Room for disappointment in FA?
 

It's a simple proposition... after cutting Marcus our glaring needs this off-season were, and oddly still are, a starting (preferably franchise) caliber OT and a play-maker at SLB. FA has been exhilarating and equally impressive but the two biggest needs remain and now we're evidently tapped out on cap space to address either position in FA. So... we're left w/ the draft to make it happen. Trading down to get a 1st and 2nd round pick could yield two legit starters but may likely put a franchise player at either position out of reach (for example Andre Smith or Rey Maluauga). I'm not complaining here about the FO but just raising the concern. Our o-line was abysmal last year and needs further upgrading, but we're an injury away from being depleted at LB (already too thin for comfort). What should we do now...

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well, the golston for a pick option still exists i imagine, but vinny said we're keeping our guys, so i assume that's that.

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[quote=The Goat;532171]It's a simple proposition... after cutting Marcus our glaring needs this off-season were, and oddly still are, a starting (preferably franchise) caliber OT and a play-maker at SLB. FA has been exhilarating and equally impressive but the two biggest needs remain and now we're evidently tapped out on cap space to address either position in FA. So... we're left w/ the draft to make it happen. Trading down to get a 1st and 2nd round pick could yield two legit starters but may likely put a franchise player at either position out of reach (for example Andre Smith or Rey Maluauga). I'm not complaining here about the FO but just raising the concern. Our o-line was abysmal last year and needs further upgrading, but we're an injury away from being depleted at LB (already too thin for comfort). What should we do now...[/quote]

I like this thread because it provides the counter point to the people who are head over heels with the Haynesworth signing. Although our free agent pickups were huge they were not many and we're still in the same thin depth position that we were last season.

If we suffer even minor injuries we go down hard like we did last season after going 6-2. People get so caught up in the celebration frenzy that they don't see the macro problems we'll face down the road because the fact is our depth is still terrible.

Haynesworth's contract could have yielded at least 3 or 4 above average players at needed positions. Depth was a major liability for us last year. Signing multiple players at our needed positions in addition to the draft would have improved that liability going into the approaching season.

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I think the Haynesworth signing provides depth because it puts Golston and Montgomery back where they belong.

Plus lets not forget that we are only two days into free agency, we still have plenty of time to fill needs.

Yea we are thin at some positions but, we still have time to fill them

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If Haynesworth stays healthy through out the year then our D will be disruptive perhaps causing 3 and out or interceptions giving us more chances with the ball. I'm sure some of the guys that are worried ie; Golsten, Montgomery, and Alexander might be rotating to relieve AH and others but they could be used at DE perhaps as our heavy package. I think Talor is going to be moved used as a LB/DE. We lose Marcus and pick up Taylor for that position.

If they can get more draft picks then I get the feeling it's going to be used for OL. I was concerned about our CB also. Yes we have Hall, Rogers, Smoot, Westbrook, and Tryon. The two unknowns are Westbrook and Tryon. If Westbrook was so good why havn't we used him in the past instead of keeping him on the practice squad? and since he has always been there aparently showing nothing why did we pick him back up? Tryon did ok. He made a couple of good plays and a couple of bad plays. However it was his rookie yr so it's expected. I'm baffled with the Westbrook thing though. Even Tryon as a rookie got on the field over Westbrook. So I presume we will pick up another CB in later rounds of the draft or invite some UFA rookies.

It would be nice to see us pick up a big RT then relegate Jansen to backup. Could Heyer move to Guard? Then our only other concern would be getting a big Center. Someone around 300+ and about 6ft something.

So to cap maybe RT, C, LB and CB. If we can pull of more picks in later rounds also then maybe we'd be good.

