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Dantheskinsfan 03-02-2009 04:11 PM

Jason Taylor Released
 
Jason Taylor released.....just saw on nfl live. sorry, no link yet.....don't call for my head

Nflnick11 03-02-2009 04:11 PM

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yep thats what i heard, now we save 8.5 million!!!

Dantheskinsfan 03-02-2009 04:13 PM

Re: Jason Taylor Released
 
said he didn't want to conform to the offseason workout requests

Dantheskinsfan 03-02-2009 04:13 PM

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was an awful lot of money, and if Daniels is healthy screw him

skinsfan69 03-02-2009 04:14 PM

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Thank god the FO finally realized they made a huge mistake and are now moving on.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-02-2009 04:14 PM

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I'm all for keeping Daniels, but I wonder if this is so they can sign a RT and go LB in the draft?

mmil12 03-02-2009 04:15 PM

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As unproductive as he was for us, I don't think this is a good move. Jason Taylor was hurt all year and playing on the wrong side of the line. I think if we gave him another shot and put him on the proper side we would have seen more production. I understand that 8.5 million is a lot to pay a guy who only had 3.5 sacks. However, we are now SUPER thin at DE. Do we sign someone, resign Taylor at a lower price, or draft a new DE?

BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2009 04:16 PM

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I cant see why we would cut him now unless we are in the process of signing someone else. there are no FAs out there worth spending a significant amount of money on, so this could mean we're making a trade.

SFREDSKIN 03-02-2009 04:17 PM

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Maybe they'll sign Crowell, Willis or Smith? Here's a guy that sounds good but would cost a 2nd round pick:

[B]Harvey Dahl:[/B] Falcons have placed a second-round tender on this restricted free agent [B]guard/tackle[/B], but he could be worth it. He is a big, nasty player who was very responsible for Michael Turner's big season.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/harveydahl/profile?id=DAH255392]Harvey Dahl[/url]

Dantheskinsfan 03-02-2009 04:17 PM

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I would have liked to have seen what he can do healthy, esp with AH now clogging up the middle.......but not for 8.5. He is getting older, and those nagging injuries only nag harder when you get old.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2009 04:18 PM

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I have a bad feeling we may try to sign Housh now or that we may have traded for Boldin, or that we've signed Warner and given him his 12M/year.

Im tremendously happy with the skins moves this past weekend... i should have known it was too good to be true. they must be in the middle of doing something to muck everything up.

mmil12 03-02-2009 04:19 PM

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Who fills his void? As of now, the only quality DE we have under contract is Andre Carter...

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2009 04:19 PM

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Gas up Redskins one! I need a press conference!!!

Redskins_P 03-02-2009 04:19 PM

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I could be wrong, but this could mean that we sign another FA O-lineman (I don't even know who's left out there), and will probably go DE or LB in the draft.

Regardless, I think we're making another move very soon. At least Danny and Vinny keep it interesting.

SmootSmack 03-02-2009 04:20 PM

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I was just about to post this. I don't think it's as simple as he was refusing to work out. They'd been trying all weekend to come to an agreement on a new extended deal heavy on bonuses that would be voidable after this upcoming season.

SFREDSKIN 03-02-2009 04:21 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;532808]I could be wrong, but this could mean that we sign another FA O-lineman (I don't even know who's left out there), and will probably go DE or LB in the draft.

Regardless, I think we're making another move very soon. At least Danny and Vinny keep it interesting.[/quote]

I say get this guy even if it costs a 2nd rounder (next years)

Harvey Dahl: Falcons have placed a second-round tender on this restricted free agent guard/tackle, but he could be worth it. He is a big, nasty player who was very responsible for Michael Turner's big season.

