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NYCskinfan82 03-17-2009 06:41 PM

What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
I know people are going to tell me this as been brought up already but i cant find the post so i'm starting another. I would see if the Jets would give up Vernon Gholston for our 1st round and give us one of their 2nd rounds, i know their not happy with him. What do you think.

SFREDSKIN 03-17-2009 06:49 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Trade down, get an additional pick/picks and stay in the 1st round and go after Alex Mack (hopefully he's there).

Big C 03-17-2009 07:08 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
id like to trade down. this is a deep draft, we could get an elite back imo late in the first round like mccoy or moreno, maybe a shonne green in the 2nd or 3rd. id love us to take a running back if we can move down, portis always wears down and he is approaching 30. great player still but this is the perfect draft to take a running back. anyways, trade down get maualuga, johnson, or if no one on the lines or quality lb is there get a rb

Warren85Ellard 03-17-2009 07:16 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;537704]I know people are going to tell me this as been brought up already but i cant find the post so i'm starting another. I would see if the Jets would give up Vernon Gholston for our 1st round and give us one of their 2nd rounds, i know their not happy with him. What do you think.[/quote]

I think that's crazy. Vernon Gholston was a bust, so why would we give New York a first rounder for him? Just so that we can have their second round pick? Are you a Jets fan?

GMScud 03-17-2009 07:24 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Huh? Gholston was an epic bust. He was supposed to be an immediate impact player, and he couldn't even get on the field. Hell, he was so bad he was actually deactivated for a few games by Mangini. He even earned the nickname "Ghost" becuase he was so invisible.

I would definitely not be opposed to trading our pick, but only for multiple first day picks and definitely not for Vernon friggin Gholston.

NYCskinfan82 03-17-2009 07:24 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Vernon Gholston is a 4 -3 defense guy not a 3- 4 he just wants to go after the QB. Put him at the left end he's young. I'm just putting it out there.

Big C 03-17-2009 07:26 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
granted hes only played 1 season, for some reason i saw gholston as probable bust when he was drafted. im not surprised, theres something about ohio state players that makes me skeptical i dont know why

WaldSkins 03-17-2009 07:27 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=Warren85Ellard;537716]I think that's crazy. Vernon Gholston was a bust, so why would we give New York a first rounder for him? Just so that we can have their second round pick? Are you a Jets fan?[/quote]

I thought we were going to trade our 1st to the Bengals so we could get Benson to back up Portis?

Nflnick11 03-17-2009 07:37 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
I'd trade down, and get at late first and mid to late second rounder...I'd get larry English with the first and phil loadholt with the second rounder...hopefully this trade could come with Miami and getting their first and what was our second rounder now theirs...

53Fan 03-17-2009 07:50 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
If I had a choice between using it or trade it, I'd trade it for a lower first and an extra pick. Same reason as SFREDSKIN. Gholston was someone I was wary of and he hasn't given me any reason to change my mind.

vallin21 03-17-2009 07:54 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Trade down to the mid 20's and select T. Jacson DE from LSU. Depending on who we trade with we could pick up a 2nd. In that case I draft a RT or a C like either Unger or Mack because I think one of them is falling into the 2nd. In the 3rd I'd take Spencer Adkins from Miami (FL). His pro day I think he ran a 4.4 and benched 225 25 times.

redskingrove 03-18-2009 08:21 AM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Keep our first rounder and go after an OT. Trade our other 3 picks this year for a high second round pick (since we are cap restrained). There are a couple of teams with multiple picks in the 2nd round. Use the second round pick to go after a C for depth behind Rabach, and then let's go to work...!

jredskins1972 03-18-2009 02:29 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Take one of the top five ot. Gholston could not start for his own team why would we want him and his contract.

dmek25 03-18-2009 02:45 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
i really dont give a crap what they do. as long as who ever they pick, they can come in and play. no more projects

Eknox 03-18-2009 03:22 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Trade down for a low first and a second and take a young DE and RT

Trample the Elderly 03-18-2009 04:53 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
I was thinking that we should trade down earlier on but I've since changed my mind. I say use the 13th on you know who.

