Why McCain Is Getting Hosed in the Press
 

The Project for Excellence in Journalism’s researchers found that John McCain, over the six weeks since the Republican convention, got four times as many negative stories as positive ones. The study found six out of 10 McCain stories were negative.

What’s more, Obama had more than twice as many positive stories (36 percent) as McCain — and just half the percentage of negative (29 percent).

You call that balanced?

OK, let’s just get this over with: Yes, in the closing weeks of this election, John McCain and Sarah Palin are getting hosed in the press, and at Politico.

And, yes, based on a combined 35 years in the news business we’d take an educated guess — nothing so scientific as a Pew study — that Obama will win the votes of probably 80 percent or more of journalists covering the 2008 election. Most political journalists we know are centrists — instinctually skeptical of ideological zealotry — but with at least a mild liberal tilt to their thinking, particularly on social issues.

So what?

[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14982.html]Why McCain is getting hosed in the press - John F. Harris and Jim VandeHei - Politico.com[/url]

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probably has something to do with being treated like the ugly step child the last 8 years. the current administration has manipulated the press to the likes that had never been seen before. that, and the way the McCain camp has handled his V.P. pick

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[quote=SmootSmack;495048]The Project for Excellence in Journalism’s researchers found that John McCain, over the six weeks since the Republican convention, got four times as many negative stories as positive ones. The study found six out of 10 McCain stories were negative.

What’s more, Obama had more than twice as many positive stories (36 percent) as McCain — and just half the percentage of negative (29 percent).

You call that balanced?

OK, let’s just get this over with: Yes, in the closing weeks of this election, John McCain and Sarah Palin are getting hosed in the press, and at Politico.

And, yes, based on a combined 35 years in the news business we’d take an educated guess — nothing so scientific as a Pew study — that Obama will win the votes of probably 80 percent or more of journalists covering the 2008 election. Most political journalists we know are centrists — instinctually skeptical of ideological zealotry — but with at least a mild liberal tilt to their thinking, particularly on social issues.

So what?

[URL="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14982.html"]Why McCain is getting hosed in the press - John F. Harris and Jim VandeHei - Politico.com[/URL][/quote]
Ok, see I'm not so crazy. It happens every election, and every election an article like this will surface showing the medias bias. It will get worse everyday until after the election or until after 7:00pm on Tuesday when it is no longer needed.

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I had trouble getting the link up and when I did the writer used their bias to explain their bias and the bias reporting. For example. They say McCain has moved more to the right and use this as a reason why he has negative articles. They ignore the fact that Obama has moved from the far left to the middle so they never question his past records? they also say Obama has the momentium on his side so he gets the more positive reporting. If McCain had the positive momentium they would be attacking him even more and would be pumping up Obama more.

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[quote=dmek25;495051]probably has something to do with being treated like the ugly step child the last 8 years. the current administration has manipulated the press to the likes that had never been seen before. that, and the way the McCain camp has handled his V.P. pick[/quote]
Bush wasn't elected he was appointed by the Supreme Court anyway, Kerry got "swift-boated", War in Iraq, tax breaks for Big Oil, :blah:

All the typical liberal buzz phrases don't account for the more and more overtly blatant liberal bias in the so-called "main stream" media.

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and besides, its just like sports. the winning teams always get more coverage. and McCain has been around for quite some time. who knows how many of the press he has pissed off

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If it bleeds it leads? The McCain campaign has been hemorrhaging of late, no? Folks, don't blame vultures for encircling a decaying carcass, it's in their nature.

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has anyone that had voted for Bush ever admitted he is nothing but a screw up? or, at the very least, he has made some very poor judgement in regards to decision making? why is it always someone else's fault? look, i voted for Gore. once it was over, too me, it was over. all the bull crap that followed was a total waste of time. i voted for Cater, who was about as lame as they came. but the republicans just keep saying all this turmoil in the United States is everyone's fault but the commander in chief. why not get off your high horses, and join the working man, so you can see the troubles thru his eyes

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[quote=dmek25;495073]has anyone that had voted for Bush ever admitted he is nothing but a screw up? or, at the very least, he has made some very poor judgement in regards to decision making? why is it always someone else's fault? look, i voted for Gore. once it was over, too me, it was over. all the bull crap that followed was a total waste of time. i voted for Cater, who was about as lame as they came. but the republicans just keep saying all this turmoil in the United States is everyone's fault but the commander in chief. why not get off your high horses, and join the working man, so you can see the troubles thru his eyes[/quote]

And this rant has what to do with the article?

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my bad. i just like people to take responsibility for their actions. and it seems like people are trying to find excuses for why McCain cant win

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You reap what you sow. McRage is running a negative campaign (which he was supposedly against) and I think people are tired of it. Obama has taken the high road for the most part and is talking about the issues vs. stupid and petty personal attacks. Overall it just sounds like sour grapes and excuses from a doomed and sloppily run campaign. The Republicans have run a piss poor and unfocused campaign, why can't people just admit it?

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yeah, when then only thing someone remembers about your campaign is that you've spent most of you're time telling lies about obama the muslim, obama the one to pal around with terrorists, etc over your actual stances on issues... well, that's not good. and palin's gaffes in limited media interactions haven't been kind either.

