The Not So Obvious From the Browns Game
 

Aside from the obvious...Portis, the Defense, etc I'd like to point out a couple of not so obvious things that caught my eye from yesterday.

I'm quickly jumping on the Chris Horton bandwagon. That dude can play some football. Sure, he might make a couple of mistakes from time to time, but he's a tackling machine.

Why has London Fletcher never been in the pro-bowl? Are you kidding me? If anything supports the fact the Pro Bowl is a little politics this should. No PB's in how many years in the NFL? Fletcher had a monstrous game. The leaping go line play on Lewis was unbelieveble.

Good to see Rock get a couple of touches on O. Didn't look too bad either? Remember a couple years ago when he went over 100 yards on art. turf? Wonder where we play next week?

S.Moss, welcome back. He looked alot better than El too returning punts. Not that I'm too excited about him being back there.

Our new punter Plack might be a little plump but he kicks pretty well. From what the guys from Comcast were saying he kicks a knuckle ball. That can't be easy to do.

Cheers. I'll happily take that win yesterday.

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all in all i,ll take the win as well.

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LOL the new punter is definitely pretty chunky. His stats weren't great but he did a nice job at pinning the Browns back. Good pickup.

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[quote=Mattyk72;491951]LOL the new punter is definitely pretty chunky. His stats weren't great but he did a nice job at pinning the Browns back. Good pickup.[/quote]
I'm not sold on this new punter as of yet. He did have a couple of nice punts but he also had a few that where not that good. I'm thinking that maybe he just needs to settle in some and will get better next week. Heck he might not even get a chance to punt next week.

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[quote=firstdown;491954]I'm not sold on this new punter as of yet. He did have a couple of nice punts but he also had a few that where not that good. I'm thinking that maybe he just needs to settle in some and will get better next week. Heck he might not even get a chance to punt next week.[/quote]

With as much punting going on yesterday, all I could think about was "I'm glad Brookes isn't in there". I'm sure we would have provided some good field positions to the Browns had he been in there.

On the chunky note, I made mention to my sons that actually, I kind of like the thought that we have some weight in the back-field if a punt return makes it too far; he doesn't look to fragile to tackle as most do.

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[quote=Hogroll;491955]With as much punting going on yesterday, all I could think about was "I'm glad Brookes isn't in there". I'm sure we would have provided some good field positions to the Browns had he been in there.

On the chunky note, I made mention to my sons that actually, I kind of like the thought that we have some weight in the back-field if a punt return makes it too far; he doesn't look to fragile to tackle as most do.[/quote]

Problem is they are going to blow by his fat ass on the way to the tochdown.

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[quote=mredskins;491970]Problem is they are going to blow by his fat ass on the way to the tochdown.[/quote]

Too funny. Maybe he needs to be a "wedge buster" or the "wedge" itself on kickoff returns.

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If you're relying on your punter to tackle the runner, then you're already in a world of hurt.

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[quote=firstdown;491954]I'm not sold on this new punter as of yet. He did have a couple of nice punts but he also had a few that where not that good. I'm thinking that maybe he just needs to settle in some and will get better next week. Heck he might not even get a chance to punt next week.[/quote]
I think his conditioning is the culprit! He cannot accurately kick eleventeen times per game

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Not happy with the score, not happy with the fact we play to our opponents level either.

[B]A win is a win[/B] I'll take it any way we can get it.

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Another not so obvious moment:
Devin Thomas laying Josh Cribbs out on special teams( Punt Return ).
On another special teams play he basically pushed aside Kareem Moore to chase down their return guy.

I love that this kid plays physical and just loves to play football. Hopefully he can figure out how to run routes and not get caught pushing off...

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Golston had a very solid performance. I think there were three or four times he stuffed the rush for virtually no gain.

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one thing i worry about is the low number of sacks we have as a team.i have a feeling that will eventually bite us in the ass!

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I think once Jason Taylor gets back up to speed the sacks will come.

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Portis was beast yesterday. running for 175 and a td. I hope our passing game steps it up next week against the lions. I wanna see lots of points next week. How about Carlos rogers hit on Cribbs. Ouch!