Bubba305-ST21- 03-18-2009 04:59 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
who is you know who

NYCskinfan82 03-18-2009 05:01 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Yes who's you know who

BleedBurgundy 03-18-2009 05:08 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Did emmitt smith write this thread title?

NYCskinfan82 03-18-2009 05:11 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Yes he diddd

SmootSmack 03-18-2009 05:12 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;538101]Did emmitt smith write this thread title?[/quote]

LOL. I've been too lazy to edit it, was hoping no one would notice

Ruhskins 03-18-2009 05:15 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;538101]Did emmitt smith write this thread title?[/quote]

He debacled it. Zing!

ChickenMonkey 03-18-2009 05:43 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=Nflnick11;537726]I'd trade down, and get at late first and mid to late second rounder...I'd get larry English with the first and phil loadholt with the second rounder...hopefully this trade could come with Miami and getting their first and what was our second rounder now theirs...[/quote]

Id be all for the trade down in the first and Larry English, hes a stud..

Id go OT Jamon Meredith in the 2nd though.....and ditto the Miami trade

KI Skins Fan 03-18-2009 06:51 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
I don't get the trade down mentality. We can probably get a near certain starter at #13. I think the FO would have trouble passing on one of these guys: Oher, A. Smith, Ty Jackson, E. Brown, Maualuga, M. Johnson, Mack, or Cushing.

That's 8 players. Another 6 players who are virtually certain to be gone by the time we pick are: Curry, J. Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Crabtree, and Raji. That makes a total of 14 players, so at least 2 of the players I listed as possible Redskins picks are nearly sure to be there when we pick.

If the teams that pick above us make some mistakes, it's not out of the realm of possibility that one of the top 6 might be there, as well.

So I think we'll probably use the 13th pick.

WaldSkins 03-18-2009 07:03 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;538130][B]I don't get the trade down mentality.[/B] We can probably get a near certain starter at #13. I think the FO would have trouble passing on one of these guys: Oher, A. Smith, Ty Jackson, E. Brown, Maualuga, M. Johnson, Mack, or Cushing.

That's 8 players. Another 6 players who are virtually certain to be gone by the time we pick are: Curry, J. Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Crabtree, and Raji. That makes a total of 14 players, so at least 2 of the players I listed as possible Redskins picks are nearly sure to be there when we pick.

If the teams that pick above us make some mistakes, it's not out of the realm of possibility that one of the top 6 might be there, as well.

So I think we'll probably use the 13th pick.[/quote]

So we can try to get more draft choices since we trade ours for aging players.

vallin21 03-18-2009 07:06 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;538130]I don't get the trade down mentality. We can probably get a near certain starter at #13. I think the FO would have trouble passing on one of these guys: Oher, A. Smith, Ty Jackson, E. Brown, Maualuga, M. Johnson, Mack, or Cushing.

That's 8 players. Another 6 players who are virtually certain to be gone by the time we pick are: Curry, J. Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Crabtree, and Raji. That makes a total of 14 players, so at least 2 of the players I listed as possible Redskins picks are nearly sure to be there when we pick.

If the teams that pick above us make some mistakes, it's not out of the realm of possibility that one of the top 6 might be there, as well.

So I think we'll probably use the 13th pick.[/quote]

I agree. If I had to choose 1 of those 6 falling out of the top 12 Orakpo is the most likely to fall out, but if he's taken we should trade out and draft 1 of the 8 players (you mentioned earlier), later in the 1st and depending on who we trade with we could gain a 2nd.

WaldSkins 03-18-2009 07:16 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=vallin21;538136]I agree. If I had to choose 1 of those 6 falling out of the top 12 Orakpo is the most likely to fall out, but if he's taken we should trade out and draft 1 of the 8 players (you mentioned earlier), later in the 1st and depending on who we trade with we could gain a 2nd.[/quote]

Did you even read the post that your quoting?

vallin21 03-18-2009 07:21 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=WaldSkins;538138]Did you even read the post that your quoting?[/quote]

Yeah Man I did. Thanks for looking out.

