NFL Owners Pass Four New Player Safety Rules
 

I guess I don't have a problem with the contact to the head/neck, but I think the ban of the "wedge block" in the return game is kind of dumb.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f6c090&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true]NFL owners pass four player safety rules for 2009 season[/url]

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No wedge is stupid. What if more than 2 people come side-by-side towards the runner. Are wedges allowed then?

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Yeah i agree with no hitting the head, but i don't get the 5 man onside side kick rule.

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The comment in the link by rcod76 tells it all for me..

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i wonder if they are going to do anything with the facemask penalty, getting rid of the 5 yarder seemed to make some 15 yarders much more suspect

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The game is okay just the way it is. It's the officiating that messes everything up.

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Wedge one is silly.. you're gonna probably find more full-speed contacts on kick returns due to that.. I can't see where the wedge blocking at a slower speed would hurt more people than someone blasting through straight at a returner

what's the rule on distance between them and other blockers? can you do a double 2 man wedge but slightly split apart?

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Such tackles will be a point of emphasis with officiating crews in 2009.


So will holding penalties, on which the variance of calls from crew to crew has been huge. Pereira's office is compiling a tape that will be shown to officials, coaching staffs and players.


"It's one area we need to find consistency from crew to crew," he said.


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That's kind of good news, other than some of our line being a bit hold friendly, we def got the downside of uncalled holds in some games

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All of the rules are stupid and detract from the real game of football, but the one that really has me scratching my head is not allowing more than five players bunched together for an onside kick. How are you supposed to recover it?

I've never seen any player get hurt on an onside kick in my life.



No wedge makes no sense but it can be worked around.

Now Tom Brady is [U]officially[/U] a wuss. He has a "don't touch me" rule in his name.

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I think the rule about hitting the head of a defenseless WR is going to have the biggest impact on the game. Just like now when a defender goes to block a pass and happens to hit the QB on the head they get a 15 yard penalty. I'm not talking about the hard hits to the head but more of the light accidental ones we see all the time that draw a 15 yard penalty. Now I think the same thing will happen as the defender goes to makes a play and happens to hit the WR on the head they will draw a 15 yard penalty and I can see allot of fans saying that a BS call that apart of football.

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Just watched the Brady hit again...it still appears to me that a Patriots blocker actually pushed the KC defender into Brady.

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Most of the new rules like every year are bs. The main reason for them is to increase points per game because they think more people will watch. It is and always will be for now on about the money. They use "safety" for the player as an excuse to "better" the game. A lot of great defenders in football history would be handcuffed in todays game. I liked it when if a wr or rb got a 1,000 yards it was an accomplishment and not every team had a star at those positions.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4015265]NFL owners pass change on playoff teams draft order - ESPN[/url]

More new rule but these are playoff seeding. Also another onside kick rule.

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I say they just put flags on the quarterback and be done with it.

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[quote=skinsqc;539696]I say they just put flags on the quarterback and be done with it.[/quote]

Really. Maybe these guys are in the wrong profession. I'm not looking for anyone to get hurt, but the hit on Brady was a guy trying to make a play. It wasn't intentional. Worked out for Cassell pretty well. Players are going to get hurt sometimes. That's the chance they take for getting big money to play a game. Let's face it, one of the big attractions of playing football is to be able to legally knock the shit out of somebody. This isn't golf.

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[quote=53Fan;539703]Really. Maybe these guys are in the wrong profession. I'm not looking for anyone to get hurt, but the hit on Brady was a guy trying to make a play. It wasn't intentional. Worked out for Cassell pretty well. Players are going to get hurt sometimes. That's the chance they take for getting big money to play a game. Let's face it, one of the big attractions of playing football is to be able to legally knock the shit out of somebody. This isn't golf.[/quote]

I don't think its the players in most cases complaining about the hits more so the owners who pay high dollar for these guys. There have been a few cases like the horse collar deal that the players supported making it against the rules.

