The pick for Taylor?
 

Was it defiantely a second round pick? Cause it'd be great if it was conditional. He hasn't played all that great.

Also, with James doing almost nothing before being cut does Minnesota still get the seventh round pick?

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

They gave up a seventh round pick for James if he made the roster, which he did.

So, counting Jason Taylor's trade, that's [B]THREE DRAFT PICKS [/B]for [B]ONE SACK[/B].

Brilliant, Vinny. Just brilliant.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=Beemnseven;511179]They gave up a seventh round pick for James if he made the roster, which he did.

So, counting Jason Taylor's trade, that's [B]THREE DRAFT PICKS [/B]for [B]ONE SACK[/B].

Brilliant, Vinny. Just brilliant.[/quote]

No, that's not what this is about. We needed bodies if nothing else. I was just hoping it might drop down to a third or fourth for Taylor.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

Taylor and James are both good players we should be blaming Blanche and the D line coach for not using them right. Not Vinny for taking a chance trying to help us win.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;511338]Taylor and James are both good players we should be blaming Blanche and the D line coach for not using them right. Not Vinny for taking a chance trying to help us win.[/quote]

James is gone. Cut for OL help.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

Yup, at the time I thought we got a great player and at a bad price. Now I think we got a washed up and one-dimensional player at an absolutely awful price. We got hosed.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=Beemnseven;511179]They gave up a seventh round pick for James if he made the roster, which he did.

So, counting Jason Taylor's trade, that's [B]THREE DRAFT PICKS [/B]for [B]ONE SACK[/B].

Brilliant, Vinny. Just brilliant.[/quote]
You have to give Dan and Vinny credit for being consistant ,,, 2 picks for Loyd , 2 for duckett , 4 for JC , 3 for Rocky , 2 for M. white , 2 for Kendall and 2 for L. Coles .

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=Beemnseven;511179]They gave up a seventh round pick for James if he made the roster, which he did.

So, counting Jason Taylor's trade, that's [B]THREE DRAFT PICKS [/B]for [B]ONE SACK[/B].

Brilliant, Vinny. Just brilliant.[/quote]

Correction, 1.5 sacks thank you very much. Ha what r u stup3d? :P

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;511646]Yup, at the time I thought we got a great player and at a bad price. Now I think we got a washed up and one-dimensional player at an absolutely awful price. We got hosed.[/quote]I would say that Bill Parcells knows a little more about selecting personnel to build a winner than Vinny. The fact that he made it no secret that he wanted rid of JT should have been a red flag for all takers. The Tuna schooled Cerrato on this one.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

Taylor in hindsight was a bad move, at the time I admit I liked it though.

Now I'm wondering what that pick could have been. A starter along one of the lines would have been real nice.

How many picks are we down in this draft now?

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=Joe Kidd;512259]Taylor in hindsight was a bad move, at the time I admit I liked it though.

Now I'm wondering what that pick could have been. A starter along one of the lines would have been real nice.

How many picks are we down in this draft now?[/quote]

1st - Still hold
2nd - Traded to Mia for Jason Taylor
3rd - Still hold
4th - Traded to NYJ for Pete Kendall
5th - Still hold
6th - Still hold
7th - Traded to Min for Erasmus James

So that would make 4 of 7 picks that the Skins still have as of today.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

Of course, if you want to feel mildly better about the Taylor trade, we can recall that Dallas traded a 1st, 3rd, and 6th for Roy Williams (plus a monster contract). And he may have contributed less in Dallas than Taylor has in Washington (if that is possible). OK, it isn't possible, but 14 catches, 182 yards, 1 td in eight games still borders on useless.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;512297]1st - Still hold
2nd - Traded to Mia for Jason Taylor
3rd - Still hold
4th - Traded to NYJ for Pete Kendall
5th - Still hold
6th - Still hold
7th - Traded to Min for Erasmus James

So that would make 4 of 7 picks that the Skins still have as of today.[/quote]

Yuck.

