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murphy196 12-18-2008 12:11 PM

Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Since the season is basically over and there is no hope in making the playoffs, why not let Colt Start against the 49ers and see what he can do? It's a great opportunity to see if he can run our offense since Campbell hasn't really done too much.

maroonandblack30 12-18-2008 12:20 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
ad nauseum....

but seriously, he is the 3rd Stinger.... why would he jump over Collins. Not going to happen

Daseal 12-18-2008 12:27 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote]why would he jump over Collins.[/quote]

We know what Collins is, we don't know what Colt is. No reason to not try playing the young guys, see what they have in a game with live bullets. If we were in the playoff hunt and Campbell went down, definitely go Collins.

Regardless, I think Campbell should stay in. He needs the practice, timing with his receivers, etc.

JLW428 12-18-2008 12:27 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Haven't we discussed this in about a million other threads in the past 2 weeks? IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN! GET OVER IT!

Hog1 12-18-2008 12:38 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=JLW428;513286]Haven't we discussed this in about a million other threads in the past 2 weeks? IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN! GET OVER IT![/quote]
Prior to last weeks loss, we were technically still in contention. That has changed. The loss changed the rules. It would be nice to see what Colt can do. It has already been mentioned, but Collins is a known quantity.

dmek25 12-18-2008 12:42 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
are we really sure about what Campbell can do? i for one, am not. just say no to Brennen

thomasfan31 12-18-2008 12:46 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Vick will be out soon...should we get him?

irish 12-18-2008 12:51 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=maroonandblack30;513283]ad nauseum....

but seriously, he is the 3rd Stinger.... why would he jump over Collins. Not going to happen[/quote]

If Colt starts the games listed as the #3 QB by rule he cant come in or start unless both guys above him get hurt.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-18-2008 12:51 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=dmek25;513290]are we really sure about what Campbell can do? i for one, am not. just say no to Brennen[/quote]Exactly, which is why we ought to leave Campbell in. I don't think we know what he's truly capable of yet, and though one game probably won't show us a whole lot, there's no reason not to leave him in and see if he can start to build some kind trust with his younger receivers.

Skinny Tee 12-18-2008 12:53 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=Daseal;513285]We know what Collins is, we don't know what Colt is. No reason to not try playing the young guys, see what they have in a game with live bullets. If we were in the playoff hunt and Campbell went down, definitely go Collins.

Regardless, I think Campbell should stay in. He needs the practice, timing with his receivers, etc.[/quote]


We haven't seen what Campbell can do because our offensive line breaks the designed play with terrible protection. We would be able to judge Campbell better if he had protection time to make mistakes. We can't even gauge Campbell's performances becasue of the inability to pass protect.

That same offensive line would be "protecting" Colt. How can we gauge Colt's performance if the play is continually busted.


Once we build a fundamentally sound line we can start seeing what inefficiencies our quarterbacks have.

maroonandblack30 12-18-2008 01:05 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=irish;513294]If Colt starts the games listed as the #3 QB by rule he cant come in or start unless both guys above him get hurt.[/quote]

exactly

redskins5044 12-18-2008 01:05 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=Hog1;513288]Prior to last weeks loss, we were technically still in contention. That has changed. The loss changed the rules. It would be nice to see what Colt can do. It has already been mentioned, but Collins is a known quantity.[/quote]

we are technincally still in the playoff contention. lol. found a article in the washington times, were a writer put what the skins need to make the playoffs. all we need is the falcon, bucs, eagles too lose there last 2 games. then the bears have to lose one of there last 2 games. have the cowboys win there last 2 games. i thinks thats it. oh by the way the falcons play the rams and the bucs have a game v.s. the raiders, so i say our chances look good. not. we just need to lose these last 2 games so we can get a better draft position.

redskins5044 12-18-2008 01:07 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=irish;513294]If Colt starts the games listed as the #3 QB by rule he cant come in or start unless both guys above him get hurt.[/quote]

thats if he is listed as the #3 qb prior to that game. if we wanted to we could list him #1 or #2 QB.

Hog1 12-18-2008 01:09 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=redskins5044;513302]we are technincally still in the playoff contention. lol. found a article in the washington times, were a writer put what the skins need to make the playoffs. all we need is the falcon, bucs, eagles too lose there last 2 games. then the bears have to lose one of there last 2 games. have the cowboys win there last 2 games. i thinks thats it. oh by the way the falcons play the rams and the bucs have a game v.s. the raiders, so i say our chances look good. not. we just need to lose these last 2 games so we can get a better draft position.[/quote]

I had no idea. THAT does change things. We better play JC to lock this thing up

chillinhoover 12-18-2008 01:17 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
I'm tired of hearing about Colt. He could be a nice player, but I hope he never see's the feild with us. We need to Stick by J-Cam. Read Sally Jenkins article today on Jason, it will change your mind on giving up on him so soon.

