Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?
 

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Okay, we've gone way too long without talking about the QB in detail.
Loved the two times he tucked the ball and ran, right up the gut, for big first downs. Those plays were huge and the kid has plenty of gumption running in those high traffic areas. His poise in finding secondary receivers was excellent. He threw a few away when he had to. He shook off a rough patch in the middle of the game - JC started off 8-for-8, hit a rut, and then, most importantly, he finished strong again.

How about passer ratings over 100 in consecutive games? How about hitting seven different receivers for the second week in a row? How about no fumbles or turnovers all season, through 93 attempts? How about finishing Week 2 with eight straight completions and opening this game with eight more? How about four TDs - zero INTs, and a 100.1 passer rating, with 66 percent completions?

How about 4-for-5 for 69 yards and a TD with the game on the line in the fourth quarter (including three passes of 17 yards or more)? How about JC in the fourth quarter this season: 23 for 32, (72 percent!) for 331 yards and two TDs - a 125.9 passer rating? And all of these have been in close-and-late situations (with the score margin of seven points or less). Not too shabby, eh? That explains the Skins' outscoring teams 21-0 in the fourth quarter so far.
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Not bad huh?

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JC is making all the right moves.
No turnovers
Extending drives
Big time 3rd down conversions
Making it happen in the clutch
BIG TIME STUFF

Re: Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?
 

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Not bad huh?[/quote]

In the last two games, he's played like Collins did during the stretch run last year, which was darn impressive. You could argue Campbell has been even more clutch than Collins, having his best moments in the 4th quarter with the game on the line.

Gotta keep it up to really achieve that next level status. But he's beginning to show why he deserves to be considered a franchise QB.

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Right now he is not taking chances. He is finding the open guy and taking it. Very rarely is he risking the ball where he shouldn't. One of these weeks someone is going to commit to stopping our passing game and that'll be a real test to see how he handles that and how much we can bang the ball when they do that.

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Well While I have not thrown JC under the bus I have had that question if he could be our QB of the future. He has done allot in the last two games to show that he can lead this team when we need it most in the 4th qtr. Last year thats when he lost the game with a badly timed int but this year he has been flawless in the 4th. For that matter the team as a whole has played great in the 4th and that what winning teams do. The up comming game against D will tell us allot about JC growth as a QB. Even if we do not win the game if he could just show the poise he has over the past two games I'd be very happy.

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So far so good. 13 more games to go.

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This week will be a huge test. I have 3 concerns.

1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.

2) 3rd downs. We still have a very low 3rd down efficiency avg. I wish I could see our 3rd down % when we have a 0yd gain on 1st. We are showing improvement but we have to.

3) Caliber of D we've faced vs. what we have to face in our division. Saints and cards D doesn't really scare anyone except the niners and rams. (The rams should be scared of their practice squad).



Ill say I've been impressed and gush often about our young qb. He's got a hell of an arm and serious moxie. I really like him and hope he has a long wonderful career in DC, colt be damned. I just hope he continues to improve.

By the way, anyone else notice his stance under center looks much more natural this year, as opposed to last when it looked like he was taking a dump down there?

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I know the stats look great in all but it really doesn't seem like the coaches are asking him to do too much. The majority of the passes this week ( and against NO except for the last two drives) are short and low risk. We certainly are not as aggressive as Dallas or Philly. I'd just like to see us go down field more and try to score a little more quickly. I don't see us having 12 play drives against Dallas and Philly. I'd be willing to bet that Dallas is going to be sitting on all the short stuff this week. But JC has done a good job managing the games the last two weeks.

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;480161]This week will be a huge test. I have 3 concerns.

1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.

2) 3rd downs. We still have a very low 3rd down efficiency avg. I wish I could see our 3rd down % when we have a 0yd gain on 1st. We are showing improvement but we have to.

3) Caliber of D we've faced vs. what we have to face in our division. Saints and cards D doesn't really scare anyone except the niners and rams. (The rams should be scared of their practice squad).