People have mentioned RB. I'm excited at the two we picked up. Dominique Dorsey from Canada seems interesting and Anthony Alridge. Both are the speedy slasher types. In my book it would be nice to have one take Rocks spot and use them as punt and kick returns and have them available to fill in as the slasher we need to get to the outside once and a while or for pass catching.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532203][B]I like this thread because it provides the counter point to the people who are head over heels with the Haynesworth signing.[/B] Although our free agent pickups were huge they were not many and we're still in the same thin depth position that we were last season.

If we suffer even minor injuries we go down hard like we did last season after going 6-2. [B]People get so caught up in the celebration frenzy that they don't see the macro problems we'll face down the road because the fact is our depth is still terrible[/B].

Haynesworth's contract could have yielded at least [B]3 or 4 above average players at needed positions[/B]. Depth was a major liability for us last year. Signing multiple players at our needed positions in addition to the draft would have improved that liability going into the approaching season.[/quote]

Whats up Skinny, I like the thread also. But according to our poll over 60 percent are uncomfortable with the money. And I have'nt seen anyone head over heals for Haynesworth. There might have been, but I did'nt see it.

I agree with you we are still thin but had we not sined AH, we would not have picked up 3-4 above average guys. Maybe 2 IMO.

I think, at least for me the celebration has more to do with what the FO was able to accomplish with what they had to work with. I like the fact that they paid Hall instead of letting him go. I like that they got Doc back.

As far as AH. Well again I'm Happy and Scared at the same time but I am becoming more confident with the choice to go after him. we have a team full of above average players. What we needed was a show stopper, a Lawrence Taylor a Reggie White type of player. And AH definatly represents that. IMO.

We also have to be realistic If we had picked up 3 or 4 above average guys, would we really have more depth? I think above average guys want to start. Which means we would have probably cut the positions they would have filled.

I think we need one more season to become solid on both sides of the line. with or without AH. we would still need one more season.

IMO FO made the right moves. I like the Hall/AH combo better than the Hall/Canty combo which would have left us low on $$$ as well.

Just my perspective on things.

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It's a little to soon for me to start getting worried. We have'nt addressed all our needs but free agency isn't over and the draft has'nt started yet. We signed Hall when alot of us thought it was too late. Who would have figured we'd get Dockery? That means we just got younger with a starter at LG. Our d-line sucks! Sound familiar? I'm pretty sure AH improves our d-line. We've improved our team and have'nt even drafted yet. It is VERY possible to get a starting RT AND talented young OLB in the draft. Assuming we're done in free agency. The draft has'nt started yet and we've already improved our team. Maybe not the way we all would have liked, but I don't think there is any doubt we've improved. With only 4 picks in the draft we've already improved more than I expected, that's why I'm excited. To think we could address every need with our cap situation and only 4 picks would have been unreasonable but...... somehow we may still do it. Whether we trade down or not, we're still going to get some help in the draft.

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Have we not set the standard for disappointed in FA?

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[quote=That Guy;532174]well, the golston for a pick option still exists i imagine, but vinny said we're keeping our guys, so i assume that's that.[/quote]

I wouldn't trade Golston, the guy has a motor and I think he will keep improving. If I trade anyone it would be Betts and draft a young RB somewhere in the draft.

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I like our moves this year if the plan for the FO is to gather as much top talent they can this year in preparation for uncapped seasons following the '09 season. I'd really like that because that would mean that our FO actually has foresight.

But if that is the case this coming year is considered a gathering year and the following year is going to be slated as our competitive season. Once the cap goes away I think all this years spending is going to pay off. But if there is a cap then we are royally screwed this and next year....the Skins love their gamble.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532222]I like our moves this year if the plan for the FO is to gather as much top talent they can this year in preparation for uncapped seasons following the '09 season. I'd really like that because that would mean that our FO actually has foresight.

But if that is the case this coming year is considered a gathering year and the following year is going to be slated as our competitive season. Once the cap goes away I think all this years spending is going to pay off. [B]But if there is a cap then we are royally screwed this and next year.[/B]...the Skins love their gamble.[/quote]

How so exactly?