I voted for mccain in 2000, and i wish that was the guy running today, instead of this pandering hodgepodge with a terrible VP pick.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495117]You reap what you sow. McRage is running a negative campaign (which he was supposedly against) and I think people are tired of it. Obama has taken the high road for the most part and is talking about the issues vs. stupid and petty personal attacks. Overall it just sounds like sour grapes and excuses from a doomed and sloppily run campaign. The Republicans have run a piss poor and unfocused campaign, why can't people just admit it?[/quote]

Couldn't have been better said. Could also add that Grandpa Grouch has made an insane number of gaffes throughout while Obama has had literally one or two. Everyone talks about Barack's comment on guns and religion. Seriously, governors and house reps are saying worse about their own constituents because NEWS FLASH FOLKS: SOME AMERICANS ARE F'ING SICK AND TIRED OF THE BIGOTRY.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495117]You reap what you sow. McRage is running a negative campaign (which he was supposedly against) and I think people are tired of it. Obama has taken the high road for the most part and is talking about the issues vs. stupid and petty personal attacks. Overall it just sounds like sour grapes and excuses from a doomed and sloppily run campaign. The Republicans have run a piss poor and unfocused campaign, why can't people just admit it?[/quote]

The things that tended to make McCain appealing when he was just a Senator are his downfall now, his candor, openness, etc. He really ultimately has no to blame but himself. He allowed himself to get sucked in by the far-right for the purpose of basically winning at all costs. He hasn't lost yet, but all signs point to it and it's largely due to running a poor campaign. As a whole Republicans ran poor campaigns this year.

Obama, meanwhile, is running an extremely tight ship. I suppose 12thMan can better vouch for this, but I was speaking to an old colleague of mine who is now covering the Obama campaign but who I used to work with covering the Skins a few years back and he said Obama is basically Marty Schottenheimer. It's just an extremely regimented and focused campaign, where (unlike the McCain campaign where seemingly any one from McCain down to the lowest volunteer speaks whenever they want) almost no one whispers a word without Obama clearing it first.

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It is obvious the media leans a bit to the left, but overly bias I say no. Clearly the media, along with 70 percent of America does not approve of the Bush administration, and the truth is McCain is supported by the same base that is die hard for Bush.

More importantly, is it wrong to be liberal if that may be the better direction for this nation? I don't know, but I think it's a valid question.

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[quote=dmek25;495082]my bad. i just like people to take responsibility for their actions. and it seems like people are trying to find excuses for why McCain cant win[/quote]

A liberal who wants people to take responsibility for their actions? :confused:

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my views are all the place. i don't think there is one catch phrase to describe me:) as far as McCain, his campaign has been all over the map. he did not talk about change, until well into it( when he sensed it was working for obama) his choice of Palin is a joke. his views on just about every major issue have been going back and forth. which really surprises me. if there was one thing the G.O.P is good at, its running a campaign. just ask Kerry, and Gore

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[quote=dmek25;495227]my views are all the place. i don't think there is one catch phrase to describe me:) as far as McCain, his campaign has been all over the map. he did not talk about change, until well into it( when he sensed it was working for obama) his choice of Palin is a joke. his views on just about every major issue have been going back and forth. which really surprises me. if there was one thing the G.O.P is good at, its running a campaign. just ask Kerry, and Gore[/quote]
OK what major issues has he changed his mind and how?

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[quote=dmek25;495227]my views are all the place. i don't think there is one catch phrase to describe me:) as far as McCain, his campaign has been all over the map. he did not talk about change, until well into it( when he sensed it was working for obama) his choice of Palin is a joke. his views on just about every major issue have been going back and forth. which really surprises me. [B]if there was one thing the G.O.P is good at, its running a campaign. just ask Kerry, and Gore[/B][/quote]

I think in the past what they were good at was running negative campaigns and distracting people from the real issues with crap like gay marriage and fear mongering (what happened to the terror alerts? I miss those, lol). People have finally wised up and given the current economic conditions nobody wants to hear that crap anymore. People are seeing right through it for a change. The wheels have come off the Republican machine, they need to regroup and reinvent themselves for the future.

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[quote=firstdown;495234]OK what major issues has he changed his mind and how?[/quote]


Can you spot the stupidity? Hint, there a couple.

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No I'm not watching another one of your videos. You made the statement so back it up.

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The video say all that needs to be said and it answers your question. He contradicts himself in one sitting. If you don't want to watch the video I understand. It's hard to watch these videos sometimes because of the mind blowing retardation of your preferred candidate.

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So another liberal making claims that that won't back up.

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lol the irony is hilarious. Socialism is ok if you're hooking up the big guys, with the tax payer's money of course. Gotta love it.

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Maybe comedy is not for you and maybe I'm just tired of leading a hydrated horse to water. Se la vi mon ami.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495249]lol the irony is hilarious. Socialism is ok if you're hooking up the big guys, with the tax payer's money of course. Gotta love it.[/quote]

Did you catch the bit about "built up through labor and hard work" with him (the moocher) and Cindy (daddy's little inheritor) sitting right there. It's all delightful stuff.