Ill say I've been impressed and gush often about our young qb. He's got a hell of an arm and serious moxie. I really like him and hope he has a long wonderful career in DC, colt be damned. I just hope he continues to improve.
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By the way, anyone else notice his stance under center looks much more natural this year, as opposed to last when it looked like he was taking a dump down there?[/B][/quote]

hahaha...

yeah he certainly appears more comfortable, and his footwork has gotten a lot quicker (fast drop back)

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Not sure I'm buying the staring down the receivers thing as much anymore. When you think about it, this is the kind of offense where the QB needs to get the ball out quickly, so sometimes it's going to appear that he's not going through all of his reads when in reality he's just throwing to his 1st or 2nd option who just happens to be open. He's done a good job at checking down, which is an indication that he is going through his reads when he has to.

3rd down conversions is an issue, but against the Cards we were 5 of 11 which is an improvement over the first 2 weeks.

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I think the Dallas game will be a HUGE test for Campbell. If he has a good outing, even if we lose I think will be a moral victory. I really think that between Dallas and Philly, Dallas will be the slightly more winable (is that a word?) game. I was really impressed by Philly's ability to shut down the Steelers. While Lambeau field is a tough place to play, I was more impressed with Philly's victory than the Cowboys. Plus the Cowboys are coming off a three-win-in-a-row high, and it would be a perfect game to catch them off guard.

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[quote=Mattyk72;480198]Not sure I'm buying the staring down the receivers thing as much anymore. When you think about it, this is the kind of offense where the QB needs to get the ball out quickly, so sometimes it's going to appear that he's not going through all of his reads when in reality he's just throwing to his 1st or 2nd option who just happens to be open. He's done a good job at checking down, which is an indication that he is going through his reads when he has to.

3rd down conversions is an issue, but against the Cards we were 5 of 11 which is an improvement over the first 2 weeks.[/quote]

Also, if he were truly staring down his receivers, he would have thrown a few picks by now. It's not like safeties in this league don't pick up on that.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;480202]Also, if he were truly staring down his receivers, he would have thrown a few picks by now. It's not like safeties in this league don't pick up on that.[/quote]

Yup, good call on that.

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He's looked very good the past two weeks. I'm cautiously optimistic and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.

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[quote=skinsfan69;480180]I know the stats look great in all but it really doesn't seem like the coaches are asking him to do too much. The majority of the passes this week ( and against NO except for the last two drives) are short and low risk. We certainly are not as aggressive as Dallas or Philly. I'd just like to see us go down field more and try to score a little more quickly. I don't see us having 12 play drives against Dallas and Philly. I'd be willing to bet that Dallas is going to be sitting on all the short stuff this week. But JC has done a good job managing the games the last two weeks.[/quote]

That's the WCO defined.

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exactly, that is just the type of offense we run and I have no proble with it.

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If Campbell plays well this week and the Redskins beat Dallas, he would be elected U.S. president in the D.C. area.

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;480161]1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.
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The fact that Campbell stares down receivers is a bit overstated. He was doing it a bit in preseason, but I have a feeling that had a lot to do with his comfort level in the new offense. He seems to be moving through his progressions a lot more quickly now, which is reinforced by the fact that he's hit 7+ receivers in the last two games.

I also noticed at least a few plays last week where he used the stigma of "staring down receivers" to his advantage. A couple of times, Campbell did lock on to a receiver, and give a vicious pump fake to shift the DB's. Then he turned and delivered the ball to the other side of the field. It was impressive, since I don't recall seeing him use the pump fake so effectively.

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[quote=FRPLG;480207]That's the WCO defined.[/quote]

Defined to a point. At some point JC is going to have to start taking more changes downfield, especially against the top defenses.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;480205]He's looked very good the past two weeks. I'm cautiously optimistic and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.[/quote]

Before the season is over he's going to have a few bad games. I hope people can keep that in mind and not toss him under the bus again as soon as he does have a bad one. Every QB struggles at times.