Do you really think the Skins are betting all their chips on no cap and have no backup plan in place?

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I would say the draft shall answer the need of tackle, and if there is a trade down, then it could answer both tackle and OLB on Day one.

At this point the front offense is probably zeroing in on finding that trade down scenerio, and is willing to trade all four picks to get into the 20's and early second round.

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Why are we saying we cant get a quality starter at 13 for Rt or Slb? I mean if we learned anything from the draft over the years, is you can find plenty of quaity starting caliber players in later rounds of the draft, providing that we have the right draft analyz, e.t.c, e.t.c

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[quote=53Fan;532217]It's a little to soon for me to start getting worried. We have'nt addressed all our needs but free agency isn't over and the draft has'nt started yet. We signed Hall when alot of us thought it was too late. Who would have figured we'd get Dockery? That means we just got younger with a starter at LG. Our d-line sucks! Sound familiar? I'm pretty sure AH improves our d-line. We've improved our team and have'nt even drafted yet. It is VERY possible to get a starting RT AND talented young OLB in the draft. Assuming we're done in free agency. The draft has'nt started yet and we've already improved our team. Maybe not the way we all would have liked, but I don't think there is any doubt we've improved. With only 4 picks in the draft we've already improved more than I expected, that's why I'm excited. To think we could address every need with our cap situation and only 4 picks would have been unreasonable but...... somehow we may still do it. Whether we trade down or not, we're still going to get some help in the draft.[/quote]

I'm not trying to be annoying but AH did improve our line but we also lost Evans. Taylor and Carter aren't known for their run stopping. IMO we need another quality DE to be competitively imposing on the line.

Also Dockery is filling Kendall's spot so we haven't added anything there and offense was our weakness last year.

We're only going to yield one possible starter with our draft picks. Even if our 3rd rounder starts somewhere this year will that necessarily be a good thing? Reinhardt couldn't even touch the field last year when we had extreme need for a warm body on the line.

Our team has changed but I don't think it's improved yet. We'll probably have to wait for next offseason to see that.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532230]I'm not trying to be annoying but AH did improve our line but we also lost Evans. Taylor and Carter aren't known for their run stopping. IMO we need another quality DE to be competitively imposing on the line.[/quote]

Our draft should like this:

Trade down and select Mack

next pick DE or LB
T
DE or LB again
RB

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[quote=Mattyk72;532223]How so exactly?

Do you really think the Skins are betting all their chips on no cap and have no backup plan in place?[/quote]

Do you really put it past them to execute an overly aggressive move with no Plan B?

If worse comes to worse they will dismantle our core (Portis, Moss) and we'll still have guys we can build on like AH and Landry.

I do think that if Dan Snyder is the wheeling dealing, dinner eating business man that can secure the NFL's largest guaranteed contract ever for the top 2009 free agent in 5 hours, then he certainly has owner insight into the NFL's cap implications beyond this year.

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There were no marquee/young LB's or OT;s available that would have justified the money it would have cost to sign them (and I don't wanna hear about Boley, he's underwhelming). The FO just gave us arguably the most dominate DL force in the NFL today which should improve everyone's play on the Defense by destroying opposing offenses lines and occupying blockers allonging our LB's to make plays. JT will alternate between DE and LB meaning or LB rotation should be; Fletcher (MLB) with Blades at MLB/SLB, McIntosh at WLB/SLB, JT at WLB, Fincher and Campbell rotating. With the acquistion of a LB through the draft (Maualuaga for instance) we will look golden.

As far as the O line, we just got 8 years younger at LG. We have Rhinehart, for depth, with a year under his belt (we'll see what he brings) and returning veterans at all the other positions. Heyer and Jansen will compete for the RT position and the FO will look to see if there is a worthwhile sucessor to Samuels to pick up in the draft. The only sure bet LT prospects will be long gone (J. Smith and E. Monroe) by the 13th pick. I have serious reservations, as do the majority of analysts I've heard, about Oher and A. Smith so the FO may be unwilling to invest alot of money in them when there will be sure fire prospects at other positions. Trading back is always an option but requires a willing partner, so let's not bet on that. If we stay at 13 we can take the teams highest rated LB out of USC and draft OL in the 3rd round.