Paintrain 12-18-2008 01:20 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=thomasfan31;513291]Vick will be out soon...should we get him?[/quote]

Different thread for a different time, but I would argue YES! As offenses in the league evolve a bit and incorporate more 'wildcat' type plays can you think of a better 'weapon' to have as a change up? As a QB, definitely not, but as an offensive 'weapon' I think we'd be foolish not to consider him.


Back on topic, no to Brennan. He's a backup now, was drafted to be a backup and will always be a backup. There's no reason to "see what we have" when we are still trying to get everyone on the same page with our starting offense as it is!

budw38 12-18-2008 01:20 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Why not start Collins for 1 game ? If the offense looks the same < 10 pts/game > , then so be it ,,, if however we score 27 points we will have a better idea of why we cannot score , line or qb play .

Paintrain 12-18-2008 01:23 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=maroonandblack30;513301]exactly[/quote]

Actually wrong. He can come in at any point, regardless of circumstance. The rule is if he enters before the 4th quarter, the other 2 quarterbacks cannot enter the game at any point.

Hog1 12-18-2008 01:29 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=chillinhoover;513307]I'm tired of hearing about Colt. He could be a nice player, but I hope he never see's the feild with us. We need to Stick by J-Cam. Read Sally Jenkins article today on Jason, it will change your mind on giving up on him so soon.[/quote]
I do not advocate giving up on anybody, especially JC, as I am BIG fan of his. However, to have potential resources and not research their value completely is a poor plan.
I do think Drew Bledsoe would agree with you, especially on the Tom Brady potentially starting issue

Joe Kidd 12-18-2008 01:31 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Is this for real?

Eknox 12-18-2008 01:39 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
We need to build in the trenches first

redsk1 12-18-2008 01:44 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=Paintrain;513308]Different thread for a different time, but I would argue YES! As offenses in the league evolve a bit and incorporate more 'wildcat' type plays can you think of a better 'weapon' to have as a change up? As a QB, definitely not, but as an offensive 'weapon' I think we'd be foolish not to consider him.


Back on topic, no to Brennan. He's a backup now, was drafted to be a backup and will always be a backup. There's no reason to "see what we have" when we are still trying to get everyone on the same page with our starting offense as it is![/quote]

I would argue yes as well, but another time.

Brennan: We are trying to find out what we have in JC. He needs all the snaps he can get. It's not like he's a 5-6 year starter.

Now next year, if we're in the same boat. Put someone else in. Go for it.

maroonandblack30 12-18-2008 01:45 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=Paintrain;513311]Actually wrong. He can come in at any point, regardless of circumstance. The rule is if he enters before the 4th quarter, the other 2 quarterbacks cannot enter the game at any point.[/quote]


OK, I think you are right. my bad.

53Fan 12-18-2008 01:47 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=Hog1;513304]I had no idea. THAT does change things. We better play JC to lock this thing up[/quote]

:laughing2 It's the 15th week of the season and we're still in the playoff hunt? Hell man, what's everybody complaining about?

GMScud 12-18-2008 02:05 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
ANOTHER Brennan thread? Stop. Please. Just stop.

SkinzzFan 12-18-2008 02:08 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Campbell is our QB this and beyond! Why would you take a game away from HIS development in this new offense? He's the starter and the more experience he gets the better off the team will be next season. I've seen thread after thread about replacing almost EVERYBODY on the team. This is their first year with Zorn as the Coach. Like it or not, there are going to be growing pains. I'm sick of watching the Skins get pushed around every year like the rest of you but constant change is what got the Redskins here. Give Zorn a chance (1 season is NOT enough time)! I really believe this team can and will evolve into something special under Zorn. Anyone who thought the Skins were going to win the Superbowl before the season started or even after the 6-2 start was just kidding themselves. We aren't there yet. Danny Boy needs to be patient and stay the course for once.

Pheeeeewww, now I'm out of breath.

HAIL!!

Skins4L 12-18-2008 02:11 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
wont happen...i think Campbell needs a vertical reciever opposite of Moss...and some O-Line help before i give up on him...he really hasnt made THAT MANY BAD DESCISIONS (only 6 INTS for a 7-7 team)...couple overthrows but...
IF ANYTHINGS GONNA CHANGE Lets go for Cassell next year.