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" nobody that i know, that framed the constitution" man, i knew he was old, but the constitution?

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and first, all you have to do is look at the bailout. he says he is against it. but voted for it. he says he is against pork, but that bill was loaded with pork. he was against Bush's tax cuts, but now he wants more. he said Iraq would be easy, and the U.S. looked at as liberators. now he wants us there permanently

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[quote=saden1;495254]Did you catch the bit about "built up through labor and hard work" with him (the moocher) and Cindy (daddy's little inheritor) sitting right there. It's all delightful stuff.[/quote]

It's totally ridiculous... and those that can't see it amaze me, or maybe they just refuse to see it which is probably worse. He's all over the map on issues from one minute to the next. I'm for tax cuts, now I'm against them, now I'm for them, I'm for gay marriage, now I'm not, now I am... etc.

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OK so you cannot back what you say.

I also cannot believe the total disrespect shown to McCain by calling him McRage, retard after the service he gave to his country. I do not agree with Obama's views but I do respect what he has done and would not show him that kind of disrespect.

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What do you want me to back up? McCain talks out of both sides of his mouth like clock work. Also, you seem to think he is entitled to some sort of special treatment because he served his country? I'm sorry but no one, demarcate or republican, should be allowed to getaway with stupidity. If you think otherwise John Kerry would have appreciated that kind of treatment.

I'm inclined to believe that McCain is a simple stupid man...the alternative is that he is a liar and a dishonarable man...I might be wrong though.

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I tend to think McCain is overall a good person, but this campaign has made him lose the values and ideals that are core to him. But his catering to the base(which he has not been close with before at all) and he negative/false attacks on Obama just seem to be below the McCain people had know.

Very un-maverick, and it is just really disappointing to see.

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And by attacks I mean:
-Ayers
-Acorn
-"terrorist"(not his attack, but he should go farther to call out some of his crazy supporter)
-and now this "socialism" bullshit. It isn't spreading around wealth, if you tax more and put those dollars into things like schools, infrastructure, etc.

I dont see why people think Obama is going to take money from the rich, and go to the inner city an give that money directly to the poor. That is just a fabrication by the McCain campaign and it is bullshit. Very low.

I think the majority of educated America realize this and they are just sick of it.

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I don't see to many journalist who are moderates (*cough* Keith Olberman *cough*). Fox News claims to be "Fair and Balanced" but thats a joke in and of itself. My best example was during the whole lipstick on a pig incident most of their analyst were singing the praises of the fact that McCain was ahead in the polls. Since Obama took back the lead the only thing I hear about is what McCain needs to do to take back the lead. Then theres Sean Hannity who litterally sounds like a broken record.

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hilarious sig btw dirtbag

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McRage refers to a joke that was on SNL, so relax. I guess this just proves my point that righties have no sense of humor. Regardless, I don't have much respect for him as a politician, so McRage it is!

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[quote=firstdown;495286]OK so you cannot back what you say.

I also cannot believe the total disrespect shown to McCain by calling him McRage, retard after the service he gave to his country. I do not agree with Obama's views but I do respect what he has done and would not show him that kind of disrespect.[/quote]

McCain is many things, but a retard? Pretty harsh.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495331]McRage refers to a joke that was on SNL, so relax. I guess this just proves my point that righties have no sense of humor. Regardless, I don't have much respect for him as a politician, so McRage it is![/quote]

I guess if all the "righties" start referring to Obama as "BHO the Towelhead" then the lefties should laugh it off right?

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[quote=mheisig;495349]I guess if all the "righties" start referring to Obama as "BHO the Towelhead" then the lefties should laugh it off right?[/quote]

I don't have a problem with a little ribbing, but towelhead is taking it a little too far though wouldn't you say?

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[quote=Mattyk72;495352]I don't have a problem with a little ribbing, but towelhead is taking it a little too far though wouldn't you say?[/quote]

Hard to say. Seems like we're just drawing arbitrary lines in the sand, so who's to say? If it's as funny to me as "McRage" is to you, why not?

How about "Karl Marx Jr."?

How about "Skeletor the Socialist"?

I'm all for political humor in the appropriate context and there's no problem with humor pushing the envelope. Humor that never rises above name calling just never struck me as that funny, at least not since I was about eight years old.

Starting nearly ever sentence or comment about a particular candidate with the SNL nickname of the day makes you look like a 3rd grader and marginalizes everything that follows it, no matter how serious or humorous. It doesn't make anyone look hip or wise to pop culture, it just makes the speaker look unintelligent.

I don't care what side of the political spectrum you're on (because it's rampant at both ends), starting everything off with a nickname is about as asinine as it gets. Why not just hold up a giant sign that says, "I'm a close minded zealot who turned his brain off and is incapable of considering an issue or at least conveying humor in something that rises above name calling." It'll have about the same affect.

For as much whining as there is about all the mudslinging and dirty campaigns and call for everyone to return to the issues, there sure is a lot of petty bickering. It's pretty obvious [B]how[/B] things degenerate to this point of unproductive nastiness when the best anyone can muster is a play on the candidates last name.