We weren't going to fix all of our problems in one offseason. That being said, we definately secured a core from which to continue building on defense. Our offensive acquisitions from last offseason only need to make good on their promise, JC needs to keep growing, and I see alot of good things for our beloved team next year.

PS- I love Maualuaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;532239][B]I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available.[/B] in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our [B]5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.[/B][/quote]

BHA, I'm with you about staying put at 13 for OT. And i'm glad some of us are not blind to the need of a RB (in the draft)

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532230][B]I'm not trying to be annoying but AH did improve our line but we also lost Evans.[/B] Taylor and Carter aren't known for their run stopping. IMO we need another quality DE to be competitively imposing on the line.

[B]Also Dockery is filling Kendall's spot so we haven't added anything there [/B]and offense was our weakness last year.

We're only going to yield one possible starter with our draft picks. [B] Even if our 3rd rounder starts somewhere this year will that necessarily be a good thing?[/B] Reinhardt couldn't even touch the field last year when we had extreme need for a warm body on the line.

Our team has changed but I don't think it's improved yet. We'll probably have to wait for next offseason to see that.[/quote]

Even if we lost Evans, which I'm not sure we have yet, I would say AH is an improvement over Evans. I would say gaining about 8 years youth at LG is an improvement. If our 3rd rounder is good enough to start, how would that not be an improvement? I disagree Tee. I think we've improved.

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[quote=53Fan;532253]Even if we lost Evans, which I'm not sure we have yet, I would say AH is an improvement over Evans. I would say gaining about 8 years youth at LG is an improvement. If our 3rd rounder is good enough to start, how would that not be an improvement? I disagree Tee. I think we've improved.[/quote]

What I'm basically saying is that we went for quality in this year's free agency and we definitely got it.

Our 2008 team needed quantity because the lack of depth really killed us down the stretch on both sides of the ball...Geisinger was blocking Terrell Suggs at one point for God's sakes :)

IMO we still haven't addressed the quantity that was needed from last year's team.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532261]What I'm basically saying is that we went for quality in this year's free agency and we definitely got it.

Our 2008 team needed quantity because the lack of depth really killed us down the stretch on both sides of the ball...Geisinger was blocking Terrell Suggs at one point for God's sakes :)

IMO we still haven't addressed the quantity that was needed from last year's team.[/quote]

I agree that we still have some holes to fill. I didn't mean to imply we didn't. :) I'm hoping we get some help in the draft. T.O.Killa brought Kevin Burnett back up in the 2009 FA's thread. If we have the money we should check this guy out. He could possibly fill the OLB need at a reasonable price.

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The Dockery signing is arguably bigger than the AH signing. Kendall was barely holding on at LG and to pick up Dock...I just cant explain how important I think that is. I was initially down on the AH pick up because we had more pressing needs along the O-line but with Dock in the mix Im ecstatic with the FO's moves so far.

So no...i dont think their is room for disappointment this year in FA.

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I am very happy (in fact I probably qualify as a head over heals guy). I think adding a HIGH quality DT, we increased our depth because our starters Golston and Montgomery now add to the rotation. On the offensive line, I would have been disappointed but the Lions/Bills incompetence and our FO's willingness to get Dock gives meaning to our draft, because now we know our left side is a lot more solid, we can focus on a center/rg/ot. and again, our starters last year become our depth, not bad. Not really thrilled with Hall but Rodgers/Hall/Landry ought to be a heck of a starting defensive backfield.

If we upgrade our special teams (ie punter) and the kid from Canada who I don't remember can take over punt returns. I would think there would be no solid reason to be disappointed in the offseason.

