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lets get rid of this loser. anything beyond 40 yards he cant kick.

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The one he hit was from 43.

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i agree he needs to go, hes guaranteed a miss a game on very make able kicks, hes too inconsistent to keep around... although he wasnt the reason we lost today,

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LMAO. The best kicker in the NFL wouldn't change anything for this offense. Not being argumentative here, just pointing out Suisham is really no worse at his position than say, half the offensive line.

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[quote=Mattyk72;509040]The one he hit was from 43.[/quote]

And then last week he missed one from 43. This guy is Russian roulette, you never know when the bullet is gonna be in the chamber with him.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;509046]And then last week he missed one from 43. This guy is Russian roulette, you never know when the bullet is gonna be in the chamber with him.[/quote]

I was simply responding to the OP that said anything beyond 40 he can't hit. That's obviously not true.

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colt brennan should be doing the kicking!!

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[quote=htownskinfan;509081]colt brennan should be doing the kicking!![/quote]

I'm down with that. Colt is a one man team. He should kick, punt, QB, WR and then get in there with the DL and cause a pass rush.

I'm so there.

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Once kickers lose their mojo they rarely gain it back (ask Mike Vanderjagt.)

Get rid of him, anyone can miss kicks.

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I was thinking Colt should play RT and LT at the same time.

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[quote=Daseal;509117]Once kickers lose their mojo they rarely gain it back (ask Mike Vanderjagt.)

Get rid of him, anyone can miss kicks.[/quote]

Suisham had mojo? Who did he play for then?

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[quote=drew54;509120]I was thinking Colt should play RT and LT at the same time.[/quote]

Damn you for doubting Colt's abilities. I've followed him since he was in utero and he is capable of simultaneously playing all 5 offensive line positions......kneeling down......while asleep.

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[quote=The Goat;509139]Suisham had mojo? Who did he play for then?[/quote]

at the beginning of this year and the beginning of last year he was confident and making kicks

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I actually agree. Unless Suisham is injured, he needs to be cut. If he is injured, he needs to be placed on IR so we can sign another guy.

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Who do we pickup??? I don't see who is out there. I rather stick with Shaun for this year and see if he picks it up.

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If there's an improvement out there, fine sign him up and cut Suisham.

But looking back we might we probably should have just held on to Brooks at punter. Plackemeier blows.

So with Suisham, I just don't see the point right now. Ride him out and reevaluate things in the offseason.

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Maybe we can draft one in the 6th.

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[quote=Mattyk72;509185]If there's an improvement out there, fine sign him up and cut Suisham.

[B] But looking back we might we probably should have just held on to Brooks at punter. Plackemeier blows. [/B]

So with Suisham, I just don't see the point right now. Ride him out and reevaluate things in the offseason.[/quote]Amen.

Releasing Suisham does nothing. We have no idea of knowing how close he is to breaking through his mental block. No kicker is immune to these things. Today, the one he missed was from 48, so it's possible he might have missed it anyway even if he was "feelin it".

If you cut Suisham, and bring in the next guy, you haven't solved anything. FG kicking is unreliable by nature, and we should be going for it when at all possible.

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Which is not to be saying that we should be turning a blind eye to a kicker [I]upgrade[/I], but if you cut Suisham before you know for sure that someone else who is more established is available, you're likely just going to downgrade at the position. See: Plackemeier, Ryan.

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get this scrub out of here

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kicking is mental. brookes was fired due to inconsistency.

I think the problem is with the coach. there is no part of the Special Teams which is playing well. It's all below average or less. it's not just Suisham

Coach Danny Smith is a holdover from the Gibbs era. I believe he will be replaced with a coach that Zorn picks - then the entire Special Teams area will be rebuilt and re-organized.

This is a change for the offseason.

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Plackemeier seems to have been punting from midfield quite a bit.. but he isn't pinning it as far back as I'd like to see... I'm not sure he's a big downgrade from Brooks though, you guys remembering something that I'm not?

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Plackemeier is near the bottom in the league in punting, I think the graphic in the game said 31st, that's not due strictly to field position. I don't recall him ever getting off a nice boomer this year.

We swapped one bad punter for another, not sure what the point was now.

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Its not shaun suisham, lets all admit it's Campbell!!! He is a Limp D__K.. And besides Jim zorn was a smart coach he wouldnt have let him kick from that far.. It all comes down to Campbell.. He Always Chokes during the big game! if i wanted someone who chokes during the big game i would want Freakn Tony Romo on my team! Its time to start the Colt Brennan "watch"!!

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[quote=Mattyk72;509209]Plackemeier is near the bottom in the league in punting, I think the graphic in the game said 31st, that's not due strictly to field position. I don't recall him ever getting off a nice boomer this year.

We swapped one bad punter for another, not sure what the point was now.[/quote]

Exactly. At some point you've just got to play out the season and make some tough decisions in the off season. If anyone listened to some ppl in these threads we'd only have our backups to finish the season.

Best to see who finishes out strong and whether some players get their confidence back in the end.

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Suisham does suck, being short on those 2 kicks against the Cowgirls and Giants (I think) was inexcusable. His miss tonight looked like it had the distance, just pushed it to the right. However, I don't think that at this point in the season there is anyone out there who will be much of an upgrade, if at all. So, in sum, Suisham sucks, but at this point you're not going to do much better.

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[quote=Rock Your Face;509217]Suisham does suck, being short on those 2 kicks against the Cowgirls and Giants (I think) was inexcusable. His miss tonight looked like it had the distance, just pushed it to the right. However, I don't think that at this point in the season there is anyone out there who will be much of an upgrade, if at all. So, in sum, Suisham sucks, but at this point you're not going to do much better.[/quote]

Alas, logic!

