Broncos to trade Cutler
 

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[B]Broncos to trade Cutler[/B]

Owner Pat Bowlen issued a statement on the team's website that disgruntled QB Jay Cutler will be shipped.
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Per Yahoo NFL Front Page.

Also Here's a link:
[URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/31/bowlen-says-broncos-will-trade-cutler/"]ProFootballTalk.com - Bowlen Says Broncos Will Trade Cutler[/URL]

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I would too. Crybaby!

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Does this mean they will bring back Patrick Ramsey?
Smirk

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I still don't think we're after him...

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I hope this means that Campbell, will be learning, yet another offense this year.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;540955]I hope this means that Campbell, will be learning, yet another offense this year.[/quote]

Ouch...why the hate for Campbell anyway?

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Are you sure this isn't part of pff's annual April Fools trick?

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[quote=SkinzzFan;540957]Ouch...why the hate for Campbell anyway?[/quote]
I dont hate the kid. I think he is a great kid and does everything he can. I just think that he does not have the talent to take us to the bowl.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;540960]I dont hate the kid. I think he is a great kid and does everything he can. I just think that he does not have the talent to take us to the bowl.[/quote]

And the crybaby in Broncos will? :doh:

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[quote=Ruhskins;540962]And the crybaby in Broncos will? :doh:[/quote]
He is not a crybaby. He was an all pro quarterback that threw for 4500 yards, shattering John Elways record. Thats Hall of Fame John Elways record. If I went to work tomorrow and found out my employer tried to trade me for someone else, I would be pissed. Josh McDaniel's is a punk that screwed up the best part of his team.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;540963]He is not a crybaby. He was an all pro quarterback that threw for 4500 yards, shattering John Elways record. Thats Hall of Fame John Elways record. If I went to work tomorrow and found out my employer tried to trade me for someone else, I would be pissed. Josh McDaniel's is a punk that screwed up the best part of his team.[/quote]

I bet the Broncos do better w/ McDaniel's and w/o Cutler...

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[quote=djnemo65;540959]Are you sure this isn't part of pff's annual April Fools trick?[/quote]

Not unless Pat Bowlen and Jay Cutler have a wonderful sense of humor. I don't get that vibe. Bad move for the Broncos. Franchise QBs don't just come around that often, they should know that better than most. First get rid of a successful coach and now (in a related move) dump the franchise QB. I know Cutler has been less than mature in this situation, but the team has not handled the thing all that well either. From the outside it looks like a good way to blow up a franchise.

[url=http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=8920]DenverBroncos.com – Official Website Of The Denver Broncos[/url]

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[quote=T.O.Killa;540963]He is not a crybaby. He was an all pro quarterback that threw for 4500 yards, shattering John Elways record. Thats Hall of Fame John Elways record. If I went to work tomorrow and found out my employer tried to trade me for someone else, I would be pissed. Josh McDaniel's is a punk that screwed up the best part of his team.[/quote]

Yes, he is a crybaby. Trading players is part of the NFL business, and Cutler should know that. You know who's a QB that didn't bitch and whine when there were trade rumors about him? Jason Campbell.

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[quote=The Goat;540966]I bet the Broncos do better w/ McDaniel's and w/o Cutler...[/quote]

Perhaps, but Broncos re taking a big gamble if they think that way.. McDaniel is unproven coach and Cutler is proven pro-bowler QB..

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Wow, i just saw this on Sportnite.
I know Vinnie said he would do it but i'm officially afraid for Campbell right now.

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I hope the Lions get him. I don't want a greedy prima-donna leading this team. I'm pretty sure we can have the ground work to be a sucessful team (in 2 years time probably) w/out Cutler as our QB.

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Like I've said time and time before if we don't pull the trigger on Cutler if he's available then it's our fault if we struggle on offense again this season! Jason is a decent QB and a nice guy but he is NOT a franchise QB and Cutler would make us a contender today! I hope we get him!!!!!!

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[quote=T.O.Killa;540963]He is not a crybaby. He was an all pro quarterback that threw for 4500 yards, shattering John Elways record. Thats Hall of Fame John Elways record. If I went to work tomorrow and found out my employer tried to trade me for someone else, I would be pissed. Josh McDaniel's is a punk that screwed up the best part of his team.[/quote]

You're so wrong it's hilarious. Sure Cutler had a nice year last season numbers-wise. But he is a HUGE crybaby, and if I'm not mistaken he has a losing record as a starter. Player's names are thrown around in trade talk ALL THE TIME. It's the NFL. It's a gritty business. Grow up Jay. So Cutler heard his name was mentioned in a trade rumor. Boo friggin hoo. He handled like a little beeotch. Cried to the media, ignored the coach, and basically pouted and stomped his feet. If he had half a brain he'd look at the work McDaniels has done with Brady and Cassell and realize the future potential.

In Denver with McDaniels, Cutler has a system that's extremely QB friendly, young studs in Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, Tony Sheffler, a good O-line, and a fan base that had already anointed him the next Elway. He let his short temper and stupid pride ruin a situation that was easily amenable.

He's punk moron and I hope he gets shipped off to football purgatory (aka Cleveland or Detroit). Then we'll see where his pouty little mouth is.

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[quote=hamoskinz;540972]i hope the lions get him. I don't want a greedy prima-donna leading this team. I'm pretty sure we can have the ground work to be a sucessful team (in 2 years time probably) w/out cutler as our qb.[/quote]

dude this team is built for winning now!! You can't wait for 2 or 3 more years, plus campbell is already in his mid to late twenties its time to stop giving him the (young) excuse!!