:goodjob:

WaldSkins 03-18-2009 07:26 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=vallin21;538140]Yeah Man I did. Thanks for looking out.

:goodjob:[/quote]
Thats what im here for

KI Skins Fan 03-18-2009 07:52 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=WaldSkins;538134]So we can try to get more draft choices since we trade ours for aging players.[/quote]

Oh, I understand that part perfectly. It is a mindset created by the inconsistent approach taken by the FO.

Still, that's no reason to pass up the opportunity to draft a potential starter in the 1st round.

WaldSkins 03-18-2009 08:44 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;538158]Oh, I understand that part perfectly. It is a mindset created by the inconsistent approach taken by the FO.

Still, that's no reason to pass up the opportunity to draft a potential starter in the 1st round.[/quote]

As long as it's not Cushing ill be fine with whomever

Trample the Elderly 03-18-2009 10:25 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Emmitt? Low blow guys, low blow. No I was referring to Alex Mack. I don't think he's going to fall to the second round. Someone is going to snag him up. This guy is going to be sought after by a lot of teams.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/18/mack-in-focus-at-californias-pro-day/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Mack in focus at California’s pro day «[/url]

53Fan 03-18-2009 10:42 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;538190][B]Emmitt? Low blow guys, low blow.[/B] No I was referring to Alex Mack. I don't think he's going to fall to the second round. Someone is going to snag him up. This guy is going to be sought after by a lot of teams.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/18/mack-in-focus-at-californias-pro-day/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Mack in focus at California’s pro day «[/url][/quote]

They're talking about the thread title Tramp. Check it out. :)

GTripp0012 03-18-2009 10:51 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
Once I traded it, I'd probably try to use it.

Trample the Elderly 03-18-2009 10:58 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=53Fan;538194]They're talking about the thread title Tramp. Check it out. :)[/quote]

I don't get it? It doesn't end with a question mark?

53Fan 03-18-2009 11:04 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;538196]I don't get it? It doesn't end with a question mark?[/quote]

Sleepy aren't you Tramp? Would you use it or [B]traded[/B] it?

Trample the Elderly 03-18-2009 11:18 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=53Fan;538197]Sleepy aren't you Tramp? Would you use it or [B]traded[/B] it?[/quote]

I must be. I usually don't miss things like that.

The Goat 03-19-2009 11:12 AM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
My biggest concern w/ trading out of the 13th overall is missing out on true 1st round talent. My biggest fear going into the draft is Vinny trading out of the 1st round completely... if this is the only trade scenario available we ought to stay at 13 IMO.

FRPLG 03-19-2009 11:48 AM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
I think I'd like to see us trade down to later in the first if possible. Of course it takes two to dance and we'd need to get another pick that could give us starter level talent. To me a later 1 and 3 could offer us two picks to get starters and if we evaluate talent well then there's a good chance that an OLinemen we take with one of them would be better than one of the "top" ones we are looking at now. If we could trade down to the low 20's maybe Mack is there and then we can take a more project like RT in the 3rd?

KI Skins Fan 03-19-2009 12:49 PM

Re: What would you do with the 13th pick, use it or traded it.
 
[quote=FRPLG;538296]I think I'd like to see us trade down to later in the first if possible. Of course it takes two to dance and we'd need to get another pick that could give us starter level talent. To me a later 1 and 3 could offer us two picks to get starters and if we evaluate talent well then there's a good chance that an OLinemen we take with one of them would be better than one of the "top" ones we are looking at now. If we could trade down to the low 20's maybe Mack is there and then we can take a more project like RT in the 3rd?[/quote]

It's probably too risky if the Skins expect to get a starter in a position of need in the 1st Round. We're lucky to be at #13 because there won't be many "sure things" beyond that point.

You are talking about dropping 7 or 8 slots. That's a lot when you consider that some of the intervening teams have similar needs to our own.


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