The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

I don't think anything else needs to be said. Another horrible game from him that directly led to our loss today. Unacceptable.

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I agree he was miserable, yes he needs to go and yes he did contribute to the loss but the turnovers and dumb mistakes didnt help, this was an offensive team loss today, other than the big play at the end the d played pretty solid again.

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He was not a direct cause but a contributor. I think at a minimum getting some competition this week is a given...

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LOL. That didn't take long...

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[quote=NYCSkin;488894]He was not a direct cause but a contributor. I think at a minimum getting some competition this week is a given...[/quote]

His 20-some yard punt out of our own endzone put them in field goal position automatically. Check the final score, he directly led to a loss just as much as Pete Kendall did.

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Not ready to do so yet, he had a good hold on a bad snap for the field goal to get us within 6.

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and his punt that landed on the two helped us more than the bad punt hurt us. he gets another week.

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If they're going to cut him, ordinarily I would say 'fine, who will we find to replace him?'

But at this point, anyone else would better than Brooks. So much for that Ray Guy award.

The loss obviously isn't totally on him, but this was a classic field position game. The field goal by Brown to make it 16-7 was your killer -- that was set up by his 26 yarder out of the endzone.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;488902]LOL. That didn't take long...[/quote]

What do you mean by that? We've been suffering from Brooks' punting since preseason.

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Look, I was his biggest supporter originally. I thought he would overcome his preseason jitters and just YouTubeing his 70 yard punt in college was enough for me. But come on, this is the NFL. An average punter with consistency would be better than him.

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Frost was better, he was always consistent and never shanked any punts....(Sarcasm)

This kid's a rookie, if he doesn't improve towards the later part of the season, get another punter for next year. For better or worse, he's our punter this year.

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The only problem I have with Brooks right now is that he can't contain his nerves. He has the ability to kill the ball, but he is just letting the pressure really really get to him. Whatever coaching techniques they are using right now are not working.

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I like how none of you guys responded to mine or enternal's post.

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Selective reading...lol.

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I vote for change thread title to "Cut Leigh Torrence"

Wtf was he even DOING on the field during possibly the most clutch defensive moment!?!?!?

Shoot me.

But F you too Brooks. Not one single good punt today and he DEFINITELY directly contributed to our loss.

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[quote=hooskins;488931]I like how none of you guys responded to mine or enternal's post.[/quote]


So what, he can catch the ball?

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Blaming the loss on a punter when there were 3 TOs seems somewhat silly to me.

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[quote=SeasonTicketHolder;488939]So what, he can catch the ball?[/quote]
Are you kidding me? Catching the snap and positioning it before a field goal kick is much more important than a short punt.

The Rams didn't get any pts directly off Brooks punt, and his hold from a bad snap helped up get points.

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[quote=cpayne5;488950]Blaming the loss on a punter when there were 3 TOs seems somewhat silly to me.[/quote]
Thank you. At least a cut Kendall thread would make more sense(I dont think we should, just joking!)

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Are you kidding me? His shitty punts all day set them up in our territory more than once.

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I'd rather have a few muffed punts than not being able to count on field goals and extra points.

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Yeah but it's not like Brooks is the only guy that can catch a snap.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;488928]Frost was better, he was always consistent and never shanked any punts....

This kid's a rookie, if he doesn't improve towards the later part of the season, get another punter for next year. For better or worse, he's our punter this year.[/quote]

frost might have been better,but never shanked any punts?he was good for at least 1 shank a game up to last yr,he was better last yr,but he did occasionally shank them

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[quote=SeasonTicketHolder;488955]Are you kidding me? His shitty punts all day set them up in our territory more than once.[/quote]
All day? So you ignored the good punts he had? The one that landed at the two? Oh yeah, that doesnt count. LOL please.

Also, no one took the kicks to the house, and our D did well. Sure Brooks needs to work on his stuff, w.o a doubt but I dont think you cut him right now. I love this forum sometimes, I wish the mods would ban some of the people here for not being "knowledgeable fan". It would make the Path a heck of a lot better.

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[quote=Smooter;488961]I'd rather have a few muffed punts than not being able to count on field goals and extra points.[/quote]

I guess you haven't been watching many games but remember when Suisham missed a 30 yard field goal because of Durant not being able to get the snap down? Remember Zorn ripping his head off on the sidelines? Yeah, he's costing us field position AND points

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he fixed that today and held fine for the FGs and XPs

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He's not punting consistently. He's a rookie. Its not like, though, he's fucking up the 'skins big time.

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[quote=hooskins;488971]All day? So you ignored the good punts he had? The one that landed at the two? Oh yeah, that doesnt count. LOL please.

Also, no one took the kicks to the house, and our D did well. Sure Brooks needs to work on his stuff, w.o a doubt but I dont think you cut him right now. I love this forum sometimes, I wish the mods would ban some of the people here for not being "knowledgeable fan". It would make the Path a heck of a lot better.[/quote]

Okay I'll give it to him, he has ONE GOOD PUNT. Over the last three games his kicks have DIRECTLY cost us two touchdowns and a field goal. He had a bad hold earlier this season that cost us 3 more points.

Did he have any other good punts today? One, maybe two. How many horrible ones did he have? Several.

