, but we've got a lot of areas to work on. Unfortunately problems start at the top and are found all the way down. Praying for 8-8, thinking we'll be 5-11.

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I would say we did fine, few dropped picks but at least the corners were there to drop them. I don't know why we cut frost, seems ridiculous to me. We drafted a bunch of receivers and ended up running the ball a lot against a good D line, although CP did look good to me, faster. That was the #1 D-line I don't know what you expect them to do against our O-line when we are not passing the ball to discourage them to back off it. I was not overly excited with JC's performance but I was not horrified by it either. 19-35 is no stellar performance by eli manning so I think our CB's did decent especially when we were trying to stop the run.

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Optimism is cool and all but it's not just one game. We all saw this same high school bullshit against carolina and again with jacksonville before Zorn pulled the plug when he realized the rest of the league was gonna see we were still playing like garbage.

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Redskins are in trouble. Terrible coaching.
Hate to agree with the big dude who wears the curtain suits on NFL Netowork, but he's right when he says we took to long to snap the ball. End of first and second halfs. No urgency. If urgency, no planning. That's bad coaching. Gibbs wasnt so bad was he?

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someone agrees-
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[quote=Paintrain;472654]I guess I'll be the optimist (or idiot depending on perspective) to try to prop up the sky from falling, but it's one game. There is really no shame in going into the home of the defending champs on opening night and losing a hard fought game. For those of you that thought we 'got dominated' the whole game, from the mid 2nd quarter on we stood toe to toe and didn't give in. We put ourselves in a hole and didn't play well enough to get out.

The offense looked pathetic for the better part of the game and Zorn's playcalling was dubious at best. I'm glad it's September and not December. There's time to correct those errors. JC looked tentative and unsure early, but as he showed last year, the more he throws, the more comfortable and in rhythm he gets and good things happen.

On defense, we dropped 4 picks. Carlos Rogers simply has the worst hands I have ever seen on a human. I'd be terrified to let him hold a baby. Fletcher isn't going to last all season if he's gonna rack up 17 tackles a game, but that's one of the best OL we're going to see this season. The DL will improve in stopping the run which will lead to longer 3rd downs and more opportunities to get to the QB. Our field position all night (avg. start at our own 25 yd line) was crap, we need the defense to tilt the field in our favor.

I'm as pissed, disappointed and disgusted as any one of you, but I also realize we've got 15 more games and we're going to improve.[/quote]

Your right there is nothing to get worked up about. JC is not ever going to be the top QB we all hoped he could be. At best he will be a back up. What dosen't help is poor WE's as well and a line showning it's age. But it will never matter if the QB can not play well. He looks lost and I don't care what calls Zorn calls it will not matter with JC back there. I am not going to say put someone else in because the other two may not be any better. Nothing to get worked uo about because the out come was known before they played. I am just happy it wasn't 30-7 because the D played a little better in the second hafe!

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[quote=Luxorreb;472718]Redskins are in trouble. Terrible coaching.
Hate to agree with the big dude who wears the curtain suits on NFL Netowork, but he's right when he says we took to long to snap the ball. End of first and second halfs. No urgency. If urgency, no planning. That's bad coaching. Gibbs wasnt so bad was he?[/quote] What about terrible QB play? WOW as bad as I ever seen a Redskin QB play!

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Every season, the board goes through bi-polar swings every week... relax folks- we're not going to see a smooth offense for a while. I've been watching the highlights on SportsCenter replays- we were short a yard or so a bunch of times on third. I think those first downs will come (in addition to higher YACs).

As much as people are raining down on JC, I've seen incredibly worse performances by others on any given Sunday. The score would have been much worse if Campbell would have forced a bunch of those third down passes. Even Eli's had terrible days with three or four picks... Campbell overthrew some fairly easy passes (notably in the flat), but some of those misses were timing issues. The stat-line could have been much more disastrous than it really was.

That Portis block on Kiwanuka might be the best block I've seen by a skins RB in a very long time. The overall game last night was nasty- tension was high on both sides (fights, helmets flying off, Jacobs over LL, Portis pancaking a DE)... I'm glad football is back and the NFC Beast looks to be off to a vicious start.

