Report: Jason Smith is in Negotiations to be No. 1 pick
 

From the Matt Stafford/Mark Sanchez draft day slide begins file:

[IMG]http://www.kffl.com/images/hot_sign.jpg[/IMG][B]Lions | To take J. Smith with first pick?[/B]
Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:38:30 -0700 KFFL has learned the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl"]Detroit Lions[/URL] will take Baylor OT [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/21148/nfl"]Jason Smith[/URL] with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 [URL="http://www.kffl.com/link/159"]NFL Draft[/URL].

This might be a better fit in Draft Central, your call guys.

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Det. looks like they're trying to win some games now and follow what Miami did. They traded for Peterson and now they might draft a LT. If this is true I really don't blame them for passing on Stafford and Sanzhez. Both guys are just not worth the risk at the #1 pick. I guess they're going w/ Culpepper. I'm not quite sure why they don't have Leftwich on the phone but oh well. I guess they know what they're doing. lol.

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That's what I've been hearing too.

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[quote=skinsfan69;539124]Det. looks like they're trying to win some games now and follow what Miami did. They traded for Peterson and now they might draft a LT. If this is true I really don't blame them for passing on Stafford and Sanzhez. Both guys are just not worth the risk at the #1 pick. I guess they're going w/ Culpepper. I'm not quite sure why they don't have Leftwich on the phone but oh well. [B]I guess they know what they're doing.[/B] lol.[/quote]

Well given their track record, Lions fans sure hope they are. Although I dunno if I would put my season on Culpepper's shoulder. They can probably still pick up Stafford or Sanchez if either one of them is Brady Quinn'ed in the draft.

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Remember they still have another 1st round selection from Dallas and they might select Smith 1st overall and then trade up for a QB or they could be in the Cutler race as well.

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I dunno guys, call it a gut feeling, but I'm pretty sure the Lions are going to select Michael Crabtree with the first pick. He would be the PERFECT compliment to Calvin Johnson, unstoppable!

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Good news for the Redskins in this sense: If the Lions decide to go OT at #1 they will probably have to move up in round 1 if they want to land one of the three QBs at the top of the draft. Leaving out Jay Cutler (since I don't think he gets traded) the Lions probably couldn't even count on having Josh Freeman fall to them at #20 since Tampa Bay picks before them at #19. If Sanchez or Stafford falls (or if the two QBs go early and Detroit starts to panic about landing Freeman before the bottom falls out of the QB crop) the Lions might be in the market to move up to #13 (which is the Skins ideal scenario).

Picks #20, #65, and a 5th gets the Lions up to #13 by the chart. That would be a nice trade for Cerrato and Company. There really is not a way for the Skins to get picks #20 and #33 unless they start dealing players or future picks, and I suspect Detroit values that pick at the top of the 2nd too highly to deal it anyway.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;539131]Remember they still have another 1st round selection from Dallas and they might select Smith 1st overall and then trade up for a QB or they could be in the Cutler race as well.[/quote]

[B]If our guys are gone[/B] ( The ones we want at #13 ) and Stafford or Sanchez are still there, they may be willing to trade with us.

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There was some talk a while back that the Lions were going after Freeman with the #20 pick, don't know what the latest is on that.

On a related note, take it for what it's worth but Culpeper is reportedly looking like the Daunte from his prime in Minnesota these days

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[quote=53Fan;539143][B]If our guys are gone[/B] ( The ones we want at #13 ) and Stafford or Sanchez are still there, they may be willing to trade with us.[/quote]

What guys would you say you just have to sit there and take at #13 and it would not be worth moving down? I think it becomes a pretty short list if you have a decent offer on the table to move down and pick up extra picks. Even if Oher or Smith is sitting there I think you would drop down and hope that either or both continue to slide or you say you'd be happy to get someone like Eben Britton or Alex Mack down at #20 anyway. Unless a top prospect like Curry takes a tumble I don't see a whole lot of guys who you HAVE to take at #13. Jason Smith, Monroe, Curry, and maybe you find Crabtree too appealing if he drops, but otherwise I don't know why you wouldn't be perfectly willing to slide down the board. Maybe you can throw Everette Brown (who I really like) and Brian Orakpo into that group. It is impossible to predict perfectly what will happen on draft day, but you'd probably bet decent money that none of those guys slips through to #13 anyway.

