Scientists hope for surprises in Big Bang experiment
 

I guess we won't know if they are wrong lol


GENEVA (Reuters) - Scientists involved in a historic "Big Bang" experiment to begin this week hope it will turn up many surprises about the universe and its origins -- but reject suggestions it will bring the end of the world.

link: [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL846768920080908]Scientists hope for surprises in Big Bang experiment | U.S. | Reuters[/url]

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I saw a documentary on this, I think on Nat Geo, it's pretty amazing what they are attempting to do. I think I'll try to catch the web feed on Wednesday.

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I bet if a scientist ever does create an experiment that brings down the universe, that scientist will be French like this guy.

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I wouldn't worry too much, I'm sure they all stayed at a Holiday Inn.

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[url=http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080909150154.yzfml9cn&show_article=1]Hawking bets CERN mega-machine won't find 'God's Particle'[/url]

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I just hope that "ray of light from the Indian Ocean" they keep talking about doesn't show up in the Chesapeake Bay or off the coast of VB.....LOL

Oh well, at least I wouldn't have to go into work next Monday.

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One of the things they're looking for is a unit of graviton. This particle is thought, in string theory, to possibly transcend different dimensions.

It's interesting to think that we're spending billions of dollars on a big machine that's testing for alternate dimensions and universes. Many of the theories of modern physics are just impossible to grasp.

Blows your mind.

One of my favorite programs of all time. Brian Greene is a little cheesy (but smart as shit), but it's an interesting take on modern physics.

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absolute coolest thing i have ever seen. Ive been following the hadron collider for about a year now and am very excited... anyone know of any good sites tracking the progress and experiements?

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it's gonna be mighty hard for them to re-create the work of god.

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String Theory sounds very nice and stuff but it reminds me an awful lot of epicycles and aether.

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if you've got a better idea, please share it ;)

i mean, it's not like they came up with a theory and called it a day... they're actively working to prove/disprove it... it really doesn't matter which, cause we get closer to the truth either way.

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I thought I heard somewhere that it will take them 10 years or more to be able to decipher anything from this experiment.

That's a long wait. I want answers, and I want them NOW.

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[quote=Beemnseven;474504]I thought I heard somewhere that it will take them 10 years or more to be able to decipher anything from this experiment.

That's a long wait. I want answers, and I want them NOW.[/quote]

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Success?

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/10/lhc.collider/index.html]Scientists cheer atom smasher success - CNN.com[/url]

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We're still here at least.

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[quote=That Guy;474495]if you've got a better idea, please share it ;)

i mean, it's not like they came up with a theory and called it a day... they're actively working to prove/disprove it... it really doesn't matter which, cause we get closer to the truth either way.[/quote]

No, I don't have a better theory but I do know there's something to be said for simplicity and elegance. String theory just keeps adding shit to justify the math without any testable or observable basis. The science fiction fan in me is excited, the scientist in me is skeptical.

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String theory is still a work in progress, but it's pretty wild to consider the possibilities of it.

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I love this stuff. I can't believe humans are actually conducting an experiment, and one of the possibilities is the creation of a black hole. Man, we've come a long way baby.

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just, it'd be a tiny black hole that wouldn't even exist for a full second though, not the one that'd suck in the universe (like some less educated people are worried about)... that kind of black hole would take take QUITE a bit more than 2 particles...

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[quote=That Guy;474636]just, it'd be a tiny black hole that wouldn't even exist for a full second though, not the one that'd suck in the universe (like some less educated people are worried about)... that kind of black hole would take take QUITE a bit more than 2 particles...[/quote]

Yeah, I know. It's just fascinating that there was a time in the recent past when physicists weren't even certain about the existence of black holes. Now we can potentially create them (albeit, small ones).

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9.2 billion????? Holy freakin cow!!! Is this really THAT important?

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Yes, it is that important. Knowledge is priceless.

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considering the possibility of a near infinite return on investment, yes, it's worth it.

if it changes the world like the transitor, steam engine, etc, then there's no real way to argue against it... and even if it doesn't it gets us closer to understanding how physics really works on the REALLY small end of the scale, which will indirectly lead to discoveries and inventions/knowledge that can make it seem like pennies...

