One QB in the Draft, One Out
 

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Sanchez declared today, I like him a lot do you think he would be worth going for?

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[quote=cdskins26;520620]Sanchez declared today, I like him a lot do you think he would be worth going for?[/quote]

Why? :smashfrea

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[quote=Ruhskins;520669]Why? :smashfrea[/quote]

If we drafted Sanchez, the day JC throws his first interception next season, someone will start a thread saying he should be benched in favor of a Brennan-Sanchez rotation. They will form like Voltron and save the Redskins.

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[quote=GMScud;520686]If we drafted Sanchez, the day JC throws his first interception next season, someone will start a thread saying he should be benched in favor of a Brennan-Sanchez rotation. They will form like Voltron and save the Redskins.[/quote]Actually, it probably wouldn't take an interception, and probably not even the conclusion of the offseason, for someone to suggest that.

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Sanchez is nowhere near ready for the NFL. His decision-making is his biggest flaw- he tries to force things where they shouldn't go. The Skins need to stay away from him. His family, his teammates and his coach all told him to stay (not just for selfish reasons). Pete Carroll made a poignant statement:

“Mark’s chance to increase his value and become the top player in college football next year would have been worth $10-$20 million or more — likely more,” Carroll said. “One more year of running a team is almost priceless, so he lost the chance to fully prepare himself and become the very best he could be before going to the NFL. That’s why there’s a 62 percent failure rate for underclassmen quarterbacks.”

The only player Pete's been wrong on (in terms of advising an underclassmen to stay) has been Lofa Tatupu...

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Sanchez shouldn't be on our radar. The fact that Bradford decided to stay in probably says a lot about how much he doesn't want to end up on the Lions.

He most likely would have gone in the top 10 if not top 3, so it hurts us now that Detroit gets to pick one of the top players we covet (non-QB).

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This poor guy, regardless of the team his nickname through rookie year will be... Dirty Sanchez.

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I have a better idea. Why don't we draft some OL that aren't near 40 years of age, and groom Campbell into the signal caller most of us believe he'll become?

Sanchez. Pfft!

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[quote=itvnetop;520697]Sanchez is nowhere near ready for the NFL. His decision-making is his biggest flaw- he tries to force things where they shouldn't go. The Skins need to stay away from him. His family, his teammates and his coach all told him to stay (not just for selfish reasons). Pete Carroll made a poignant statement:

“Mark’s chance to increase his value and become the top player in college football next year would have been worth $10-$20 million or more — likely more,” Carroll said. “One more year of running a team is almost priceless, so he lost the chance to fully prepare himself and become the very best he could be before going to the NFL. That’s why there’s a 62 percent failure rate for underclassmen quarterbacks.”

The only player Pete's been wrong on (in terms of advising an underclassmen to stay) has been Lofa Tatupu...[/quote]Pretty much my thoughts on his decision. The fact that his coach gave him the same advice I would have makes me think he's going to have a pretty short NFL career.

I have him as my No. 6 QB in the draft, but he probably shouldn't be that high.

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[quote=GTripp0012;520706]Pretty much my thoughts on his decision. The fact that his coach gave him the same advice I would have makes me think he's going to have a pretty short NFL career.

[B]I have him as my No. 6 QB in the draft, but he probably shouldn't be that high.[/quote]
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Who do you have thats entering the draft ahead of him??

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[quote=WaldSkins;520718][/b]

Who do you have thats entering the draft ahead of him??[/quote]1. Graham Harrell, TTU
2. Matthew Stafford, Georgia
3. Nate Davis, Ball St.
4. Josh Freeman, KSU
5. Mike Reilly, Central Washington

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[quote=The Goat;520704]This poor guy, regardless of the team his nickname through rookie year will be... Dirty Sanchez.[/quote]

Poor bastard!!

[url=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dirty+sanchez]Urban Dictionary: dirty sanchez[/url]

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Huge mistake. He only started one year. He played well but it was apparent that he still needs more snaps under center. Not sure what the hell Sanzhez is thinking.

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No, next years class is going to be terrific if we need a QB. Teebow, Bradford, and McCoy means if we suck we might get a shot at one of them. I do not think the Skins are going to resign JC if he doesn't step up his game in '09. I say that since you know JC is going to ask for more $$$$$$$ and unless he is great next season, Vinny and co and going to say bye bye like Casserly did to Gus. Sure JC is better than Gus, but not by a whole lot, with the exception of his TD/INT ratio.

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[quote=skinsfan69;520735]Huge mistake. He only started one year. He played well but it was apparent that he still needs more snaps under center. Not sure what the hell Sanzhez is thinking.[/quote]


I agree wholeheartedly. The guy like it or not was surrounded by buku talent in a rather shitty conference. Sure they beat the hell out of Ohio State, but lost to the other OSU, which was the only other decent team in their conference. Penn St was a nice win, but the Big Ten is really becoming a weak conference anymore. Nobody wants to freeze their asses off in the Great Lakes region.