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JC will < should > get better as the season goes , the rest of the offense should as they think less and just play . However , until we bring in a beast on the OL and either get Cooley to make an effort to hit someone , no play calling will help ,,, you have to control the line of scrimmage . Defense , the same ,,, if our DL gets blown off the ball , your DB's will not look so great .The good news ,, I doubt we sign or draft another WR for another few years .

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new system, rookie head coach... what exactly was everyone expecting?

you can't judge JC on one game in a new offense - it takes time.

that said, i would have rather won that one...

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[quote]What about terrible QB play? WOW as bad as I ever seen a Redskin QB play![/quote]

You missed Heath Shuler and Jeff George.....

In terms of long term stability and success the wins and losses in the begining of this season don't matter near as much as Zorn's leadership. How he goes about fixing things and his ability to maintain the players belief in his system is what I am looking for. The players and the coaches are going to have to go thru some adversity together before the will totally trust each other. That is what the begining of this season is going to be about - building trust and belief and turning that into positives; i.e. confidense and poise.

Teams arnt built around talent, they are built around heart and commitment. That is a flat truth, and it takes time. If this is the worst game we play all year I will take it in a heartbeat.

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After digesting overnight, my offensive concerns are

1) JC staring down his receivers. I only saw him attempt to look off a defender at the end of the game and then make a throw into coverage in the endzone. I can't believe we didn't get picked off...

2). Playcalling. No way in the wco there's nothing but draw and dive plays in 2nd and 18... 3rd and 20. Also sometimes its okay to have underneath routes on third downs that are short, but if that's the only place you EVER look, you're going to get stopped.

3). Clock management. This looked WORSE than Gibbs. I wasn't sure it could get worse, but it did.

Having said that... We all knew this offense was going to take time to click and install. I think a lot of us looked at the first couple of preseason games and got higher expectations than should have. Throwing out what we saw in the last couple og PS games was overly optimistic... and dismissing now, after 1 shaky loss, the things we saw in the first couple is equally pessimistic.

The season is not over. Its funny how everyone wants youth and to build through the draft, but wants to win today as well. Rookie wideouts almost never have much of an impact... So we're not going to have a great set of receivers this year.

JC has to pick things up, because I think in Zorns press conference I can pick up on escalating impatience.

I predicted 28-13, so I was impressed by our short field D.

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;472736]
The season is not over. Its funny how everyone wants youth and to build through the draft, but wants to win today as well. Rookie wideouts almost never have much of an impact... So we're not going to have a great set of receivers this year.

JC has to pick things up, because I think in Zorns press conference I can pick up on escalating impatience.
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Very good point. Rookies and second year players struggle. They miss blocks, run wrong routes, take poor angles and generally blow assignments.
The only thing ruined right now is our 19-0 season. I don't care if we lose the first 7 games as long we then win the last 13 (including SB and playoffs).
Boo-hoo we lost on the road against the SB Champs by 9 points. We weren't blown out by the Dolphins or a scrub team.
By Tuesday morning 16 teams will be happy and 16 will be bitching the world is ending. The reality of sports is that every team in every game has good plays and bad. This week we had more bad. But the Giants get paychecks too. I don't think our Run D was horrible, but that they have a great OLine and a bruiser that runs people over (I'm sure Landry will not like seeing the game film).And despite losing Osi and Strahan, this is a great defense. By the end of the year I'm sure they'll be top five in almost every category.

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[quote=Paintrain;472654]I guess I'll be the optimist (or idiot depending on perspective) to try to prop up the sky from falling, but it's one game. There is really no shame in going into the home of the defending champs on opening night and losing a hard fought game. For those of you that thought we 'got dominated' the whole game, from the mid 2nd quarter on we stood toe to toe and didn't give in. We put ourselves in a hole and didn't play well enough to get out.

The offense looked pathetic for the better part of the game and Zorn's playcalling was dubious at best. I'm glad it's September and not December. There's time to correct those errors. JC looked tentative and unsure early, but as he showed last year, the more he throws, the more comfortable and in rhythm he gets and good things happen.

