Jason Taylor says he's not worth $8 million
 

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Posted by Michael David Smith on December 18, 2008, 1:03 p.m.
[URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Redskins[/URL] defensive end Jason Taylor wanted to leave Miami and sign with Washington because he didn’t want to spend the twilight of his career on a rebuilding team.
But as it turned out, the Dolphins are spending December fighting for a playoff spot, while the Redskins have gone in the tank. And in a sign that the Dolphins made the right move by trading Taylor and the Redskins made the wrong one by giving up a draft pick for him, Taylor himself says he knows he’s not worth the money in his contract.
“I’m a realist,” Taylor said today on 106.7 WJFK, per Dan Steinberg of the [I]Washington Post[/I]. “You can tell me the truth, and I’m fine with that. Because at the end of the day, most of us know the truth and sometimes some guys are just afraid to admit it, but [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/12/jason_taylor_im_not_worth_8_mi.html"]I’m not worth 8 million dollars[/URL].”
Taylor also said he wouldn’t be surprised if the Redskins decide not to bring him back next season, reiterating that the Redskins would be completely justified if they don’t want him back because he’s not worth his salary.
Taylor has played in 11 games this year, starting eight. He has 1.5 sacks.

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I bet he still won't take a pay cut for next year though.

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I bet he would come back for a short 2-3 year new deal.

Either way, no way we're paying him $8M next year, that's the reality of it and he knows it.

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wow thats about all i can say, not many players can really be that honest with themselves.

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At least he's honest

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good man. lets reconstruct the contract and move on with it. next seasons a new one.

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I think this is him saying he would take a pay cut.

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He's already half way there. Part of the 12 step program is admission. lol. As someone stated before ...if he will redo his contract I say keep him and use him to spell Carter to keep fresh legs on the field. Go after another DE to play the other side from the draft. If he's not willing to redo contract tell him to have a nice day.

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Taylor needs to go he is horrible. Let some young blood step in and prove himself. What a waste this trade was. Tuna most have been so happy when he pulled this deal.

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We are like Florida to old washed up NFL talent. [I][B]Come to the Redskins get paid well for the twilight of your career, don't worry no one is expecting you to produce. [/B][/I]

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The Tuna was right and we were wrong. Just another example of why having a top notch guy running your organization is huge for long term success. It must be a bitter pill for Taylor to see Miami at 9-5 fighting for a division crown.

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Lets calm down. Jason Taylor had a pretty bad injury this year. If my memory serves, he played pretty well the first couple games. Getting some really good pressures on the QB -- then he hurt his calf pretty bad.

I'm more concerned with him retiring than the deal he has here.

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[quote=Daseal;513386]Lets calm down. Jason Taylor had a pretty bad injury this year. If my memory serves, he played pretty well the first couple games. Getting some really good pressures on the QB -- then he hurt his calf pretty bad.

I'm more concerned with him retiring than the deal he has here.[/quote]

Agreed. We all need to simmer down!

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You can't just say he sucks. Think about it. He had what looked like a serious, year ending injury. It was a miracle that he's even playing this year.

He then has a couple surgeries on his calf.

He's most likely about 50% this season.

He's talented and a HOF player. He didn't lose this much in one year.

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Pffftt. Parcells knew JT would be kicked in the leg and get some crazy blood clot that could have ended his life. Parcells is a genius.

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does he mean he's not worth 8 million or is he trying to say don't expect 8 million dollar performance out of me. 8 million isn't that much in the NFL anymore. I'm just saying.

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Who gives a crap about the money. A third round draft pick is worth a lot more than $8 million, and he's not worth that either.

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[quote=44ever;513400]does he mean he's not worth 8 million or is he trying to say don't expect 8 million dollar performance out of me. 8 million isn't that much in the NFL anymore. I'm just saying.[/quote]

He is the highest paid player on the Redskins. That says a lot.
He is [B]not[/B] the best player on the team, by a long shot, so his compensation seems incorrect.
This is the major problem with the practice of back loading contracts.

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[quote=Coff;513401]Who gives a crap about the money. A third round draft pick is worth a lot more than $8 million, and he's not worth that either.[/quote]

Hey Gord, it was a second round pick and a sixth next year that we gave up for Jason Taylor. Plus at the time we had $9M in cap space and we used it all on him. Great job by our FO. Imagine what we could have done with $9m in the free agent market.

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whats the problem? he was UNHEALTHY all season. i started a thread dedicated to this player/situation already...
if hes willing to take any paycut...8 mil...whatever....thats good enough for me...if he performs elite again next season...well then we finally made out.
But like i said in another thread...WE NEED more talent around him as well. If we can make a solid pickup like Haynesworth we wont feel the need to replace our ends so much. And we can stop worrying about sacking the quarterback.

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[quote=Skins4L;513409]whats the problem? he was UNHEALTHY all season. i started a thread dedicated to this player/situation already...
if hes willing to take any paycut...8 mil...whatever....thats good enough for me...if he performs elite again next season...well then we finally made out.
But like i said in another thread...WE NEED more talent around him as well. If we can make a solid pickup like Haynesworth we wont feel the need to replace our ends so much. And we can stop worrying about sacking the quarterback.[/quote]

I agree that the ends are not the problem, but i dont think we need to go for broke on Haynesworth.

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not worth the money but I'd hate to see him go

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hope he takes a pay cut if that what he thinks. He will rebound with the right coordinator and right player with him.

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lower contract and and give him less playing time to keep his legs fresh

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I'd love to bring him back at a cheaper price. He isn't healthy. At all. I'd like to see the guy suit up for us at least whole year healthy. I guarantee he can be very valuable to us.

