Frost AVAILABLE! Who's in!?
 

I say bring back FROST! Supposedly Green Bay is dropping him!

[url=http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/35318719.html]McCarthy's day-after press conference: Panthers game - JSOnline[/url]

McCarthy's day-after press conference: Panthers game
By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel
Dec. 1, 2008

Green Bay - Mike McCarthy has started his press conference:

* Derrick Frost will be released today. The Packers don't even have a replacement ready. That's how bad they want him out.
* Matt Flynn will be the holder.
* McCarthy said injuries have not been a deciding factor as to the peformance of the special teams
* The team will spend a lot of time on special teams this week.
* McCarthy knew Scott Wells had a concussion after the fumble.
* McCarthy does not regret the playcall to John Kuhn because the linebackers were in pass coverage.
* He did think a lot about going for it on fourth down. They would have run it again: same play as the second-down play.
* McCarthy said the performance of the special teams has "been way out of bounds" in regards to the other team.
* Meeting today will be spent on what has gone wrong.
* Ryan Grant is still the starter. Jackson may get some more carries.
* Kenny Pettway had a ligament tear and is likely out for the seaosn.
* Bigby has a shoulder sprain.
* Nick Collins has a hip contusion and may miss a couple days.
* I don't think I've ever seen our defense give up rushing touchdowns like that.
* "I liked what I saw in our secondary," McCarthy said about Woodson.
* Nick Collins did "not make a huge mistake" on the first Steve Smith reception. Looked like Collins jumped a crossing route on the play.
* McCarthy didn't want to say whether releasing Jon Ryan was a mistake. "I don't want to go there."
* Why are the Packers 1-4 in close games compared to 5-1 last year? "The quarterback is just one position. It's certainly important but it's just one position...I don't recall being in three-point games and having minus-200 in field position last year either. I think it's convenient criticism (one changing QB). I think our quarterback position has played at a high level this season. I don't think it's been a question at all."

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I say bring back Frost and try out Tony Zendejas!

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No thanks.

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Wow, they think he's so bad that they'd rather go without a punter at all (for now) than call him their guy. :rofl:

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Nope. I am ok with Plack for the rest of the season, not Suisham, but lack has been fine. Quite frankly, punter is the least of our concerns.

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Hmm, wonder what JLC has to say about this one?

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There is a reason he was cut by two teams within a couple of months.

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explain to me why in the world you want that bum back?

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Our special teams coaches sure know how to bring in some talent. Bravo! Our punter competition this year was between two players that couldn't make a single NFL roster and the replacement Ryan(Value Meal) Wackemeier is just as bad.

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[quote=wilsowilso;506593]Our punter competition this year was between two players that couldn't make a single NFL roster and the replacement Ryan(Value Meal) Wackemeier is just as bad.[/quote]

Plack is plenty servicable. He'd look a lot better if the gunners weren't allergic to downing the ball BEFORE it hit's the endzone.

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[quote=Southpaw;506594]Plack is plenty servicable. He'd look a lot better if the gunners weren't allergic to downing the ball BEFORE it hit's the endzone.[/quote]

Ya I have seen at least 3 punts that could have easily been pinned down at the 3 yard line or less if not for our gaffes. Heck the one he basically had the ball resting on the 1 yard line before Rock came flying in and jumped on it like it was a landmine and rolled into the endzone.

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Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter.

Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both?

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Plack is a bit slow, but we just need to make sure we execute protection well and we are fine. Suisham is a big problem IMO, but Zorn said he isn't looking for any competition right now.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;506674]Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter.

Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both?[/quote]

I figure the motions and skills required are very different. Times in the past I think the Skins have had the punter play as the kicker(or vice versa?) when there was an injury. The results weren't too great.

But yea I don't see why they wouldn't try to do both. Maybe there is some kind of secret K/PR guild union to maximize jobs.

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[quote=hooskins;506678]I figure the motions and skills required are very different. Times in the past I think the Skins have had the punter play as the kicker(or vice versa?) when there was an injury. The results weren't too great.

But yea I don't see why they wouldn't try to do both. Maybe there is some kind of secret K/PR guild union to maximize jobs.[/quote]No doubt it would take extra work on the kickers part. I don't expect that even the best kicker could just start punting any time. I'm just wondering if its something we'll start to see in the future.

Do you think the secret K/PR guild is in any way connected to the tribe of jockeys that live under most race tracks?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;506684]No doubt it would take extra work on the kickers part. I don't expect that even the best kicker could just start punting any time. I'm just wondering if its something we'll start to see in the future.

Do you think the secret K/PR guild is in any way connected to the tribe of jockeys that live under most race tracks?[/quote]
i believe the punter from Tennesee used to kick field goals also..the ones over 50

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Who here remembers Steve Cox?

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Frost had problems here and we released him.

He had problems at GB and they released him. I don't see any reason to bring him back. At all.

You try Plack for the rest of the season and then reevaluate in the off-season.

I[B]'m much more worried about our ST play in general and think Coach Smith will be replaced. Suisham is also digging a hole for himself. [/B]

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Bring back Frost why? Wasn't there a reason we cut him in the first place? Let the Placky dude finish out the year at least, he has his clubfoot moments, but otherwise I think he's been somewhat consistent.

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[quote=SmootSmack;506691]Who here remembers Steve Cox?[/quote]

I do,the last breed of the straight on kicker,he was even after Mosley,he could boom it pretty good

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;506674]Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter.

Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both?[/quote]

ever heard of Russell Erxleben?
has the record for longest fg in ncaa,67 yrds,drafted by saints to do both,couldnt cut it,mostly just punted

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Why on earth have we not gone back to whoever held the ball last year. Squeeze was hitting better last year. Did we let the poor sap go who held the ball last year?

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[quote=SBXVII;506773]Why on earth have we not gone back to whoever held the ball last year. Squeeze was hitting better last year. Did we let the poor sap go who held the ball last year?[/quote]That would be Frosty :(

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The Redskins got rid of Frost to validate the draft pick of Durant Brooks. I thought Frost was a great holder and a young punter with some promise. So why fire Durant Brooks to bring in Plakenmeier? And we're keeping Suisham?

I remember Steve Cox. Always thought he looked so weird playing football.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;506674]Plac seems a little shaky on the holds for field goal attempts. Other than that, I think he's been just fine as our punter.

Random question: how is it that no kicker has figured out how to be both a team's placekicker and punter? I would think that with every roster spot being so valuable a team (especially one like the Patriots) who try to find a guy who can do both in order to save a spot. Are they really so different that one guy can't spend his time getting good at both?[/quote]

it is different.. kickers aren't exactly known for working as hard, plus.. punters get worn down on their own, kickers too if it's a fg heavy team

and if that guy goes down, you have to bring 2 guys in anyways

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I'd say try colt in on holding, did he do that any in college?