Harvey Dahl

Redskins_P 03-02-2009 04:21 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;532805]I have a bad feeling we may try to sign Housh now or that we may have traded for Boldin.[/quote]


I agree that signing Housh would be a bad move. But I can't really hate on the FO if they make a trade for Boldin. Dude is legit.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2009 04:22 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;532801]Maybe they'll sign Crowell, Willis or Smith? Here's a guy that sounds good but would cost a 2nd round pick:

[B]Harvey Dahl:[/B] Falcons have placed a second-round tender on this restricted free agent [B]guard/tackle[/B], but he could be worth it. He is a big, nasty player who was very responsible for Michael Turner's big season.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/harveydahl/profile?id=DAH255392"]Harvey Dahl[/URL][/quote]

Too bad we gave the #2 for the guy we just cut...

mmil12 03-02-2009 04:22 PM

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We desperately need a DE, LB, and a yound O-Lineman. I don't think we are filling all of those voids this offseason. We still need more quality depth on the O-line. As of now, Kendall isn't signed and I don't think they do that with Dockery back on board. We also need a good damn kicker! This will all mean nothing if the offense is still sputtering.

Redskin Warrior 03-02-2009 04:23 PM

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So how much money did we actually save in the cap?

Redskins_P 03-02-2009 04:24 PM

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The key in this is to find out how much cap space we have now and how many moves we will be able to make.

This cut could mean 1,2 or 3 more FA signings......who knows?

BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2009 04:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;532809]I was just about to post this. I don't think it's as simple as he was refusing to work out. They'd been trying all weekend to come to an agreement on a new extended deal heavy on bonuses that would be voidable after this upcoming season.[/quote]

i agree. I cant see JT walking away from 8M dollars and he had to have been happy with the Haynesworth signing... his agent must have a better offer from another team. perhaps new england? he'd be much cheaper than Peppers.

Schneed10 03-02-2009 04:24 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;532815]So how much money did we actually save in the cap?[/quote]

$8.5 million.

We now have $12.3 million at our disposal.

skinsfan69 03-02-2009 04:25 PM

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[quote=mmil12;532797]As unproductive as he was for us, I don't think this is a good move. Jason Taylor was hurt all year and playing on the wrong side of the line. I think if we gave him another shot and put him on the proper side we would have seen more production. I understand that 8.5 million is a lot to pay a guy who only had 3.5 sacks. However, we are now SUPER thin at DE. Do we sign someone, resign Taylor at a lower price, or draft a new DE?[/quote]

Maybe we can develop Jackson?? He showed some pass rush ability last year in pre season so maybe he'll take a step up. I'm not saying he should be the starter but maybe bring back Evans, I guess they're bringing back Daniels and keep Jackson in the mix. That's 3 guys that can play that position. No need to bring back Taylor at 8.5 mil.

Redskins_P 03-02-2009 04:25 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;532818]$8.5 million.

We now have $12.3 million at our disposal.[/quote]


With that cap space we could make at least a couple more moves, correct Schneed?

SFREDSKIN 03-02-2009 04:25 PM

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Resigning Evans should be a top priority.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2009 04:27 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;532816]The key in this is to find out how much cap space we have now and how many moves we will be able to make.

This cut could mean 1,2 or 3 more FA signings......who knows?[/quote]

that could be a good thing, but at this point, there arent ANY really good DE or OT prospects on the open market. There a few value LB guys out there, but no one good enough that it would require cutting Taylor. We've just created another hole to fill with one of our 4 draft picks.

mmil12 03-02-2009 04:27 PM

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i agree 8.5 is too high to bring back Taylor. I just hope the Front Office makes 2-3 quality moves the remaining money we have under the cap.

I suggest:
1 - One Linebacker through FA
2 - One DE through the Draft
3 - One O-Lineman through FA
4 - A DAMN KICKER!

Thoughts?

Skinny Tee 03-02-2009 04:28 PM

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I like this move provided we GUN HARD for the top OL free agents available.

Jason Brown has already signed so we need to scoop up the residual OL talent available. We also need two DE's now that Taylor is gone. I would have said one if we didn't get rid of him.

