John McCain's brother's angry 911 call: a short family fuse
 

You can't make this stuff up

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Is this a joke? If it is not I assume his [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobes#Function"]frontal lobes[/URL] haven't fully developed. Once again, god save us from the imbeciles.

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He's representing all the Joe the Dumbers of the world.

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We dont vote for the siblings of the men running.

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[quote=drew54;493478]We dont vote for the siblings of the men running.[/quote]

If we did, ol Bill woulda never got in cuz Roger was a quite the screw up.

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Ah, I long for the days of Billy Carter... now there was a "first brother" of the people. He was more like "Joe 12-pack."

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Like I said the liberal media is going to be throwing all this crap out to help Obama in any way they can. Matty is just making my point by posting this stuff.

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[quote=firstdown;493516]Like I said the liberal media is going to be throwing all this crap out to help Obama in any way they can. Matty is just making my point by posting this stuff.[/quote]

Ah, thanks for helping me see the light.:doh:

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[quote=JWsleep;493507]Ah, I long for the days of Billy Carter... now there was a "first brother" of the people. He was more like "Joe 12-pack."[/quote]

I have a six pack of Billy Beer.

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[quote=firstdown;493516]Like I said the liberal media is going to be throwing all this crap out to help Obama in any way they can. Matty is just making my point by posting this stuff.[/quote]

(Note: FD, I'm not saying you're a complete skeptic about the media, but I wanted to comment on this sort of charge.)

I think this ongoing line from the right is dangerous. Here's why: it's the place where they come closest to the loony left. The loony left (as my father in law calls them (me?)) do not believe the press either. They think they are largely controlled by corporate interests and only publicize those stories supportive of the capitalist status quo (see Noam Chomsky, for example). They are now very prone to embrace conspiracy theories of the nuttiest kind. This is not a good step.

It drives irrational behavior--accepting a crazy story just because it comes from the MSM and rejecting good stories for the same reason. So, if you think the MSM is biased and untrustworthy, and then someone says Obama is a closet muslim, you take it as EVIDENCE that the story is true that it's not reported or it's denied by the MSM. Same if you hear Palin is a snake handler or something: it WASN'T in the news, so it MUST be true, or anyway more credible.

No doubt the media has issues. My suggestion is to cross-reference stories from lots of sources. I read both the NY times and the WSJ. I also check the Drudge Report on a regular basis. And I try to followup on stories with longer things when I can--books, long-form articles, etc.

But if you don't get your news from the MSM, where do you get it? Why think that source is better? The press plays a vital function in democracy, and attacking it is dangerous. What, should political parties get to vet the media? Should they have editorial control? That serves the parties, but damages the nation. And yes, I do think in general that the MSM is biased. NY Times, WPost, NBC--liberal. Fox, NYPost, WashTimes--conservative. Knowing this allows for some cross-calibration. And I take try to take all these reports with a grain of salt.

It makes sense to be skeptical of what we get from the MSM, but it doesn't make sense, it seems to me, to become an out-and-out skeptic about the media. There's an important difference.

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Billy Beer rules.

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Yup, blame it on that damn liberal media.

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[quote=JWsleep;493530](Note: FD, I'm not saying you're a complete skeptic about the media, but I wanted to comment on this sort of charge.)

I think this ongoing line from the right is dangerous. Here's why: it's the place where they come closest to the loony left. The loony left (as my father in law calls them (me?)) do not believe the press either. They think they are largely controlled by corporate interests and only publicize those stories supportive of the capitalist status quo (see Noam Chomsky, for example). They are now very prone to embrace conspiracy theories of the nuttiest kind. This is not a good step.

It drives irrational behavior--accepting a crazy story just because it comes from the MSM and rejecting good stories for the same reason. So, if you think the MSM is biased and untrustworthy, and then someone says Obama is a closet muslim, you take it as EVIDENCE that the story is true that it's not reported or it's denied by the MSM. Same if you hear Palin is a snake handler or something: it WASN'T in the news, so it MUST be true, or anyway more credible.

No doubt the media has issues. My suggestion is to cross-reference stories from lots of sources. I read both the NY times and the WSJ. I also check the Drudge Report on a regular basis. And I try to followup on stories with longer things when I can--books, long-form articles, etc.

