Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath
 

Okay, so we're much better off in terms of playoff picture than we were at the beginning of the day. Go us! This of course assumes that we'll be able to field 11 guys on offense next week, which appears to be up in the air. If we have to play with 9, we'll only be a small favorite to beat the Bengals.

All playoff situations are based on the assumption that the Redskins will win their final three games. Probably a stretch to think we'll beat Philly at this point, but if we beat the Bengals by three, 90% of the people on this site will pick us to win. That's the way Skins fans are.

#1, everyone root for Tampa tomorrow night. It will give us the best chance to make the playoffs.

Teams that we need losses from to make the playoffs include 2 of the three: Carolina, Atlanta, and Dallas

[B]We catch the Cowboys if [/B]they lose to either the Giants or the Eagles.

[B]We catch the Falcons if [/B]they lose another game (Tampa, Minnesota, St. Louis)

[B]We catch the Panthers if [/B]they lose to Tampa tomorrow night, and then lose two out of their final three games.

And we just need two out of the three to happen in order to pull off a wild card birth.

Basically, win out and were in.

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The first two are a heck of a lot more likely.

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Carolina is vs. Denver, and then @ Giants, and @ Saints to finish.

The Giants will beat them pretty easily. Denver and New Orleans both [I]could[/I] beat them, and it's likely that one of them will.

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I think were near-eliminated in all scenarios where we don't beat Philadelphia. I know for a fact that our best possible finish in the division is 3rd, so we would need Carolina to lose out (unlikely) and Atlanta to lose two out of three to have a shot (difficult, considering they play the Rams). Assuming that Philly doesn't lose to Cleveland (not happening) we would also need them AND the Giants to beat Dallas.

Basically, our chances of making the playoffs go from 80% if we go 3-0 and beat Philly, to about 15% if we simply take care of business against weaker opponents, but lose to a better Philadelphia team, finishing up at 9-7.

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What about going 2-1 and beating Philly?

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How about we get a win and then start this conversation.

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This seems very much like last year, where we were counted out at the beginning of December, came back strong and got in. Like GTripp said, win out and we are in.
[B]But[/B], we all knew JG knew how to win in December, he had proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last night's game did nothing to encourage me that the offense will find its spark.

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Personally I think we had to win last night. It sucks to say it but I think the dream that once was the playoffs is now over for the Washington Redskins.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;509264]This seems very much like last year, where we were counted out at the beginning of December, came back strong and got in. Like GTripp said, win out and we are in.
[B]But[/B], we all knew JG knew how to win in December, he had proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last night's game did nothing to encourage me that the offense will find its spark.[/quote]

Last year we blew four games consecutively that we should have won. Even though we were 5-7 with four to play we could all argue plausibly that we should have been at worst 7-5. This year we are getting dominated down the stretch. The fact that it has been dominant defenses punching us in the mouth isn't much of a silver lining for me.

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[quote=Twilbert07;509248]How about we get a win and then start this conversation.[/quote]

Nice, I was waiting for this kind of post..

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[quote=hooskins;509271]Nice, I was waiting for this kind of post..[/quote]

So, you think we have a good shot, huh?

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[quote=SeasonTicketHolder;509272]So, you think we have a good shot, huh?[/quote]

We are easily the best team in the NFL.

But seriously, why can't we talk playoffs if it's still an option? I don't really get that. If people think it's bad luck then just ignore the thread and don't waste everyone's time by posting and telling people how they should think.

At one point we had a chance to tie the game, even with how shitty we played. That gives me hope we can go 2-1 easily. As for Philly, we'll see. Who knows....

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We can talk all kinds of scenarios, but the one thing that doesn't seem to be happening is the number in our W column going up. Also, whether you like Campbell or not, he is 2-6 in December games and is on the decline this year, according to this from today's Washington Post:

Campbell will also have to listen to another week of questions about the offense he leads. While virtually every offensive skill player has seen his numbers plummet during the team's 1-4 skid, Campbell's statistical regression has been stark. When Washington was 6-2, Campbell had eight touchdowns and zero interceptions. In the five games since, he's thrown three touchdowns and six interceptions, with all the interceptions coming in losses. Campbell averaged just 219 yards passing in the team's first eight games, but that number has dipped to 205 over his past five.

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What makes anyone even think we deserve to be in the payoffs. I personally don't!
Even if we were to make it.....it will be the same result as last season.