Hail to the redskins

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[quote=Mattyk72;492033]I think once Jason Taylor gets back up to speed the sacks will come.[/quote]


i hope so because despite having the league's 8th best defense,
i would bet we are near the bottom when it comes to team sacks are'nt we?

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[quote=dannyboy1983;492037]Portis was beast yesterday. running for 175 and a td. I hope our passing game steps it up next week against the lions. I wanna see lots of points next week. How about Carlos rogers hit on Cribbs. Ouch!

Hail to the redskins[/quote]

I thought he broke that dudes back. Not to many corners are laying the wood like Rogers is doing now.

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Lo-Rog has finally been playing to his potential!! this was the last year i was giving him until i labeled him a bust. I guess major reconstructive knee surgery was a blessing because he is definitely bringing it. I like moss returning punts, but when is devin thomas going to get a shot at it? He was a beast return man with msu.

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[quote=johnerotten;492042]i hope so because despite having the league's 8th best defense,
i would bet we are near the bottom when it comes to team sacks are'nt we?[/quote]

I think they said 22nd overall during the game yesterday

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[quote=johnerotten;492042]i hope so because despite having the league's 8th best defense,
i would bet we are near the bottom when it comes to team sacks are'nt we?[/quote]

Actually we've moved up to #6 after yesterday's game :) One ahead of the Eagles and just behind the Panthers if you can believe that.

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[quote=redskinsrob;492053]I thought he broke that dudes back. Not to many corners are laying the wood like Rogers is doing now.[/quote]

That was an awesome hit. But, what made it so much better was the next play, Laron blasted Braylon Edwards. I was waiting to see him get lit up all game after what he said.

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[quote=jamf;492024]Another not so obvious moment:
Devin Thomas laying Josh Cribbs out on special teams( Punt Return ).
On another special teams play he basically pushed aside Kareem Moore to chase down their return guy.

I love that this kid plays physical and just loves to play football. Hopefully he can figure out how to run routes and not get caught pushing off...[/quote]

I was going to flag this as well. That was a game-saving play, given the low score. Great to see the kid contributing even when he's not getting the ball at WR.

I think we still have a punter problem--hopefully, I'm wrong.

Rocky played well again, Smooty didn't get burned, and Cooley and Sellers were great as lead blockers. Also, SANTANA had a great block or two for Portis.

ARE actually had a very nice game--he had some nice receptions on crossing routes for big gains (big gains in THIS game...).

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Not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, but I have yet to see an angle that shows Portis clearly breaking the plane on his TD run. Is it just me or did he not get in?

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[quote=Mattyk72;492068]Not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, but I have yet to see an angle that shows Portis clearly breaking the plane on his TD run. Is it just me or did he not get in?[/quote]

In the replay it looked to me like the ball just barely inched over the front of the white line.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492068]Not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, but I have yet to see an angle that shows Portis clearly breaking the plane on his TD run. Is it just me or did he not get in?[/quote]


i saw and noticed that too matty.but since the browns did'nt challenge it,i can live with it!:)

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Rogers best game yet. Little scared when JC went down. CP get's the game ball for sure.

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What's with running a reverse with Fred Davis? I thought the idea was to give that play to someone with just a tad bit more speed.

I like that they're trying to get him more involved though. And Devin Thomas -- why can't they just send him on a fly pattern deep and launch the ball to him? At least you know he'd go pretty much unnoticed by the defense since he's seldom used.

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[quote=johnerotten;492032]one thing i worry about is the low number of sacks we have as a team.i have a feeling that will eventually bite us in the ass![/quote]

Ya I would like to see some more sacks. I can't believe Horton whiffed on his blitz. That was pitiful. He had a clean lane and shot at Anderson and took an inside path for some reason like Anderson is some speed demon. Anderson easily sidestepped him.

Hopefully we will get more sacks, thou our DL was a concern going into this season since we never really addressed it in the offseason.

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The defense was very good. One concern, though: The second no-turnover game in a row by the D. I hope they start creating them again like in Weeks 2-5.

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[quote=Beemnseven;492087]What's with running a reverse with Fred Davis? I thought the idea was to give that play to someone with just a tad bit more speed.