But if you don't get your news from the MSM, where do you get it? Why think that source is better? The press plays a vital function in democracy, and attacking it is dangerous. What, should political parties get to vet the media? Should they have editorial control? That serves the parties, but damages the nation. And yes, I do think in general that the MSM is biased. NY Times, WPost, NBC--liberal. Fox, NYPost, WashTimes--conservative. Knowing this allows for some cross-calibration. And I take try to take all these reports with a grain of salt.

It makes sense to be skeptical of what we get from the MSM, but it doesn't make sense, it seems to me, to become an out-and-out skeptic about the media. There's an important difference.[/quote]

I get my news from a bunch of sources both from the left and the right. MSNBC, FOX, PBS, PBR, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN I kind of surf around to see what they are talking about and if its of interest I'll will then listen. I don't cherry pick and only watch when they are talking good about who I support or when they are talking bad about who I don't support. I really enjoy surfing the news right after the debates to see all the different slants from the different news outlets. Like I said earlier I don't mind liberal slanted media its how they hide the fact that they are liberal and report like its just facts without their slant. I know liberals dog Fox but you know what you are getting when you turn them on and they do not hide the fact they lean to the right. You cannot say that about MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN and they just want you to think they are just reporting without their slant.

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[quote=JWsleep;493531]Billy Beer rules.[/quote]
I have never tried the beer because I figure that a full six pack in its holder might be worth some money one day. I found it at a yard sale when I was looking at some fishing poles.

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[quote=firstdown;493516]Like I said the liberal media is going to be throwing all this crap out to help Obama in any way they can. Matty is just making my point by posting this stuff.[/quote]

Here's the story on Fox News if it makes you feel any better.

Regardless of the source it's still a story, is it not? I'm not saying it's one that will have any effect on the election, but still, some moron calls 911 to complain about traffic, and that moron just happens to be McCain's brother? I don't see where this is the liberal media piling on.

[url=http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/mccains-brother-leaves-campaign-flareup/]McCain's Brother Leaves Campaign After 911 Flareup - FOXNews.com Elections[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;493516]Like I said the liberal media is going to be throwing all this crap out to help Obama in any way they can. Matty is just making my point by posting this stuff.[/quote]

It's kind of an old story, and if this is actually a reason some one would vote for Obama instead of McCain then quite frankly they are complete and total morons who should be booted into space...without the shuttle.

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IMO, media bias is less about who is breaking a story, and more about (a far more dangerous) selective publicizing. I think that a network can break a bunch of partisan stories from both sides of the aisle without showing bias, it's when they start to choose to analyze certain stories over others that bias occurs.

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This is idiotic and a weak attempt at a smear.

Since we're bringing up brothers, why not talk about Obama's brother living in a shack in Africa. He could live off a thousand American bucks for decades, but his brother Barry lets him suffer.

McCain can be President with a moron for a brother, remember Bill Clinton's stoner/criminal/idiot brother. Then there was Hillary's criminal brother who got one of the few hundred last-second pardons of the Clinton's partners-in-crime on the way out of the White House.

Hey, I'm just using the Fairness Doctrine here. ;)

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[quote=firstdown;493516]Like I said the liberal media is going to be throwing all this crap out to help Obama in any way they can. Matty is just making my point by posting this stuff.[/quote]

Obama has been very successful at creating a mass following of mindless robots to repeat whatever he asks. I'll give him credit for that.

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kind of like Bill OReilley, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity? and pick any of the idiots at fox

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The way I see it is this would have been news no matter who it was. An idiot calls 911 to complain about traffic, swears at the operator, and then has the balls to call back and complain about being warned that calling 911 for a non-emergency is against the law. Wow. You can't make up this shit, and on top of all that it's McRage's brother? Priceless.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495018]The way I see it is this would have been news no matter who it was. An idiot calls 911 to complain about traffic, swears at the operator, and then has the balls to call back and complain about being warned that calling 911 for a non-emergency is against the law. Wow. You can't make up this shit, and on top of all that it's McRage's brother? Priceless.[/quote]

I agree and I was too quick to jump on the media bias slant for this one.

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Obama's brother lives in a tarpaper shack in Kenya. They also just found his aunt living in a Boston slum. She had been "missing" as far as BHO was concerned. His father left BHO and his mother because he got a college scholarship (he let him keep the name). Everybody has fucked up relatives.