Of Course there is always the regular season available for disappointments to shine through. For now I continue to give our FO a solid :cheers:

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;532239][B]I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum[/B] and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.[/quote]

Ok...Now you're just F****ing with me. :screama:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;532267]I am very happy (in fact I probably qualify as a head over heals guy). I think adding a HIGH quality DT, we increased our depth because our starters Golston and Montgomery now add to the rotation. On the offensive line, I would have been disappointed but the Lions/Bills incompetence and our FO's willingness to get Dock gives meaning to our draft, because now we know our left side is a lot more solid, we can focus on a center/rg/ot. and again, our starters last year become our depth, not bad. Not really thrilled with Hall but Rodgers/Hall/Landry ought to be a heck of a starting defensive backfield.

If we upgrade our special teams (ie punter) and the kid from Canada who I don't remember can take over punt returns. I would think there would be no solid reason to be disappointed in the offseason.

Of Course there is always the regular season available for disappointments to shine through. For now I continue to give our FO a solid :cheers:[/quote]

I probably demand too much of my Redskins. I have high expectations for them so I'd like to see all the bases covered before going into a competitive NFL season.

By not taking care of the one major deficiency of our entire team, our lack of depth, they are continuing to gamble with our team's success. My expectation going into a season is that we should have a chance for success no matter the impediment, our opponent, the weather, or the team's overall health.


The success you think we'll have is contingent upon the health of a one or two players. Injuries are far too common in the NFL to rest your team's success on the health of one or two players.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532272]I probably demand too much of my Redskins. I have high expectations for them so I'd like to see all the bases covered before going into a competitive NFL season.

By not taking care of the one major deficiency of our entire team, [B]our lack of depth[/B], they are continuing to gamble with our team's success. My expectation going into a season is that we should have a chance for success no matter the impediment, our opponent, the weather, or the team's overall health.


The success you think we'll have is contingent upon the health of a one or two players. Injuries are far too common in the NFL to rest your team's success on the health of one or two players.[/quote]
My argument is that we took care of depth by adding quality at the top. What one or two players? In a different thread it was pointed out that our DLine starters rotated regularly.
Our depth weakness on the Oline was not fully addressed and we did get Extremely lucky with Dock, but we added/solidified the left for next several years. And in the draft, and our younger veterans, we have to see them step up.
Finally, back to your comment that our success is dependent on one or two players, I disagree, but even so, nearly every team has one or two players that make or break them and the teams whose lines have been extremely healthy(giants oline) haven't tested their backups.

Come the regular season, I will be screaming at the screen and praying our backups when called upon meet the need. But right now, I am enjoying the Skins offseason, and thankful that the our front office makes every attempt to field a SB worthy team, with the Highest quality players available.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;532275]My argument is that we took care of depth by adding quality at the top. What one or two players? In a different thread it was pointed out that our DLine starters rotated regularly.
Our depth weakness on the Oline was not fully addressed and we did get Extremely lucky with Dock, but we added/solidified the left for next several years. And in the draft, and our younger veterans, we have to see them step up.
[B]Finally, back to your comment that our success is dependent on one or two players, I disagree, but even so, nearly every team has one or two players that make or break them and the teams whose lines have been extremely healthy(giants oline) haven't tested their backups.
[/B]
Come the regular season, I will be screaming at the screen and praying our backups when called upon meet the need. But right now, I am enjoying the Skins offseason, and thankful that the our front office makes every attempt to field a SB worthy team, with the Highest quality players available.[/quote]

The Giants, arguably, had their best defensive player, Osi Umenyiora go down in preseason '08. They still went 12-4 and won the NFL's toughest division with a great defense. They anticipated injuries and had ample depth to recover from losing him.

If we lose our best defensive player, hopefully Haynesworth if you just paid him $46M guaranteed, then our defensive line would look pedestrian. Our solution would be to call Jason Taylor's fatter brother and see if we could trade a 2nd or 3rd for him.