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Best possible scenario:
The Cowboys will absolutely lose to the Ravens and probably the Giants. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose to Philly too.
The Falcons will lose to at least the Bucs and possibly the Vikings (Peterson will run wild on them).
Panthers lose to TB tonight (I'll be the biggest TB fan in the stands tonight), the Broncos next week and either the Giants or the Saints (giving us the better Conf record and thus the tie-breaker). They struggled against the Raiders, Lions and Packers and were blown out by the Falcons so losing all 4 wouldn't be surprising.
Of course it's moot if we don't finish 10-6 but it gives me a reason to get excited and cheering for other teams to win (Go Bucs!).
Don't be shocked if the last game of the season (4:15, Was at SF) settles the wildcards.

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This is Jim Mora Sr. moment. Playoffs!! Playoffs!! Part of me doesn't want us to make it, save us the embarrassment of getting our asses kicked all over the field like the last couple of weeks.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;509264]This seems very much like last year, where we were counted out at the beginning of December, came back strong and got in. Like GTripp said, win out and we are in.
[B]But[/B], we all knew JG knew how to win in December, he had proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last night's game did nothing to encourage me that the offense will find its spark.[/quote]

The difference from last year is that we had a QB step in and spark a fire in the offense that won five games straight. Jason Campbell hasn't proven that he can win by his performance alone. That's why even the playoffs were a real possibility, we would be one and done.

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The difference between this year and last isn't just on the QB. The OL was playing well at this time last year and the running game was really clicking too. Let's not think it was all on Collins.

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[quote=GTripp0012;509238]Okay, so we're much better off in terms of playoff picture than we were at the beginning of the day. Go us! This of course assumes that we'll be able to field 11 guys on offense next week, which appears to be up in the air. If we have to play with 9, we'll only be a small favorite to beat the Bengals.

All playoff situations are based on the assumption that the Redskins will win their final three games. Probably a stretch to think we'll beat Philly at this point, but if we beat the Bengals by three, 90% of the people on this site will pick us to win. That's the way Skins fans are.

#1, everyone root for Tampa tomorrow night. It will give us the best chance to make the playoffs.

Teams that we need losses from to make the playoffs include 2 of the three: Carolina, Atlanta, and Dallas

[B]We catch the Cowboys if [/B]they lose to either the Giants or the Eagles.

[B]We catch the Falcons if [/B]they lose another game (Tampa, Minnesota, St. Louis)

[B]We catch the Panthers if [/B]they lose to Tampa tomorrow night, and then lose two out of their final three games.

And we just need two out of the three to happen in order to pull off a wild card birth.

Basically, win out and were in.[/quote]

I just don't understand how anyone can talk playoffs when we can't win a game. We're simply not a playoff team.

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I think we'll go 9-7 but that won't be enough.

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Yeah....I don't see us beating the Eagles in two weeks. Since McNabb was benched it lit a fire under his ass & is playing quite well. Not to mention Westbrook who notoriously racks up yards on us is healthy. San Fran won't go down w/out a fight last game of the season at THEIR house.

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[quote=skinsfan69;509386]I just don't understand how anyone can talk playoffs when we can't win a game. We're simply not a playoff team.[/quote]

Thank you!!

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It's hard to talk about playoffs, when your favorite team struggles to score 10 points. The Washington Redskins offense does not look like a professional team. They look more like a high school team. The offense is horrible. It looks like the worse offense in the league. Without Portis, this offense is totally ineffective. It starts up front and extends to every member of the offense. It's just not happening. Changing quarterbacks will not help. It would just be a different person getting slammed to the ground. It was very embarrasing watching a team that can't lineup correctly or take a shotgun snap or having your quarterback consistently put in long third down situations and getting slammed everytime because pass rushers are unblocked. This happened against the Steelers, Giants, Cowboys and now the Ravens.

PLAYOFFS...WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANY STINKING PLAYOFFS!

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[quote=GTripp0012;509238]Okay, so we're much better off in terms of playoff picture than we were at the beginning of the day. Go us! This of course assumes that we'll be able to field 11 guys on offense next week, which appears to be up in the air. If we have to play with 9, we'll only be a small favorite to beat the Bengals.

All playoff situations are based on the assumption that the Redskins will win their final three games. Probably a stretch to think we'll beat Philly at this point, but if we beat the Bengals by three, 90% of the people on this site will pick us to win. That's the way Skins fans are.

#1, everyone root for Tampa tomorrow night. It will give us the best chance to make the playoffs.

Teams that we need losses from to make the playoffs include 2 of the three: Carolina, Atlanta, and Dallas

[B]We catch the Cowboys if [/B]they lose to either the Giants or the Eagles.