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[quote=53Fan;539143][B]If our guys are gone[/B] ( The ones we want at #13 ) and Stafford or Sanchez are still there, they may be willing to trade with us.[/quote]

I know it's wishful thinking. But, is Stafford falls to 13 would the Lions trade us the 20th overall and their 2nd or 3rd rounder?

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[quote=Son Of Man;539147]I know it's wishful thinking. But, is Stafford falls to 13 would the Lions trade us the 20th overall and their 2nd or 3rd rounder?[/quote]

:doh:

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;539146][B]What guys would you say you just have to sit there and take at #13 and it would not be worth moving down?[/B] I think it becomes a pretty short list if you have a decent offer on the table to move down and pick up extra picks. Even if Oher or Smith is sitting there I think you would drop down and hope that either or both continue to slide or you say you'd be happy to get someone like Eben Britton or Alex Mack down at #20 anyway. Unless a top prospect like Curry takes a tumble I don't see a whole lot of guys who you HAVE to take at #13. Jason Smith, Monroe, Curry, and maybe you find Crabtree too appealing if he drops, but otherwise I don't know why you wouldn't be perfectly willing to slide down the board. Maybe you can throw Everette Brown (who I really like) and Brian Orakpo into that group. It is impossible to predict perfectly what will happen on draft day, but you'd probably bet decent money that none of those guys slips through to #13 anyway.[/quote]

I think you just named them. The point is, if they really want one of the QB's and they're still there, they may be willing to trade.

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[quote=Son Of Man;539147]I know it's wishful thinking. But, is Stafford falls to 13 would the Lions trade us the 20th overall and their 2nd or 3rd rounder?[/quote]

By the value chart it's possible. But who really knows?

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[quote=Son Of Man;539147]I know it's wishful thinking. But, is Stafford falls to 13 would the Lions trade us the 20th overall and their 2nd or 3rd rounder?[/quote]

I would think they would trade up knowing tampa bay isn't far behind always willing to take a QB. But I believe the Rams will take Stafford at #2 if the Lions pass. Bulger getting old need to establish a new culture in STL. I also believe Sanchez will go to #10 to SF leaving the picks #11-16 to actually be tradeable options for Detriot.


*Honorable mention is the Jets they might be interested in a QB as well

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[quote=LMsexyAO;539141]I dunno guys, call it a gut feeling, but I'm pretty sure the Lions are going to select Michael Crabtree with the first pick. He would be the PERFECT compliment to Calvin Johnson, unstoppable![/quote]

Matt, is that you?

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[quote=SmootSmack;539144]There was some talk a while back that the Lions were going after Freeman with the #20 pick, don't know what the latest is on that.

[B]On a related note, take it for what it's worth but Culpeper is reportedly looking like the Daunte from his prime in Minnesota these days[/B][/quote]

That actually says a lot about their thought process. His knee injury a few years back was so severe, I'm not surprised it's taken a significant amount of time to get back to form. He's only a few months older than Tom Brady. He's got plenty of miles left.

I always liked Culpepper. I hope he does well.

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This is a mixed bag ever since last year. Before the draft I laughed at the Falcons for not taking Glen Dorsey. Now look at me I'm homeless and no one listens to me anymore in Flowery Branch. In fact they now do the opposite of what I tell them.