The fact is that competitively built NFL teams do not build depth as shallow as ours. Haynesworth's exceptional ability at DT does not provide additional depth beyond his roster spot.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532279]The Giants, arguably, had their best defensive player, Osi Umenyiora go down in preseason '08. They still went 12-4 and won the NFL's toughest division with great defense. They anticipated injuries and had ample depth to recover from losing him.

[B]If we lose our best defensive player, hopefully Haynesworth[/B] if you just paid him $46M guaranteed, then our defensive line would look pedestrian. Our solution would be to call Jason Taylor's fatter brother and see if we could trade a 2nd or 3rd for him.


The fact is that competitively built NFL teams do not build depth as shallow as ours. Haynesworth's exceptional ability at DT does not provide additional depth beyond his roster spot.[/quote]

We had the 4th rank defense without Haynesworth.

We both want the Skins to succeed! If you want to be disappointed that's fine and I understand the point you are making.

I simply choose to enjoy the offseason moves, and be excited for the quality players brought in.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;532280]We had the 4th rank defense without Haynesworth.

We both want the Skins to succeed! If you want to be disappointed that's fine and I understand the point you are making.

I simply choose to enjoy the offseason moves, and be excited for the quality players brought in.[/quote]

Well if they say they have Kool-Aid available at the offseason parade, just don't drink it. :)

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532282]Well if they say they have Kool-Aid available at the offseason parade, just don't drink it. :)[/quote]

I drank a gallon of the blue stuff on Friday, was that a BAD idea???
:food-smil

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i think everyone should take a deep breath .. we got AH because we can afford it .. 90,000 seats - sold out - we have the money .. think back a month ago .. money aside, would you have not been happy with getting AH, Dockery , Hall .. have teh ability to make a strong draft happen with a OT or LB .. i mean we were close last year .. this team will be a force on the D .. depth ?? we have depth .. do teams have 8 DE's that are pro bowlers ?? i must have missed that .. more turnovers created by AH .. Hall WILL HAVE AT LEAST 8 picks ... Offense will have a short field .. JC will have a second year to build on the WCO .. RELAX !!!!!!!!! BE HAPPY WE HAVE MONEY !!!

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[quote=DCtoAZ;532284]i think everyone should take a deep breath .. we got AH because we can afford it .. 90,000 seats - sold out - we have the money .. think back a month ago .. money aside, would you have not been happy with getting AH, Dockery , Hall .. have teh ability to make a strong draft happen with a OT or LB .. i mean we were close last year .. this team will be a force on the D .. depth ?? we have depth .. do teams have 8 DE's that are pro bowlers ?? i must have missed that .. more turnovers created by AH .. Hall WILL HAVE AT LEAST 8 picks ... Offense will have a short field .. JC will have a second year to build on the WCO .. RELAX !!!!!!!!! BE HAPPY WE HAVE MONEY !!![/quote]
:laughing- [B]HAD [/B]money. Great post.

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[quote=DCtoAZ;532284]i think everyone should take a deep breath .. we got AH because we can afford it .. 90,000 seats - sold out - we have the money .. think back a month ago .. money aside, would you have not been happy with getting AH, Dockery , Hall .. have teh ability to make a strong draft happen with a OT or LB .. i mean we were close last year .. this team will be a force on the D .. depth ?? we have depth .. do teams have 8 DE's that are pro bowlers ?? i must have missed that .. more turnovers created by AH .. Hall WILL HAVE AT LEAST 8 picks ... Offense will have a short field .. JC will have a second year to build on the WCO .. RELAX !!!!!!!!! BE HAPPY WE HAVE MONEY !!![/quote]

You're drawing conclusions based on what AH did with Tennessee's personnel. How is that going to relate to the new players he's with on our team. Me, myself, I don't know how he's going to perform with our players but everyone else seems to have a special predicting crystal ball that I don't.