Redskins_P 03-02-2009 04:30 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;532822]that could be a good thing, but at this point, there arent ANY really good DE or OT prospects on the open market. There a few value LB guys out there, but no one good enough that it would require cutting Taylor. We've just created another hole to fill with one of our 4 draft picks.[/quote]


Did the tackle from Seattle get signed already?

an23dy 03-02-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Jason Taylor Released
 
Him and A Carter play the same position and A Carter didn't want to move. I think D Evans was a better left defensive end anyways and P Daniels would be better also. You can add these guys and more with the 8.5 million in cap room. Maybe a punter, linebacker, O-lineman, and we won't have to trade back in the draft. I like it a lot.

Schneed10 03-02-2009 04:30 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;532820]With that cap space we could make at least a couple more moves, correct Schneed?[/quote]

Absolutely. That's enough room to bring in an impact lineman, an impact LB, a decent punter, bring back Evans, bring back Daniels, and sign the rookies.

Just as one example.

Put it this way: Haynesworth and Hall combined to take up $13.1 million. We have $12.3 available right now - you can fit two huge contracts in that amount of space, or 5 medium ones, or lots and lots of little ones.

It's tons of space.

Redskin Warrior 03-02-2009 04:31 PM

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Release_Taylor_32597.jsp]Redskins Release Taylor[/url]

Here is the link

cobracai1 03-02-2009 04:31 PM

Re: Jason Taylor Released
 
Julius Peppers anyone?? Just kidding but I think signing Daniels to a 2 year minimum and drafting Orakpo (if available) would be great. Ray Willis is still available and I think Angelo Crowell is out there too. Then we use the third on a LB and the rest on depth(BPA).

RedskinPete 03-02-2009 04:31 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;532822]that could be a good thing, but at this point, there arent ANY really good DE or OT prospects on the open market. There a few value LB guys out there, but no one good enough that it would require cutting Taylor. We've just created another hole to fill with one of our 4 draft picks.[/quote] With NO 2nd round pick!!!! I got to tell you if there are no other pick ups in Free agentcy there are just to many hole to fill in the draft. Also it real kill any gains by any free agents we picked up last week. We will see what happens in the next few weks!

Redskin Warrior 03-02-2009 04:32 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;532826]Did the tackle from Seattle get signed already?[/quote]

Rocky Benard yeah he signed with the Giants

BDBohnzie 03-02-2009 04:33 PM

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[quote=Redskins Warrior][url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Release_Taylor_32597.jsp]Redskins Release Taylor[/url]
[quote]The Redskins did want to add a clause in Taylor’s contract requiring him to participate in 25 of 39 days in the team’s off-season workout program.

Taylor declined, leading to his release.[/quote][/quote]
Hopefully this does not come back to bite the Skins in the arse, but if it clears room for our needs, then so be it. It would have been nice to see the Jason Taylor of old come forth in '09...but it looks like it wasn't meant to be.

Paintrain 03-02-2009 04:33 PM

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Hmm, now it gets a little interesting. I don't think they had to do this to shed salary cap for their existing signings, I wonder if this is a precursor to a trade or another signing (perhaps a new RT or OLB)?

BigHairedAristocrat 03-02-2009 04:33 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;532826]Did the tackle from Seattle get signed already?[/quote]

No, hes still out there, but he's cheap enough we wouldnt have had to cut Taylor to sign him. He's also not a noticable upgrade over Heyer, so i doubt we bring him in.

I don't buy that we would cut Taylor just because he didnt want to work out here at redskins park... we wanted the cap space for something. Maybe we traded our first round pick and something else to Arizona for Bolden and/or Dansby?. Or maybe we're going after Ocho Stinko again? more likely i'm just paranoid. we couldnt be THAT stupid, could we?

Redskins_P 03-02-2009 04:34 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;532833]Rocky Benard yeah he signed with the Giants[/quote]

Sorry, I meant the Offensive Tackle. I totally forgot his name tho..


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