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[quote=saden1;474552][B]No, I don't have a better theory [/B]but I do know there's something to be said for simplicity and elegance. String theory just keeps adding shit to justify the math without any testable or observable basis. The science fiction fan in me is excited, the scientist in me is skeptical.[/quote]

Yeah but all science can ever do is provide the best possible explanation based on the evidence available, which at this point is scant. String theory might very well be proven wrong but you can't just say it is too complicated when so many of the world's foremost physicists are proponents. That's why I laugh at people who point out minor inconsistencies in evolutionary theory and act as if they have made a scientific argument - as if identifying flaws without also proposing a competing theory is scientific discourse. As for observable evidence, this 8 billion dollar tube is a pretty significant step in that direction.

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[quote=jsarno;474908]9.2 billion????? Holy freakin cow!!! Is this really THAT important?[/quote]

Yes.

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[quote=Mattyk72;474542]We're still here at least.[/quote]

Or are we? Yes we are still here, but where exactly is here? Did our entire existence just get sucked into a black hole to another dimension? Freaky...on on that note...where is the incense?

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[url=http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=nw20080911094052586C108680&set_id=]News - World: Big Bang experiment marred by suicide[/url]

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[quote=Angry;474949]Or are we? Yes we are still here, but where exactly is here? Did our entire existence just get sucked into a black hole to another dimension? Freaky...on on that note...where is the incense?[/quote]

I thought they already blasted it, my bad.

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[quote=saden1;474920]Yes, it is that important. Knowledge is priceless.[/quote]

Problem is, even after this experiment, it will still be a THEORY. I am all for knowledge, hell I have been vocal about NASA support, but I am not so sure I agree with this. I don't see how this will matter. So please someone fill me in on how or why this is important other than saying "knowledge". What exactly are we trying to prove that we don't already have a theory for?

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[quote=Mattyk72;474950][url=http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=nw20080911094052586C108680&set_id=]News - World: Big Bang experiment marred by suicide[/url][/quote]

Sounds like the Y2K fears.

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[quote=Mattyk72;474952]I thought they already blasted it, my bad.[/quote]

They did, well, the test blast anyway. My last comment had sarcasm written all over it BTW.

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[quote=Angry;474969]They did, well, the test blast anyway. My last comment had sarcasm written all over it BTW.[/quote]

Oh I know.

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[quote=jsarno;474955]Problem is, even after this experiment, it will still be a THEORY. I am all for knowledge, hell I have been vocal about NASA support, but I am not so sure I agree with this. I don't see how this will matter. So please someone fill me in on how or why this is important other than saying "knowledge". What exactly are we trying to prove that we don't already have a theory for?[/quote]

:doh: Really? When you have a theory the whole point is that you have to prove it. What the f*ck is the point of having a theory if you don't try to prove it? I think you have very little idea about what this was about and suggest you do some reading so you can understand the potential impact this apparently unimportant information(to you) could yield.

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[quote=jsarno;474955]Problem is, even after this experiment, it will still be a THEORY. I am all for knowledge, hell I have been vocal about NASA support, but I am not so sure I agree with this. I don't see how this will matter. So please someone fill me in on how or why this is important other than saying "knowledge". What exactly are we trying to prove that we don't already have a theory for?[/quote]

I think they're perhaps trying to prove theories themselves (or at least parts of them).

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[quote=jsarno;474955]Problem is, even after this experiment, it will still be a THEORY. I am all for knowledge, hell I have been vocal about NASA support, but I am not so sure I agree with this. I don't see how this will matter. So please someone fill me in on how or why this is important other than saying "knowledge". What exactly are we trying to prove that we don't already have a theory for?[/quote]

gravity.. the higgs boson... string theory... this may be the building block for controlling black holes or using gravity as waves or who knows what else.

what if columbus had your mindset? "traveling west is too expensive, what's it going to prove?" - the NFL wouldn't even exist. shame on you.

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[quote=That Guy;475029]gravity.. the higgs boson... string theory... this may be the building block for controlling black holes or using gravity as waves or who knows what else.

what if columbus had your mindset? "traveling west is too expensive, what's it going to prove?" - the NFL wouldn't even exist. shame on you.[/quote]

The potential findings of this experiment could be ground breaking to say the least.

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I want a Warp Drive!

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I want a time machine!

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I want to be beamed up...not by Scottie though.