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[quote=skinsfan69;480227]Defined to a point. At some point JC is going to have to start taking more changes downfield, especially against the top defenses.[/quote]

I agree. While the WCO is predicated on the short passing game, isn't the idea that you setup the deep passes with short passes? Either way, long sustained drives will win us most games, but sometimes you've gotta be able to let it rip, and not just against a depleted secondary's rookie back up cb.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;480205]He's looked very good the past two weeks.[B] I'm cautiously optimistic[/B] and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.[/quote]

My feelings exactly. I'm definitely tempering my optimism until I see it for more than two straight games. I love what I'm seeing the past couple of weeks, but lets not slurp him too much until we see it on the road against defenses a little tougher than Arizona and a New Orleans.

That said, weeks 2 and 3 were a great warm up for two brutal road games upcoming. He definitely has all the tools, and he's obviously putting it together.

It will be interesting to see how many people jump right back off his bandwagon if we struggle the next two games.

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[quote=Mattyk72;480229]Before the season is over he's going to have a few bad games. I hope people can keep that in mind and not toss him under the bus again as soon as he does have a bad one. Every QB struggles at times.[/quote]

i definately agree... gotta keep behind the qb at all times... We sure as shit cant have the attitude that people had with brunell... but i doubt we'll run into any issue like that. Everyone loves the man.

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Was there ever any doubt?:cool-smil

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I think the main point is that now teams are respecting our passing game as a legitimate big play threat. This is the fourth year in a row that our passing game has been above average, and the last time it wasn't (2004) seems like forever ago. But the argument against that has always been that the passing game itself was successful, but only because opponents really didn't respect it's downfield ability. Thus, our offense was being hurt in other ways, such as the running game (8 in the box, run blitzes, etc.).

But now, it appears that Dallas has to plan for the downfield passing game. So instead of offensive balance falling on Jason Campbell's shoulders, like it has the past 2 years, the concept of offensive balance has to fall on Portis and the running game. Portis didn't produce big gashing runs last year, and certainly there were a litany of legit excuses (he's hurt, the OL is decimated, the run blocking schemes don't work, the vertical passing game is non-existant, etc.). But he's healthy now and the OL is pretty healthy, we're doing a lot of zone running, and we have a nice vertical passing game. If Portis doesn't start breaking off long runs under these conditions, I think we will have to accept the fact that he's no longer the speed back he was at the beginning of his career.

Which I feel is somewhat obvious, but maybe under these conditions, I'll be proven wrong.

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Randle el dancing around too much on PRs may be overstated. That doesn't mean its not true. I'm not sure that he stares down receivers. I notice that when I watch his eyes and head on his passes they rarely face the other side of the field opposite his throws.

I say this because I was paying attention to rothlisburger and romo this week and their heads scan with their eyes a lot as if their dropping back and saying' "noooo".

As far as hitting multiple receivers, that may or may not be evidence of seeing the entire field. It may be that sellers is the primary or secondary look on the play, or yoder, or randle el, etc. It seems like when he scans he takes a bit too long.

Its something I think he's improving in but not good at yet in this system. I have been impressed, though overall.

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;480242]Randle el dancing around too much on PRs may be overstated. That doesn't mean its not true. I'm not sure that he stares down receivers. I notice that when I watch his eyes and head on his passes they rarely face the other side of the field opposite his throws.

I say this because I was paying attention to rothlisburger and romo this week and their heads scan with their eyes a lot as if their dropping back and saying' "noooo".

As far as hitting multiple receivers, that may or may not be evidence of seeing the entire field. It may be that sellers is the primary or secondary look on the play, or yoder, or randle el, etc. It seems like when he scans he takes a bit too long.

Its something I think he's improving in but not good at yet in this system. I have been impressed, though overall.[/quote]

I will say it took him foooorrreevvveeer to spot the wide open Devin Thomas on the "shoulda-been" TD.