As much as I love the line the fact remains that QB is the most important position on the field. That ranking includes the Offensive Line as a unit. I've heard things about Stafford being a lot like Ryan and if thats true you really need to go for Stafford. I mean look at us last year. Did anyone here think Ryan was that special what with a high INT total and an NFL QB rating that I believe hovered around the low 80's his senior year?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;539166]This is a mixed bag ever since last year. Before the draft I laughed at the Falcons for not taking Glen Dorsey. Now look at me I'm homeless and no one listens to me anymore in Flowery Branch. In fact they now do the opposite of what I tell them.

As much as I love the line the fact remains that QB is the most important position on the field. That ranking includes the Offensive Line as a unit. I've heard things about Stafford being a lot like Ryan and if thats true you really need to go for Stafford. I mean look at us last year. Did anyone here think Ryan was that special what with a high INT total and an NFL QB rating that I believe hovered around the low 80's his senior year?[/quote]

I saw Ryan in person against VA Tech and thought he looked like the real deal. The guy just played like an NFL QB. He willed them to win the game.

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It should be noted that the Lions are reportedly also negotiating with Stafford and Curry

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I think they're just being smart with trying to see who they can work a contract with before the draft. Didn't the Texans do the same thing with Bush and Williams a couple of years ago?

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[quote=53Fan;539192][B]I think they're just being smart[/B] with trying to see who they can work a contract with before the draft. Didn't the Texans do the same thing with Bush and Williams a couple of years ago?[/quote]

I think they are doing what any team with the #1 pick should be doing. It just looks smart b/c of the past history of mismanagement in that team.

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I think Culpepper is pretty serious. He lost about 20 lbs when he reported to camp. His teammates were calling him a "new man". He was playing at around 290 lbs despite his listed weight being much lower. I dunno, your QB doing that SHOULD have a positive effect on the locker room.
[url=http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090319/SPORTS0101/903190390/1004]Culpepper gets back to his playing weight | detnews.com | The Detroit News[/url]

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Good for him since he is arguably the third best tackle.

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[url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/24/lions-recognize-need-for-warm-bodies-willing-to-trade-down/]Lions Recognize Need for Warm Bodies, Willing to Trade Down --NFL FanHouse[/url]

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[quote=GridIron26;539566][URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/24/lions-recognize-need-for-warm-bodies-willing-to-trade-down/"]Lions Recognize Need for Warm Bodies, Willing to Trade Down --NFL FanHouse[/URL][/quote]

Sounds like my mindset when I hear "closing time".

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;539389]Good for him since he is arguably the third best tackle.[/quote]

:lol:

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[quote=The Goat;539569]:lol:[/quote]

Laugh all you want but I am extremely suspect of anyone who jumps to the top because people fall in love with them at the combine. I would take a bookend from the SEC over any other conference right now.

The combine has been proven over and over again to be fools gold.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;539571]Laugh all you want but I am extremely suspect of [B]anyone who jumps to the top because people fall in love with them at the combine. [/B] I would take a bookend from the SEC over any other conference right now.

The combine has been proven over and over again to be fools gold.[/quote]

See Davis, Vernon; TE.

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[quote=GridIron26;539566][url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/24/lions-recognize-need-for-warm-bodies-willing-to-trade-down/]Lions Recognize Need for Warm Bodies, Willing to Trade Down --NFL FanHouse[/url][/quote]

at the number 1 spot, it's not a question of that team being willing to trade down, but more so, are there any teams who want to trade up and pay a gross amount of money to someone who has yet to play a down in the NFL.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;539613]at the number 1 spot, it's not a question of that team being willing to trade down, but more so, are there any teams who want to trade up and pay a gross amount of money to someone who has yet to play a down in the NFL.[/quote]

Good question

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;539613]at the number 1 spot, it's not a question of that team being willing to trade down, but more so, are there any teams who want to trade up and pay a gross amount of money to someone who has yet to play a down in the NFL.[/quote]

A lot of teams are calling the Lions about the #20 and #33 picks, and the Lions have been trying to trade the #1 pick but people aren't interested.

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No.1 doesn't hold much attraction anymore with the money being demanded at that spot for someone who has never played a down in the NFL.
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