[B]We catch the Falcons if [/B]they lose another game (Tampa, Minnesota, St. Louis)

[B]We catch the Panthers if [/B]they lose to Tampa tomorrow night, and then lose two out of their final three games.

And we just need two out of the three to happen in order to pull off a wild card birth.

Basically, win out and were in.[/quote]

thank you gtripp, i really need this. it has raised my spirits alil.

go skins!!!

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[quote=skinsfan69;509386]I just don't understand how anyone can talk playoffs when we can't win a game. We're simply not a playoff team.[/quote]Yeah. Why didn't I learn my lesson last year?!

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This team hasn't shown up to home games that could have made a difference, and I doubt they'll show up to any of the remaining games. I think making the playoffs right now would be important to get JC playoff experience, but I think the team is too beat up, too underachieving and too late to make the playoffs.

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[quote=GTripp0012;509410]Yeah. Why didn't I learn my lesson last year?![/quote]

Yeah but you're forgetting one thing in your thread. You're leaving out that fact that we have to win. And right now how in the world do you see us beating Philly or SF? Cinn is not going to be a walk in the park. Just looking how we're playing. I just don't see how you think we can make the playoffs. Especially w/out Samuels. The proof is on the field, not what Dalls, Atl or Philly does.

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[quote=skinsfan69;509429]Yeah but you're forgetting one thing in your thread. You're leaving out that fact that we have to win. And right now how in the world do you see us beating Philly or SF? Cinn is not going to be a walk in the park. Just looking how we're playing. I just don't see how you think we can make the playoffs. Especially w/out Samuels. The proof is on the field, not what Dalls, Atl or Philly does.[/quote]Right now, I don't see us beating Philly. We might not even beat San Francisco. But I think we'll be favored to beat San Francisco. And, you know, maybe it will be a windy, snowy, passing averse day when we play the Eagles.

I don't think you can just mark it down as a loss right now. Being the underdog doesn't mean you shouldn't show up.

And if we do beat the Eagles, then we're probably going to the playoffs.

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[quote=GTripp0012;509431]Right now, I don't see us beating Philly. We might not even beat San Francisco. But I think we'll be favored to beat San Francisco. And, you know, maybe it will be a windy, snowy, passing averse day when we play the Eagles.

I don't think you can just mark it down as a loss right now. Being the underdog doesn't mean you shouldn't show up.

And if we do beat the Eagles, then we're probably going to the playoffs.[/quote]

Well all I know is Dallas, Atl and Philly are ahead of us. Can we get in? Yes. Is it likely? No.

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Next week will be fun if for no other reason than it looks like Palmer may be starting for the Bengals...Jordan Palmer.

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The way we have been playing, we may not even beat cincy. After seeing what the 49ers did to the jets it dont look good there. I dont even want to think about philly the way we have been playing. Mcnabb will look like an all pro when he plays us in a couple of weeks.

There is always next year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;509374]This is Jim Mora Sr. moment. Playoffs!! Playoffs!! Part of me doesn't want us to make it, save us the embarrassment of getting our asses kicked all over the field like the last couple of weeks.[/quote]

Amen to that.

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Is there going to be a time when someone starts a thread like ...." Draft picture after the Cincy game Aftermath." ? Anyone?.....Anyone?

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[quote=SBXVII;509650]Is there going to be a time when someone starts a thread like ...." Draft picture after the Cincy game Aftermath." ? Anyone?.....Anyone?[/quote]

I'm sure someone will continue to bring up the playoffs until we're not mathematically eliminated. Since apparently mediocre play is going to help us get pass the first round, if we could still somehow make it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;509666]I'm sure someone will continue to bring up the playoffs until we're not mathematically eliminated. Since apparently mediocre play is going to help us get pass the first round, if we could still somehow make it.[/quote]I think if we get into the playoffs with the 6th seed and end up getting killed in the first round by Arizona or Minnesota, we would owe no apologies to anyone.

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[quote=GTripp0012;509667]I think if we get into the playoffs with the 6th seed and end up getting killed in the first round by Arizona or Minnesota, we would owe no apologies to anyone.[/quote]

All kidding aside, I think it would be great for JC to have a playoff game under his belt. Even if it is in a losing effort and against all odds, let him get a taste of the pressure that a playoff game brings.

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So a perfect weekend would be NYG, Tampa, and the Skins (of course) all winning. Chances?

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We'll see what changes in protections Zorn has in store without Samuels being in the line up. Lewis will bring the house on passing situtaions.