On defense, we dropped 4 picks. Carlos Rogers simply has the worst hands I have ever seen on a human. I'd be terrified to let him hold a baby. Fletcher isn't going to last all season if he's gonna rack up 17 tackles a game, but that's one of the best OL we're going to see this season. The DL will improve in stopping the run which will lead to longer 3rd downs and more opportunities to get to the QB. Our field position all night (avg. start at our own 25 yd line) was crap, we need the defense to tilt the field in our favor.

I'm as pissed, disappointed and disgusted as any one of you, but I also realize we've got 15 more games and we're going to improve.[/quote]

Very well put and I couldn't agree more. I'd call that more of a realist perspective than anything else. There was some good, there was quite a bit of bad, but it's only the first game and there's a lot of football to be played.

And the comment about Rogers had me laughing out loud in my cubicle to the stares of passers-by.

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We are not done by any means.

But fans STILL need to adjust their expectations. Do I think we'll go 3-13? No, because that would truly be a sky is falling situation, and we're not at that point. But do I think we'll make the playoffs? Absolutely not.

To expect our passing game to do much better than it did last night is unrealistic for the first 8 games. If we're going to remain competitive, we have to grind it out with Portis and just scrap on defense.

I'm thinking 3-5 in the first half.

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I thought I'd point out the [B]real[/B] bright side to all of this:

We finally have a solid answer to all the questions about whether our last two preseason games were a fluke or not.

We really answered that one quite well last night - left no doubters.

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good thread, some of the others I am not even going to read. I like everyone else am disapointed by the loss but after we gave up the 16 the D got pretty solid and shut the giants down. once the O got going they looked pretty good at times as well.

my biggest concern, throwing passes to short to get the first on third down. it was an issue last year also and needs to be corrected.

on to week two

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If anyone keeps stats on DB's droping INT's, I would put money on carlos rodgers being in the top 3.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;472659]Things that will get better when we get our 3 2nd rounders in the mix, Springs and Taylor healthy, learn to give the ball to Sellers on 3rd and short, pass the ball beyond the 1st down marker not below, manage the timeouts a little better. This things will make a big difference in my opinion.[/quote]

And don't forget that Tuck is a premier pass rusher in this league. You never ever ever put a tight end on him and expect him to block Tuck. Spurrier did that in his infamous "Chuck and Duck" offense and that offense was a proven failure.

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Good thread.

People definitely need to chill the hell out. It's one game of 16. As we've seen in recent years you can't throw in the towel even when things look totally lost things can turn on a dime.

New offense, young QB, rookie HC... there's going to be a learning curve. If we're still looking this bad on offense in week 4 or 5 I will start to get concerned. Until then they just need to play through it and continue to work on improving.

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i keep the faith on jc..but my optimsm with zorns "offensive mind" has waned a little.
i didnt expect playoffs or superbowl this year, but i didnt expect every possession to be three and out, or every run to be up the middle....we have GOT to be more inovative and get away from run run pass...

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[quote=Mattyk72;472780]Good thread.

People definitely need to chill the hell out. It's one game of 16. As we've seen in recent years [B]you can't throw in the towel[/B] even when things look totally lost things can turn on a dime.

New offense, young QB, rookie HC... there's going to be a learning curve. If we're still looking this bad on offense in week 4 or 5 I will start to get concerned. Until then they just need to play through it and continue to work on improving.[/quote]

I'm not so much in to throwing in the towel as I am in to wringing it. Or maybe whipping someone with it.

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[quote=Luxorreb;472680]So Paintrain you think we will beat the Saints? And have a winning record after 6 games? There are serious gaps that still haven't been addressed since last season. From our draft we have 1 starter, a punter, who performed worse than Frost, who we cut. Cerrato's days are numbered. Thomas, Kelly, Tryon? How about depth at CB, OL, DL? Perhaps a S? Hopefully we can eventually use Colt, but I think the schedule is very difficult and it would take a Gibbs presence to help make miracles. Do you believe in miracles?[/quote]People discount how difficult a coaching change is initially. Both Gibbs and Schottenheimer started 0-5 here. While I believe that Zorn will work out fine in the long run, I can easily see the Skins starting 1-4 or 0-5 this year, especially given the brutal early portion of the schedule. I was alarmed by the lack of intensity by the defensive front 7 in the first quarter. Campbell looked shaky as well, but that is to be expected when you have a young QB in yet another new offense.