I like that they're trying to get him more involved though. And Devin Thomas -- why can't they just send him on a fly pattern deep and launch the ball to him? At least you know he'd go pretty much unnoticed by the defense since he's seldom used.[/quote]

Yeah, that was strange. I think Davis can get open, and he did.

Thomas should be able to get some looks too. Yesterday we were just conservative. Only 23 throws i believe. So, no one was going to light it up.

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[quote=Beemnseven;492087]What's with running a reverse with Fred Davis? I thought the idea was to give that play to someone with just a tad bit more speed.[/quote]

I t may be just me and the commentators but I thought he was going to throw it. It's not a bad idea really, because nobody expects your TE to throw the ball. They just shut the play down too quickly for him. for all the criticism, the Browns defense isn't all that bad.

I agree about the pass rush, but I suspect we were building O in this years draft and looking to next year to pump up the lines on both sides of the ball. The current record may well be something of a bonus to the organisation who I think were looking to next year to get competitive. IF we can pick the right players up in next years draft, imagine how much better we will be? Right now we need Taylor to get his groove back.

As to the passing game, I think Campbell is being deliberately careful and trying to avoid mistakes. Am I alone in thinking I wouldn;t mind seeing him make a few more throws down field and risk the INT?

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With how close some our games have been, it would make no sense to risk throws down the field. An INT here or there and we're probably 4-3 or worse.

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[quote=Twilbert07;492111]The defense was very good. One concern, though: The second no-turnover game in a row by the D. I hope they start creating them again like in Weeks 2-5.[/quote]

Being at the game I can see why there were no turnovers. The Brown QB was so off the mark most of the game that nobody on either team could have caught his passes. Also, the score was low so it was obvious they were tryimg not to force things.

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[quote=Twilbert07;492111]The defense was very good. One concern, though: [B]The second no-turnover game in a row by the D[/B]. I hope they start creating them again like in Weeks 2-5.[/quote]

Not quite, remember the Jackson fumble in the game against the Rams?

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[quote=Mattyk72;491951]LOL the new punter is definitely pretty chunky. His stats weren't great but he did a nice job at pinning the Browns back. Good pickup.[/quote]

Maybe he can double as a guard 6th OL?

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Everyone should be at least a bit concerned by yesterday's game. That game should have been cake if you look at it statistically, but it was very close. The D is fine, but again, very few turnovers thus far created this season. I rather have the D give up a bit more ypg if it meant getting 2-3 turnovers for our offense. Can't believe with our firepower we can't get into the endzone as of late against weaker competition.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492068]Not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, but I have yet to see an angle that shows Portis clearly breaking the plane on his TD run. Is it just me or did he not get in?[/quote]

I was very surprised there was neither a challenge by the Browns nor any discussion of this by the commentators. As I recall, the run came on first or second down, so we would have had at least another shot had a replay clearly shown that he didn't get it. But I did not celebrate that TD in my living room until Suisham drilled the extra point--I was convinced the red flag was coming.

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;492203]I was very surprised there was neither a challenge by the Browns nor any discussion of this by the commentators. As I recall, the run came on first or second down, so we would have had at least another shot had a replay clearly shown that he didn't get it. But I did not celebrate that TD in my living room until Suisham drilled the extra point--I was convinced the red flag was coming.[/quote]

I'm not sure Romeo C. is all that aware of what's going on out there at times. Also, why didn't he kick the FG on our 4th down stop? Whatever. Nice to see the other sideline goofing it up.

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[quote=Jake2008;492090]Ya I would like to see some more sacks. I can't believe Horton whiffed on his blitz. That was pitiful. He had a clean lane and shot at Anderson and took an inside path for some reason like Anderson is some speed demon. Anderson easily sidestepped him.

Hopefully we will get more sacks, thou [B]our DL was a concern going into this season since we never really addressed it in the offseason[/B].[/quote]


We addressed it, and felt it was fine until the first two hours of TC. Then Taylor was brought to town. We would have had a couple more sacks out of the DL if Anderson had held a fraction longer and hadn't tossed into the dirt. So the dirt helped a lot yesterday!

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[quote=Daseal;491982]If you're relying on your punter to tackle the runner, then you're already in a world of hurt.[/quote]

Very True.