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We need a kicker. It's the only way we score.

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It's too late for a change now but I would definitely look into an upgrade for next year.

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[quote=Mattyk72;509185]If there's an improvement out there, fine sign him up and cut Suisham.

But looking back we might we probably should have just held on to Brooks at punter. Plackemeier blows.

So with Suisham, I just don't see the point right now. Ride him out and reevaluate things in the offseason.[/quote]

This is true and if you think back Suisham was off to a great start this year when Brooks was holding for him. That may just be a cooncidence or replacing Brooks with another bad punter may have given us two bad kickers.

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[quote=Mattyk72;509051]I was simply responding to the OP that said anything beyond 40 he can't hit. That's obviously not true.[/quote]


broken clock is right twice a day...

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It's stupid and reactionary to blame Suisham for the loss and to demand that he gets cut. The Goat is right- should we cut half the offensive line as well? What about the receivers? They didn't do much. And Campbell? 2 INT's as well as a fumble that wasn't called. Yeah, Suisham is a Russian Roulette beyond 40 yards. Nevertheless, he has connected two thirds of attempts beyond 40 and has only missed one less than 40. I find it hard to believe that people don't understand how much worse our kicking game could be. Who do we replace him with? What kicker out there, who is currently unemployed because he wasn't able to get the job done with other teams, is suddenly going to come in and start hitting more than 70% of field goals beyond 40 yards?

Be smart here. If there is a better kicker available, then by all means, we should sign him. But unless you have a suggestion, stop the reactionary nonsense and get over the fact that the Redskins offense sucks, and that's why we lose games.

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Suisham isn't the problem with our offense, but he is a big problem on special teams. In the last 4 games, he's been awful, going 4 for 8 on field goal attempts. That's not bad, that's wretched. I could forgive a 4 game slump, even of this magnitude, had he played well earlier in the season, but he didn't. He was bad on field goal attempts AND kickoffs.

I could sign just about any free agent kicker and reasonably expect him to hit more than 50% of his attempts, or even 70% of his attempts (which is Suisham's accuracy on field goals through the course of the season).

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Did you all notice the stare down that JZ gave him after he missed that 1st field goal!?? He was steaming. yeah it was a 48 yarder. But it wasn't even close!

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[quote=Takeuon;509317]Did you all notice the stare down that JZ gave him after he missed that 1st field goal!?? He was steaming. yeah it was a 48 yarder. But it wasn't even close![/quote]

Yes, it looked exactly like MY reaction to another choke.

2009 F/A kickers, we NEED to get one of these guys, even if it costs more money than a kicker is usually worth. Suisham kills us. We've been playing without a good kicker since Lohmiller.

Robbie Gould (would be GREAT but the Bears love him)
Shayne Graham (great choice)
John Kasay (how OLD is he?)
Mike Nugent (another fine choice)
Matt Stover (another golden oldie)
Tyler Jones (Who? Who cares, he's not Suisham)

I'd love to get Gould, but he's probably not going anywhere, so Graham is my second choice. Still young enough to keep for a long time.

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[quote=Buster;509484]Yes, it looked exactly like MY reaction to another choke.

2009 F/A kickers, we NEED to get one of these guys, even if it costs more money than a kicker is usually worth. Suisham kills us. We've been playing without a good kicker since Lohmiller.

Robbie Gould (would be GREAT but the Bears love him)
Shayne Graham (great choice)
John Kasay (how OLD is he?)
Mike Nugent (another fine choice)
Matt Stover (another golden oldie)
Tyler Jones (Who? Who cares, he's not Suisham)

I'd love to get Gould, but he's probably not going anywhere, so Graham is my second choice. Still young enough to keep for a long time.[/quote]

I'd love to have Gould as well, but he signed a 5 year extension in May and is the league's richest kicker....

[url=http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?STORY_ID=4689]Gould signs five-year extension through 2013 season - Chicago Bears[/url]

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SS has missed more kicks than any other NFL kicker. That could also be because we cannot score TD's so he kicks more often.

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[quote=Mattyk72;509051]I was simply responding to the OP that said anything beyond 40 he can't hit. That's obviously not true.[/quote]

well he doesnt make enough.......that is obviously true

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[quote=Coff;509311]It's stupid and reactionary to blame Suisham for the loss and to demand that he gets cut. The Goat is right- should we cut half the offensive line as well? What about the receivers? They didn't do much. And Campbell? 2 INT's as well as a fumble that wasn't called. Yeah, Suisham is a Russian Roulette beyond 40 yards. Nevertheless, he has connected two thirds of attempts beyond 40 and has only missed one less than 40. I find it hard to believe that people don't understand how much worse our kicking game could be. Who do we replace him with? What kicker out there, who is currently unemployed because he wasn't able to get the job done with other teams, is suddenly going to come in and start hitting more than 70% of field goals beyond 40 yards?

Be smart here. If there is a better kicker available, then by all means, we should sign him. But unless you have a suggestion, stop the reactionary nonsense and get over the fact that the Redskins offense sucks, and that's why we lose games.[/quote]

well there is.......a better kicker than him somewhere out there right now....that isnt reactionary, he is consistently missing fields goals for a team that needs every point it can get.......we arent even asking him to be consistent from 50, its from inside of 50, and he cant do it, he never has done it either, and when you miss field goals it takes the life out of your offense.............we are the only team in the league that cant say we are in field goal range when we reach the 35 yard line.......only one.

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I think John Hall and Derrick Frost are available.