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[quote=GTripp0012;520728]1. Graham Harrell, TTU
2. Matthew Stafford, Georgia
3. Nate Davis, Ball St.
4. Josh Freeman, KSU
5. Mike Reilly, Central Washington[/quote]

i agree with the exception of mike riley haven't warmed up to him yet

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[quote=GusFrerotte;520736]No, next years class is going to be terrific if we need a QB. Teebow, Bradford, and McCoy means if we suck we might get a shot at one of them. I do not think the Skins are going to resign JC if he doesn't step up his game in '09. I say that since you know JC is going to ask for more $$$$$$$ and unless he is great next season, Vinny and co and going to say bye bye like Casserly did to Gus. Sure JC is better than Gus, but not by a whole lot, with the exception of his TD/INT ratio.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. They need to sure up the lines this year. If JC is a wash this year we have a shot for one of these guys in the next draft. Then he can sit on the bench as Colt eats sacks for two to three years. Either way we play our guys out and the next man steps up. What's up with Leinhert in Arizona anyway? I know that's not how you spell his name but fudge it. I don't think Todd Collins has much of a future in Washington.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;520755]My thoughts exactly. They need to sure up the lines this year. If JC is a wash this year we have a shot for one of these guys in the next draft. Then he can sit on the bench as Colt eats sacks for two to three years. Either way we play our guys out and the next man steps up. What's up with Leinhert in Arizona anyway? I know that's not how you spell his name but fudge it. [B]I don't think Todd Collins has much of a future in Washington.[/B][/quote]

I think he signed a 3 year extension before last season. My guess is he'll play at least one more season here, depending on how JC does this year. If JC proves he's worthy of being our QB for the foreseeable future, Collins will probably play out the next two seasons for us.

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bums all of them!

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[quote=GusFrerotte;520736]No, next years class is going to be terrific if we need a QB. Teebow, Bradford, and McCoy means if we suck we might get a shot at one of them. I do not think the Skins are going to resign JC if he doesn't step up his game in '09. I say that since you know JC is going to ask for more $$$$$$$ and unless he is great next season, Vinny and co and going to say bye bye like Casserly did to Gus. Sure JC is better than Gus, but not by a whole lot, with the exception of his TD/INT ratio.[/quote]

Yea, i was thinking of a way to say this...if JC's sucks next year (which i hope he continues to improve)...there should be some really good QB talent available. Bradford/McCoy are going to be good, i believe.

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Its hard to tell what college QBs will be good and which will be busts. I dont think anybody would have predicted such great success for Ryan, Flacco, & Rothlessberger while most thought Russell & Young would be gamers and they have been flops. IMO teams have to look for pro style QBs that played in pro style offenses in college to help maximize the chance for success.

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[quote=GMScud;520686]If we drafted Sanchez, the day JC throws his first interception next season, someone will start a thread saying he should be benched in favor of a Brennan-Sanchez rotation. They will form like Voltron and save the Redskins.[/quote]
Voltron! awesome!

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[quote=irish;520864]Its hard to tell what college QBs will be good and which will be busts. I dont think anybody would have predicted such great success for Ryan, Flacco, & Rothlessberger while most thought Russell & Young would be gamers and they have been flops. IMO teams have to look for pro style QBs that played in pro style offenses in college to help maximize the chance for success.[/quote]

The problem there is upside. Guys who have played in the pro style offense in college generally tend to be as good as they're going to get once they get into the pros. It's the Jeff Tedford theory. Look at some of the "can't miss" prospects he coached-David Carr, Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, Akili Smith.

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SC insiders are now saying that even Mark's agent (or is it his agent-to-be?) even told him to stay in school... even though there's speculation he could go anywhere from 3-9 in the draft, there is a huge possibility he could drop into the second round after combines.

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[quote=GTripp0012;520692]Actually, it probably wouldn't take an interception, and probably not even the conclusion of the offseason, for someone to suggest that.[/quote]

Heck I post that even before training camp.

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[quote=irish;520864]Its hard to tell what college QBs will be good and which will be busts. I dont think anybody would have predicted such great success for Ryan, Flacco, & Rothlessberger while most thought Russell & Young would be gamers and they have been flops. IMO teams have to look for pro style QBs that played in pro style offenses in college to help maximize the chance for success.[/quote]

I'm not sure if I'd say Young was a flop at this point.

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[quote=firstdown;520944]I'm not sure if I'd say Young was a flop at this point.[/quote]

Or JaMarcus Russell for that matter. He's shown flashes despite playing for a laughing stock team.

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[quote=#21Taylor4Ever;520705]I have a better idea. Why don't we draft some OL that aren't near 40 years of age, and groom Campbell into the signal caller most of us believe he'll become?

Sanchez. Pfft![/quote]

Well that's just.......a good idea.

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[quote=itvnetop;520940]SC insiders are now saying that even Mark's agent (or is it his agent-to-be?) even told him to stay in school... even though there's speculation he could go anywhere from 3-9 in the draft, there is a huge possibility he could drop into the second round after combines.[/quote]

Talked to a college scout today who projects him as mid-2nd round pick.

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[quote=SmootSmack;521047]Talked to a college scout today who projects him as mid-2nd round pick.[/quote]

Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. He's going to graduate in the spring and he's already been on the team for 4 years, plus he's got Bradford, McCoy, and Tebow to deal with in next year's draft. I think he made the right move, he's just not that great.

He was only a starter for one season. He never really played any tough road games, and when he did he struggled - Arizona, Oregon State. And his only really outstanding performances were the games that he had 2+ weeks to prepare for - Ohio State, Virginia, Penn St.

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[quote=GMScud;521064]Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. He's going to graduate in the spring and he's already been on the team for 4 years, plus he's got Bradford, McCoy, and Tebow to deal with in next year's draft. I think he made the right move, he's just not that great.

He was only a starter for one season. He never really played any tough road games, and when he did he struggled - Arizona, Oregon State. And his only really outstanding performances were the games that he had 2+ weeks to prepare for - Ohio State, Virginia, Penn St.[/quote]

Well he also said, again, that the Niners really like Sanchez but they are reluctant to take him with their 1st round pick though they might cave and take him anyway.

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If we can somehow move up and get Brian Orakpo that would be my choice!

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Gerald Mccoy would have been a good pick if he had come out this year