If "no one took the kicks to the house" is the standard of a punter in the NFL these days, then by all means, don't cut him, he didn't have a punt returned for a touchdown for the first time in 3 weeks. He's improving!

I'm sorry if I'm not a "knowledgeable fan" for wanting more out of my punter than you.

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Dont get me wrong, I think it is a problem. Is it the main problem? IMO, I don't think so.

Bigger issues:
-the offense not getting off the ball(score efficiently and early), and being consistent for ALL FOUR quarters.
-Finding out who we are(identity)
-Zorn's ability to lead this team after losing to the worst team in the NFL

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[quote=hooskins;488971]All day? So you ignored the good punts he had? The one that landed at the two? Oh yeah, that doesnt count. LOL please.

Also, no one took the kicks to the house, and our D did well. Sure Brooks needs to work on his stuff, w.o a doubt but I dont think you cut him right now. I love this forum sometimes, I wish the mods would ban some of the people here for not being "knowledgeable fan". It would make the Path a heck of a lot better.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm not knowledgeable because I don't always look at the good in things. I never said we should cut him anyway. He had one good punt and the rest were lousy. But hey, he can catch the ball for a field goal attempt. WOW, that makes him great.

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[quote=hooskins;488989]Dont get me wrong, I think it is a problem. Is it the main problem? IMO, I don't think so.

Bigger issues:
-the offense not getting off the ball(score efficiently and early), and being consistent for ALL FOUR quarters.
-Finding out who we are(identity)
-Zorn's ability to lead this team after losing to the worst team in the NFL[/quote]

Without a doubt those are much bigger problems. I just think our punting problem is one we could fix tomorrow, or at least bring in competition, see if anyone better is out there.

I think what makes me the most frustrated is that I didn't actively notice a punting problem last year with Frost. He had his ups and downs but it was never this bad. He kind of got ran out of DC for no real reason if you ask me.

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as horrible as he has played i was willing to let him go through his rookie learning curve but when a team goes three and out and still gets a field goal because you only got off a 26 yard punt that is the point when i agree he is killing us and we can no longer afford to let him grow as a rookie, its unfortunate too because i think he will eventually be a good punter he certainly has the leg to do it.

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1. He's improving
2. He's not the reason we lost today
3. He's a big reason we scored early
4. Who would we get to replace him
5. His second punt was ugly, but turned out to be a nice netting punt. He had a bad one out of his own endzone, but he's struggling anyway and he was pushed up toward the line a lot more than he's used to, so I give him a pass for just getting it off without giving up a safety.

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we need to cut the punter and the kicker

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[quote=LMsexyAO;488994]Without a doubt those are much bigger problems. I just think our punting problem is one we could fix tomorrow, or at least bring in competition, see if anyone better is out there.

I think what makes me the most frustrated is that I didn't actively notice a punting problem last year with Frost. He had his ups and downs but it was never this bad. He kind of got ran out of DC for no real reason if you ask me.[/quote]
I agree about it being a quick fix and Frost getting ran out.

I don't mean to say you're a bad poster, I am bit frustrated with the negativity, and losing doesn't help. My apologies.

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I don't know the protocol, but how long does it take to develop a punter typically? He has not been great, but to my knowledge Danny Smith stuck his neck out for this guy. There may be underlying issues with releasing Brooks

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[quote=hooskins;488953]Are you kidding me? Catching the snap and positioning it before a field goal kick is much more important than a short punt.

The Rams didn't get any pts directly off Brooks punt, and his hold from a bad snap helped up get points.[/quote]

[quote=Smooter]I'd rather have a few muffed punts than not being able to count on field goals and extra points.[/quote]

First of all, the 26-yard punt out of the endzone led to the Josh Brown field goal that put them up 16-7. So yes, the Rams DID get points thanks to Brooks' shitty punt.

Secondly Smooter, being able to catch the snap for field goals and extra points is Brooks' second responsibility. His first responsibility is to get his team out of trouble by punting the ball effectively. He hasn't done that consistenly all season. This was a classic field position game, and Durant Brooks failed us miserably.

Finding someone to hold for Suisham isn't as difficult as it is to punt the ball. Anyone can hold, not anyone can punt. That's like singing the praises of the lawyer who loses all his cases but does a good job filling up the water cooler every week.

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[quote=htownskinfan;488968]frost might have been better,but [B]never shanked any punts?[/B]he was good for at least 1 shank a game up to last yr,he was better last yr,but he did occasionally shank them[/quote]
I guess I should clarify that was sarcasm.

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;488938]I vote for change thread title to "Cut Leigh Torrence"

[b]Wtf was he even DOING on the field during possibly the most clutch defensive moment!?!?!?[/b]

Shoot me.

But F you too Brooks. Not one single good punt today and he DEFINITELY directly contributed to our loss.[/quote]

While I don't say cut Torrance, if he turns his head left instead of right we're not even having this discussion. Brooks was about 5th on the list of culpable Redskins today.

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You guys yelling to cut the punter will be the same ones screaming that the FO is stupid when they let him go and he goes on to be a solid punter somewhere else.

Brooks all of a sudden didn't turn into a crappy punter because he's struggled the first few games of the season. Give the kid a little time. If we're relying on a PUNTER to get us out of bad field position several times AGAINST THE SCRAMS then we've got a lot of bigger concerns.