It makes the development of last year's class even more important. Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Rinehart all better be big contributors next year.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;512300]Of course, if you want to feel mildly better about the Taylor trade, we can recall that Dallas traded a 1st, 3rd, and 6th for Roy Williams (plus a monster contract). And he may have contributed less in Dallas than Taylor has in Washington (if that is possible). OK, it isn't possible, but 14 catches, 182 yards, 1 td in eight games still borders on useless.[/quote]

That trade for Williams was laughable. He's not even one of the better WRs in the league. They paid a huge price and it's going to hurt them down the road.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=Joe Kidd;512307]Yuck.

It makes the development of last year's class even more important. Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Rinehart all better be big contributors next year.[/quote]


Yep. They have 4 picks for all you "get a linemen" folks out their. So what do we do? Try for Haynesworth for the D-line and draft the #1 spot as an O-lineman? I truely wonder.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;512300]Of course, if you want to feel mildly better about the Taylor trade, we can recall that Dallas traded a 1st, 3rd, and 6th for Roy Williams (plus a monster contract). And he may have contributed less in Dallas than Taylor has in Washington (if that is possible). OK, it isn't possible, but 14 catches, 182 yards, 1 td in eight games still borders on useless.[/quote]
They did get hosed on that one, but at least Williams is still pretty young and seems to want to play and have a successful career, whereas Taylor is old and wants a nice segway into the studio.

I'm not all that upset about throwing away our draft picks on veterans though because God knows we'd have just ended up taking a bunch of crappy rookies anyways (only kind of kidding).

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;512300]Of course, if you want to feel mildly better about the Taylor trade, we can recall that Dallas traded a 1st, 3rd, and 6th for Roy Williams (plus a monster contract). And he may have contributed less in Dallas than Taylor has in Washington (if that is possible). OK, it isn't possible, but 14 catches, 182 yards, 1 td in eight games still borders on useless.[/quote]

I would rather have Williams then Taylor. Williams is very young still and is talented. He will be a NO 1 reciever and make it easier to part with TO. He is new to the team and they have lots of offensive weapons so he wasn't going to come in and take over this year.

Say what you want about Parcells, but he has proven that he can build a team and if he didn't want Taylor then there was a good reason. He was just lucky to find Vinny who couldn't help himself. Of course the way we draft, maybe not having the second round pick will just be less misery we have to go thru after this years draft and another wasted top pick.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

I hated the high price for Taylor, but when the deal was made I thought it was decent & that there was a change JT would have something to prove.

He actually looked good yesterday, but for the most part Evans has been better. That's a lot of $ & a 2nd round pick gone. Hopefully Vinny can trade out of the first to get a 2nd round pick like last draft.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=budw38;511726]You have to give Dan and Vinny credit for being consistant ,,, 2 picks for Loyd , 2 for duckett , 4 for JC , 3 for Rocky , 2 for M. white , 2 for Kendall and 2 for L. Coles .[/quote]

We only gave up one pick for Kendall. Doesn't change the fact that Vinny and Dan are complete idiots.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

yeah screw this trading picks for old vets stuff....it DOESNT PAN OUT. Has there been one wiley old vet weve traded for that has truly been worth it?

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

[quote=doughtydoubter;512493]yeah screw this trading picks for old vets stuff....it DOESNT PAN OUT. Has there been one wiley old vet weve traded for that has truly been worth it?[/quote]

Picking up Kendall was not a bad trade. We'll end up giving up a 4th after getting two solid seasons (and that is probably it) from the guy. He helped solidify a line that had major injuries last year (and again at the end of 2008) and one that had absolutely no one to play left guard after the FO let Dockery walk (not saying they should have paid him what Buffalo did, but they should have come stronger in early negotiations and maybe gotten him locked up during 2006).

Taylor made some sense at the time, and I think the majority of us were fairly positive about the move in July (given the circumstances). Watching the guy play on Sunday, though, he is just stealing a paycheck these days. The stats tell part of the story, but the tape tells an even worse one. He doesn't even care anymore and shows zero effort. Time to send him packing to Hollywood.

Re: The pick for Taylor?
 

Dockery was one that got away but he wasn't worth the big money that Buffalo gave him. Kendall has been a solid band aid but we need to work on finding his replacement.