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i think he would restructure too.....i heard the interview on the junkies radio show, they made a good point, its not him. not one guy on our dline has gotten to the quarterback. i am starting to think that greg blache is running a scheme that is so vanilla it is deteramental to the pass rush.........i think taylor wanted to agree with these assessments but stayed above the nonsense to avoid further locker room dissent. but its starting to make a whole lote of sense and taylor also said "though his production is down, this dog can still hunt, i just need to get comfortable and be in the right situations."

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they didnt seem to blitz alot but when they did(very rarely)they got good pressure. i just dont think it was often enough

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Good news is that we didn't do the moronic thing after the deal and sign him to a long term thing to lower the cap hit.

Don't worry though, there's still time to screw this one up.

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There's no reason at all that he SHOULD consider a pay cut, he signed this current deal in Miami when he was well worth the money. That contract was picked up by the Redskins in good faith.

The Dolphins ate ALL of Taylor's guarenteed money when he was dealt here, so here's what the Redskins should do once they decide that Taylor is not worth the money. Cut him. Negotiate a two year contract with him that pays him how we are expecting him to play. And if somebody wants him more than we do (trust me, there won't be), he's gone and all we lose is the 2nd round pick we've already lost anyway.

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I thought the part where he says he can still play and implies that he's not being used right here is being overlooked.

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It says in today's Post that the compartment syndrome that messed his leg up is still bleeding so obviously he's not and hasnt been 100% this year. I'm not saying he's worth $8mil but I dont think he's been able to really show what he can do.

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[quote=irish;513590]It says in today's Post that the compartment syndrome that messed his leg up is still bleeding so obviously he's not and hasnt been 100% this year. I'm not saying he's worth $8mil but I dont think he's been able to really show what he can do.[/quote]

Question is will he ever, I mean is this a condition he'll have to play and live with indefinitey?

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Could be an excellent situational pass rusher if he's healthy next year...not at 8 mil of course though.

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[quote=Defensewins;513403]He is the highest paid player on the Redskins. That says a lot.
He is [B]not[/B] the best player on the team, by a long shot, so his compensation seems incorrect.
This is the major problem with the practice of back loading contracts.[/quote]
How do you back load a two year contract and if I'm correct we just assumed his deal with the fins.

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[quote=SmootSmack;513593]Question is will he ever, I mean is this a condition he'll have to play and live with indefinitey?[/quote]

Good question and the article doesnt say. I cant believe that trying to play football is very good for the healing process.

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As said before, our ends would be a lot better if we could get pressure up the middle to help them out.

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[quote=44ever;513400]does he mean he's not worth 8 million or is he trying to say don't expect 8 million dollar performance out of me. [B]8 million isn't that much in the NFL anymore[/B]. I'm just saying.[/quote]

it makes him the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player on the skins next year if nothing changes. that 8 mill cap space, used wisely, could really have a major impact on our team next year. JT seems like a real professional, wish we had him when he was younger thoo.

go skins!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;513593]Question is will he ever, I mean is this a condition he'll have to play and live with indefinitey?[/quote]

just speculation on my part and reading into what JT said; i could see what he was saying as meaning he is going to retire after this year given his injury and last seasons drama . . . just didnt want to come out and make a personal "im retiring" statement when there are still games to focus on. professional move, for that he gets my respect if the speculation is correct.

go skins!!

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[quote=over the mountain;513688]it makes him the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player on the skins next year if nothing changes. that 8 mill cap space, used wisely, could really have a major impact on our team next year. JT seems like a real professional, wish we had him when he was younger thoo.

go skins!!![/quote]

Considering Carter is set to make close to 7M next year, thats 15M - about [I][U]1/8th of our 2009 cap [/U][/I]- for two DEs who can't rush the passer or stop the run. We would be fools to keep Taylor on the roster next year. That 8M would be far better spent going after haynesworth, suggs, OTs, extending Hall, etc... you know, things that can actually help us rebuild our team. Parcells was smart enough to know that a 34year old DE with hollywood aspirations and an 8.5M cap hit has no place on a team that is rebuilding. We should learn from our mistakes and move on.

Personally, I think Taylor is just trying to get out of his contract here so he can go play for a team he views as being a "contender" in 2009. If we're smart, we'll do exactly what Parcells did last year - hold on to him and hope a team that beleives it is "one player away from a superbowl" makes an offer. I would take a 4th rounder for him and be supremely happy. If not, then we can cut him.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;513719]Considering Carter is set to make close to 7M next year, thats 15M - about [I][U]1/8th of our 2009 cap [/U][/I]- for two DEs who can't rush the passer or stop the run. We would be fools to keep Taylor on the roster next year. That 8M would be far better spent going after haynesworth, suggs, OTs, extending Hall, etc... you know, things that can actually help us rebuild our team. Parcells was smart enough to know that a 34year old DE with hollywood aspirations and an 8.5M cap hit has no place on a team that is rebuilding. We should learn from our mistakes and move on.

Personally, I think Taylor is just trying to get out of his contract here so he can go play for a team he views as being a "contender" in 2009. If we're smart, we'll do exactly what Parcells did last year - hold on to him and hope a team that beleives it is "one player away from a superbowl" makes an offer. I would take a 4th rounder for him and be supremely happy. If not, then we can cut him.[/quote]

His 1 1/2 sacks are really going to bring the other teams fighting to sign him. Mabe we could even get a few teams fighting for him and throwing draft picks at us to make the deal happen.

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[quote=firstdown;513725]His 1 1/2 sacks are really going to bring the other teams fighting to sign him. Mabe we could even get a few teams fighting for him and throwing draft picks at us to make the deal happen.[/quote]

Possibly, but JT did blame the scheme (in a very politically correct way) and his injuries in the interview. It cant hurt us to hold on to him, atleast until we need the cap space to make moves. If he choses to retire, then i'm pretty sure we would get a 3rd round comp pick for him in 2010, wouldnt we?