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give credit where credit is due- while I wasn't a "booer" of JC, i certainly wasn't an overt supporter. I'm pleased to see him playing smart football.
Bring on Dallas

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;480205]He's looked very good the past two weeks. I'm cautiously optimistic and I won't freak out if he has a bad game over the next two weeks.[/quote]

Cautious optimism is appropriate here. He's going to have a bad game or two, but he's had 2 good ones in a row so we've seen a little bit of playmaking ability. That's the thing...there's alot of QB's in the league that if given optimum protection and some WR weapons, can hit an open guy. It's the QB that can make that throw under pressure, read a blitz find the open guy, or make adjustments on the fly that is an elite QB that can take his team to the next level. We've seen a little of that and that's whats so nice about the last couple games.

A win in Dallas would catapult him into a different level nationally. Let's hope.

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so far so good but we still have a ways to go yet but i like what i,m seeing thus far.. so from one jason to another keep it up and keep it going....

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Yeah the WCO is shorter, quicker passing routes that helps open up the running attack. That being said I wish our running game was a bit better. Portis might not hit 1000 yards at the rate he is going. That being said do you guys think I should play JC or the Buffalo QB this Sunday for fantasy?

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[quote=GusFrerotte;480319]Yeah the WCO is shorter, quicker passing routes that helps open up the running attack. That being said I wish our running game was a bit better. Portis might not hit 1000 yards at the rate he is going. That being said do you guys think I should play JC or the Buffalo QB this Sunday for fantasy?[/quote]


I agree. Im concerned about the running game myself. I don't get why they decided to keep gibbs's running game. I thought the WCO implored it's own running game, much of it out of spread formations.

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[quote=Mattyk72;480229]Before the season is over he's going to have a few bad games.[B] I hope people can keep that in mind and not toss him under the bus again as soon as he does have a bad one[/B]. Every QB struggles at times.[/quote]

i couldnt have said that any better. but keep in mind a poor showing this weekend and JC will be back under the bus. there is no if ands or buts about it IMO. i like what i have seen. No ints nor fumbles. Thats managing a game. He isnt putting our defense out there on a short field. I really like the progress and confidence i am seeing in him. Lets hope we can carry that over into playing dem boys. I again like our chances. Run the damn ball and JC play as effective as he has been in the last two weeks and i really like our chances Sunday.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;480319]Yeah the WCO is shorter, quicker passing routes that helps open up the running attack. That being said I wish our running game was a bit better. [B]Portis might not hit 1000 yards at the rate he is going[/B]. That being said do you guys think I should play JC or the Buffalo QB this Sunday for fantasy?[/quote]Actually, Portis is right on schedule for 1,200+ yards (he has 248 through 3 games). If he stays healthy, he's a shoo-in for 1,000 yards.

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[quote=SouperMeister;480357]Actually, Portis is right on schedule for 1,200+ yards (he has 248 through 3 games). If he stays healthy, he's a shoo-in for 1,000 yards.[/quote]

Actually he's on pace for 1,323 yards.

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One thing I love about JC is how well he sells the play action. It's a minor detail, but he really excels at it.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;480361]One thing I love about JC is how well he sells the play action. It's a minor detail, but he really excels at it.[/quote]

The draw play that he and Portis sell is really good too.

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[quote=GoSkins!;480364]The draw play that he and Portis sell is really good too.[/quote]

Wasn't that the play that we used to get Cooley wide open for the 1st down late in the 4thQ against the Cards?

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I think the lesson to be learned is that you don't blame one player when the entire team plays like crap. When all other phases of the game are working and one guy is holding you back - think Tavaris Jackson - then you start complaining. But more than anything these past two weeks have shown what JC can do when everyone else decides to step up.

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Qb Rating of 100.1, up from 77;

Completion % up from 60.0 to 65.6

No picks.

One helluva year, so far.

Sitting in the stands at Fedex, midway therough the 2nd qtr last week against N.O., it was this big 'click' you could hear as it all just meshed.

Sure, there will be setbacks, but we are all seeing the progress we hoped we'd see.

Credit to the young man and the young coach.

Nice job.

J-Dawg.