SmootSmack 12-18-2008 02:14 PM

re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Changing the thread title. Seriously people, let's improve these thread titles. They should be a bit more descriptive. I saw "Colt Brennan" (the 3rd or 4th thread here with that exact title) and I thought maybe there was some breaking news, like he had been promoted to #2 QB for the remainder of the season.

53Fan 12-18-2008 02:20 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=SkinzzFan;513339]Campbell is our QB this and beyond! Why would you take a game away from HIS development in this new offense? He's the starter and the more experience he gets the better off the team will be next season. I've seen thread after thread about replacing almost EVERYBODY on the team. This is their first year with Zorn as the Coach. Like it or not, there are going to be growing pains. I'm sick of watching the Skins get pushed around every year like the rest of you but constant change is what got the Redskins here. Give Zorn a chance (1 season is NOT enough time)! I really believe this team can and will evolve into something special under Zorn. Anyone who thought the Skins were going to win the Superbowl before the season started or even after the 6-2 start was just kidding themselves. We aren't there yet. Danny Boy needs to be patient and stay the course for once.

Pheeeeewww, now I'm out of breath.

HAIL!![/quote]
Well said SkinnzFan. Well said.

murphy196 12-18-2008 02:43 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Although Campbell hasn't made many mistakes (6 Ints), he also hasn't made any big plays. Yes, the O line sucks, but what would it hurt to give Colt a chance to get in there and get his feet wet? I mean, he may surprise us and be able to get rid of the ball quicker and not completely stare down his receivers! If he looks like crap we can move forward and not have to revisit this issue in the future. In my opinion, I think we should throw him in there and see what he can do, just a thought. I've been a huge JC backer and defender, but I say we give Colt a chance to see what he can do.

JLW428 12-18-2008 02:47 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=GMScud;513333]ANOTHER Brennan thread? Stop. Please. Just stop.[/quote]

Thank you.

MTK 12-18-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;513342]Changing the thread title. Seriously people, let's improve these thread titles. They should be a bit more descriptive. I saw "Colt Brennan" (the 3rd or 4th thread here with that exact title) and I thought maybe there was some breaking news, like he had been promoted to #2 QB for the remainder of the season.[/quote]

Thread titles are definitely lacking in quality lately. We need to step it up.

Jake2008 12-18-2008 02:56 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
I wish they would throw Colt in there against Philly just to shut up all the Colt is the greatest fans and maybe we wouldn't have these threads anymore.

Dblock804 12-18-2008 03:20 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Put Vinny in behind center and see if we get a new line.

Coff 12-18-2008 03:22 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
We need to consider giving Colt playing time without the automatic assumption that it means he'd be threatening Campbell's job. He's a young, developing QB who could play an important role years down the road if Campbell gets hurt (assuming JC will be the QB then, which we all know he won't). The season is over, why not give young 2nd and 3rd stringers a chance to play? At the very least it will give us a reason to watch.

SmootSmack 12-18-2008 03:30 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=Dblock804;513363]Put Vinny in behind center and see if we get a new line.[/quote]

Classic!

30gut 12-18-2008 03:50 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=murphy196;513279]Since the season is basically over and there is no hope in making the playoffs, why not let Colt Start against the 49ers and see what he can do? It's a great opportunity to see if he can run our offense since Campbell hasn't really done too much.[/quote]

Jason isn't the problem.
Collins is the No.2.
And from what i saw at training camp, Colt isn't ready.
And Zorn isn't planning to give up the last 2 games.

DynamiteRave 12-18-2008 03:53 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Look, let's be real. Colt is a next season project. As for right now, I wouldn't mind seeing Collins get some playtime. Since I wanna see the Skins play spoiler against the Eagles, let JC start Sunday. But in the SF I'd like to see Collins have a go.

Dirtbag59 12-18-2008 04:40 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
Yes, if nothing more then to light a fire under JC's butt and hope that he has a Tavaris Jackson like turnaround.

atomicnixon 12-18-2008 05:11 PM

Re: Should We Give Brennan Playing Time Now?
 
[quote=JLW428;513286]Haven't we discussed this in about a million other threads in the past 2 weeks? IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN! GET OVER IT![/quote]

Lol... If we continue to play the way we have, the Eagles are going to blow us out, meaning we will probably see Collins come in for mop-up duty.


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