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[quote=hooskins;539695][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4015265"]NFL owners pass change on playoff teams draft order - ESPN[/URL]

More new rule but these are playoff seeding. Also another onside kick rule.[/quote]

That's a rule change that makes sense

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[quote=firstdown;539644]I think the rule about hitting the head of a defenseless WR is going to have the biggest impact on the game. Just like now when a defender goes to block a pass and happens to hit the QB on the head they get a 15 yard penalty. I'm not talking about the hard hits to the head but more of the light accidental ones we see all the time that draw a 15 yard penalty. Now I think the same thing will happen as the defender goes to makes a play and happens to hit the WR on the head they will draw a 15 yard penalty and I can see allot of fans saying that a BS call that apart of football.[/quote]

I guess it depends how they define "defenseless"

Is it someone who isn't catching the ball but hit is unavoidable? Guy in the air?

What if they're both going up for the ball and both heads knock a bit? Guess we're going to need to see it in action.

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[quote=Buster;539645]Just watched the Brady hit again...it still appears to me that a Patriots blocker actually pushed the KC defender into Brady.[/quote]
What is a lunge from the ground? Falling from your knees into the QB? What if you're blocked into it? Is that worse than running straight at the guy? How many QB's are getting blown knees and ankles from being snatched below the knee?

I just can't see that one just because it happened to Brady.

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I think these microprotecting rules are stupid. The reason they enacted the on-side rule is because "they were getting matchups there that they thought were dangerous." I mean jesus it's football! It's like they think it is possible to rule danger out of the game yet still allow them to run full speed into each other. Es stupido.

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[quote=hooskins;539695][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4015265]NFL owners pass change on playoff teams draft order - ESPN[/url]

More new rule but these are playoff seeding. Also another onside kick rule.[/quote]

Again i'm confused, wasn't an onside kick out of bounds put at like the 40 for the receiving team? Or am i relying on my knowledge of madden09 rules lol.

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[quote=Buster;539643]All of the rules are stupid and detract from the real game of football, but the one that really has me scratching my head is not allowing more than five players bunched together for an onside kick. How are you supposed to recover it?

I've never seen any player get hurt on an onside kick in my life.



No wedge makes no sense but it can be worked around.

Now Tom Brady is [U]officially[/U] a wuss. He has a "don't touch me" rule in his name.[/quote]

I'm not sure Brady has anything to do with the rule himself. It's the owners that are voting on this silly crap. I'm not even sure what the rule is. Wasn't there already a rule put it when Carson Palmer got hurt?

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[quote=Zerohero;539772]Again i'm confused, wasn't an onside kick out of bounds put at like the 40 for the receiving team? Or am i relying on my knowledge of madden09 rules lol.[/quote]

I believe it was put where it went out on an onside kick.

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Is Tom Brady on the rules committee or something??

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[quote=skinsfan69;539841]I'm not sure Brady has anything to do with the rule himself. It's the owners that are voting on this silly crap. I'm not even sure what the rule is. Wasn't there already a rule put it when Carson Palmer got hurt?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure there was, it just got de-emphasized

Also, in defense of banning the wedge...someone was going to get killed busting up wedges. I've seen Mike Sellers just throw his body into the collective knees of the blockers in a wedge, that's just dangerous for everyone involved. I actually like the outlawing of the wedge.

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[quote=Mattyk72;539849]Is Tom Brady on the rules committee or something??[/quote]

he's on the pretty committee .. faces of the game prevail

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Also it is important to note not many teams use a wedge, we are one of the few teams that do. It will be interesting to see how this rule affects our performance. Rock was one of the top kick returners in the NFL for the last couple years, how will wedgeless Rock and the rest of Danny Smith's boys fair?

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[quote=skinsfan69;539841]I'm not sure Brady has anything to do with the rule himself. It's the owners that are voting on this silly crap. I'm not even sure what the rule is. Wasn't there already a rule put it when Carson Palmer got hurt?[/quote]

This was all because of Brady and the crybaby/whinny NE fans. I just hope Darth Hoody quits bitching about how the whole league is against him and his team after this.