And since you're already making predictions can you also predict what this Tuesday's Mega Millions numbers are going to be?...I want to see if it's really true that boatloads of money will really impair someone's football judgement.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;532295]You're drawing conclusions based on what AH did with Tennessee's personnel. [B]How is that going to relate to the new players he's with on our team.[/B] Me, myself, I don't know how he's going to perform with our players but everyone else seems to have a special predicting crystal ball that I don't.

And since you're already making predictions can you also predict what this Tuesday's Mega Millions numbers are going to be?...I want to see if it's really true that boatloads of money will really impair someone's football judgement.[/quote]

22-34-6-47-12-8;) Maybe he'll be better with the Skins. Nobody really knows. But we are going to find out. I hope he works out.

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As far as big AL ,,, if he dominates the line of scrimmage like D. Gardener did for us a few years ago ,,, we will be better . I would like to see us find a DE that could start or atleast get some consistant pressure on the qb < Maybe J. Taylor has one more big year ? > . If we are lucky to find a DE and LB this draft ,,, we should be very stout .

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[B]Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat View Post
I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.

Ok...Now you're just F****ing with me. [/B]

Hey 53. I actually had Marcus in mind when I started this thread. I tend to think the FO will want to really solidify the o-line this year w/ Samuels aging and suffering the injury last year and Jansen/Heyer as our only two other real NFL tackles. (I'm guessing we take any one of the top 4 OTs left @ 13) So LB will probably not be addressed until the 3rd round and we need someone who can step right into the system. Bringing Marcus back makes sense to me but who knows if either side would go for it.

... one thing i don't understand is why we continued to play Marcus @ SLB where he got stuck in coverage way more that Rocky it seemed and coverage is now his real downside w/ the hip/hamstrings. I think we'd see better success if the two had swapped and maybe Marcus would have been less prone to injury. Who knows...
but i would like to see him back.

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[quote=The Goat;532301][B]Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat View Post
I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.

Ok...Now you're just F****ing with me. [/B]

Hey 53. I actually had Marcus in mind when I started this thread. I tend to think the FO will want to really solidify the o-line this year w/ Samuels aging and suffering the injury last year and Jansen/Heyer as our only two other real NFL tackles. (I'm guessing we take any one of the top 4 OTs left @ 13) So LB will probably not be addressed until the 3rd round and we need someone who can step right into the system. Bringing Marcus back makes sense to me but who knows if either side would go for it.

... one thing i don't understand is why we continued to play Marcus @ SLB where he got stuck in coverage way more that Rocky it seemed and coverage is now his real downside w/ the hip/hamstrings. I think we'd see better success if the two had swapped and maybe Marcus would have been less prone to injury. Who knows...
but i would like to see him back.[/quote]

I agree and think it would make sense. I don't know if he would come back or not. I have a feeling the Saints will be giving him a call.

Re: Room for disappointment in FA?
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;532203][B]I like this thread because it provides the counter point to the people who are head over heels with the Haynesworth signing.[/B] Although our free agent pickups were huge they were not many and we're still in the same thin depth position that we were last season.

If we suffer even minor injuries we go down hard like we did last season after going 6-2. People get so caught up in the celebration frenzy that they don't see the macro problems we'll face down the road because the fact is our depth is still terrible.

Haynesworth's contract could have yielded at least 3 or 4 above average players at needed positions. Depth was a major liability for us last year. Signing multiple players at our needed positions in addition to the draft would have improved that liability going into the approaching season.[/quote]

I don't think there's a fan who is completely head over heels about the Haynesworth signing. The price paid for him is really high and the team took a huge risk. But that's water over the bridge right now, and the team needs to work with what they have. I think the FO has not completely addressed the offensive line and I do hope that's their focus in the draft.

Re: Room for disappointment in FA?
 

I hate to harp on this but the Giants just got 3 excellent players for what we paid for one and could have filled 3 holes (sounds dirty :) with them)