Another disappointment was the inability of the DBs to catch INTs when they were there for the taking. Smoot caught one, but dropped one in the end zone. Rogers dropped two, including one that would have gone to the house, and Landry also dropped one. When the team is struggling, sometimes just making a play can light a fire, and those 4 dropped INTs might have changed the momentum in our favor.

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[quote=SouperMeister;472816]People discount how difficult a coaching change is initially. Both Gibbs and Schottenheimer started 0-5 here. While I believe that Zorn will work out fine in the long run, I can easily see the Skins starting 1-4 or 0-5 this year, especially given the brutal early portion of the schedule.
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1-4 or 2-3 is likely and we could still end up 9-7 or 10-6 and in the playoffs. IMO, our three toughest games of the year are in the first 5 weeks (@NY, @PHI, @Dallas). In the long run, it will show a lot about Zorn's character and leadership with how he comes out of that fifth game and moving forward.

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[quote=SouperMeister;472816]People discount how difficult a coaching change is initially. Both Gibbs and Schottenheimer started 0-5 here. While I believe that Zorn will work out fine in the long run, I can easily see the Skins starting 1-4 or 0-5 this year, especially given the brutal early portion of the schedule. I was alarmed by the lack of intensity by the defensive front 7 in the first quarter. Campbell looked shaky as well, but that is to be expected when you have a young QB in yet another new offense.

[b]Another disappointment was the inability of the DBs to catch INTs when they were there for the taking. Smoot caught one, but dropped one in the end zone. Rogers dropped two, including one that would have gone to the house, and Landry also dropped one. When the team is struggling, sometimes just making a play can light a fire, and those 4 dropped INTs might have changed the momentum in our favor.[/b][/quote]
This is a HUGE big picture point most people are ignoring. Smoot catches that ball, it's now 13 points given up rather than 16. If Rogers catches the one he would have scored on it's now 14 points scored rather than 7. Rogers or Landry catch the other 2 and we've changed possession and field position for our offense.

There aren't many teams that are going to look great offensively starting every drive on their own 24 yard line. Good to great teams get help from their defense to 'flip the field' and convert shorter scoring drives. We're not the Pats, Colts or Cowboys. We're not going to have too many 76 yard drives each game, we need those game changing plays to be made.

IF those plays were made, we'd all be talking about the second coming of the '85 Bears. The defense making those plays makes the offense better by putting them in positions to succeed!

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[quote=doughtydoubter;472781]i keep the faith on jc..but my optimsm with zorns "offensive mind" has waned a little.
i didnt expect playoffs or superbowl this year, but i didnt expect every possession to be three and out, or every run to be up the middle....we have GOT to be more inovative and get away from run run pass...[/quote]

You have to give it time. The early part of the schedule is very tough (I happen to think the Saints are likely to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl).

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[quote=SmootSmack;472840]You have to give it time. The early part of the schedule is very tough (I happen to think the Saints are likely to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl).[/quote]

Good point,
of our first five game this season, NOBODY except for most of on this site expects us to win more than one (Az game). The other teams we play are better than are we as proclaimed by the football guru's. Hell, maybe they are. AND on the road against division foe's
SO, it cannot come as a big surprise that we lost to the S-bowl champs in their crib
As the thread states......relax............
We have a total Rookie gig going on here with coach. Offense, etc, plenty of injuries to go around.
Was it pretty? No
From the first qtr, it looked like it would be an old school beat down. Our D managed to pull it together to some degree in spite of being on the field for 16 hours.
JZ is a little shell shocked at the moment, and this type of shit will not stand with this team
AND have a drink to better times to come
after all, Beer....it's not just for breakfast anymore

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its a tough sched...and on the brightside we will have a high 1st rounder next year...lol