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[quote=gmscud;540975]you're so wrong it's hilarious. Sure cutler had a nice year last season numbers-wise. But he is a huge crybaby, and if i'm not mistaken he has a losing record as a starter. Player's names are thrown around in trade talk all the time. It's the nfl. It's a gritty business. Grow up jay. So cutler heard his name was mentioned in a trade rumor. Boo friggin hoo. He handled like a little beeotch. Cried to the media, ignored the coach, and basically pouted and stomped his feet. If he had half a brain he'd look at the work mcdaniels has done with brady and cassell and realize the future potential.

In denver with mcdaniels, cutler has a system that's extremely qb friendly, young studs in brandon marshall, eddie royal, tony sheffler, a good o-line, and a fan base that had already anointed him the next elway. He let his short temper and stupid pride ruin a situation that was easily amenable.

He's punk moron and i hope he gets shipped off to football purgatory (aka cleveland or detroit). Then we'll see where his pouty little mouth is.[/quote]


wow so he's a punk because he was upset of being traded!! This guy is a superstar in the making and i would take him anyday over campbell!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540977]wow so he's a punk because he was upset of being traded!! This guy is a superstar in the making and i would take him anyday over campbell![/quote]

Yet he's a moron. He had the chance to work with the coach that has been coaching Tom Brady, and as someone mentioned he is in a good situation in Denver where he could be famous and successful for years to come. Instead he's going to go to either Cleveland or Detroit, get a ton of money, and suck for the rest of his career. Yeah, that's smart of him.

Funny how people here cry out how some players are out for the money (Haynesworth, Hall, etc.), scream about character (once again, Haynesworth and hall), yet their hatred of Jason Campbell (since he's been the only reason holding back the team) causes them to throw all of that out the window.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;540967]Not unless Pat Bowlen and Jay Cutler have a wonderful sense of humor. I don't get that vibe. Bad move for the Broncos. Franchise QBs don't just come around that often, they should know that better than most. First get rid of a successful coach and now (in a related move) dump the franchise QB. I know Cutler has been less than mature in this situation, but the team has not handled the thing all that well either. From the outside it looks like a good way to blow up a franchise.

[url=http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=8920]DenverBroncos.com – Official Website Of The Denver Broncos[/url][/quote]

Just saw it on ESPN. Must say I'm surprised. I was not expecting this to happen. While the team made a series of mistakes to be sure, they still hold all the bargaining chips, and so I figured they would play hardball long enough that Cutler would eventually relent and show up to work.

I'm not sure Denver realizes how difficult it is to replace a QB of his caliber. You don't have 3-4 years to coach up every 6th round draft pick into Matt Cassell. Denver lucked into getting the only first round guy in 06 who has panned out to date. Those are difficult odds to replicate.

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Bowlen kind of hinted at this a couple of weeks ago when he said..."I would like to keep him here, obviously," Bowlen told NFL.com. "But if you are going to be an unhappy camper, there is no real reason to be here."

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540976]dude this team is built for winning now!! You can't wait for 2 or 3 more years, plus campbell is already in his mid to late twenties its time to stop giving him the (young) excuse!![/quote]Yeah, you're right. We should trade a lot of valuable crap for someone who is younger, less-mature, and has a shorter fuse. That's how you build for the here and now!

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I think the real question is: what does Brett Favre think of all this?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540973]Like I've said time and time before if we don't pull the trigger on Cutler if he's available then it's our fault if we struggle on offense again this season! Jason is a decent QB and a nice guy but he is NOT a franchise QB and Cutler would make us a contender today! I hope we get him!!!!!![/quote]


I dont want to be a contender today because we dont play today

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[quote=GTripp0012;540983]I think the real question is: what does Brett Favre think of all this?[/quote]

Probably trying out on a Broncos jersey? LOL. :laughing2

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[quote=ruhskins;540979]yet he's a moron. He had the chance to work with the coach that has been coaching tom brady into a hall of famer. Instead he's going to go to either cleveland or detroit, get a ton of money, and suck for the rest of his career. Yeah, that's smart of him.[/quote]

well obviously they did'nt want him man. Mcdaniels wanted a gut to fit their system! Cutler should be upset even if it is a buisness.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540977]wow so he's a punk because he was upset of being traded!! This guy is a superstar in the making and i would take him anyday over campbell![/quote]

First let me just say, if it we could trade Cutler for Campbell straight up I would do it. But it doesn't work that way.

Cutler is not a punk for being upset that his name was in a trade rumor, he's a punk because of the way he handled it. The NFL is a ruthless business. McDaniels turned dirt into gold with Cassell. So what if he inquired about bringing him to Denver?? Cutler had a golden situation and crapped all over it. The way he handled it was pathetic. Something you'd expect from a primadonna WR or CB, not a QB and supposed leader.

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We all have our opinion on Cutler but let's bottom line this. Do you think we'll be in on the trade talks? I know Zorn said Campbell is our guy, but Dan Snyder owns this team so anything can happen. I personally don't want to give up on Campbell. I really like him but I sense the temptation to make another big splash may be too much for Snyder to resist. I hope he exercises some restraint and uses the draft this year. I know we have 5 picks (w/ the compensatory pick), but he can trade down and be creative.

HAIL!

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[quote=30gut;540971]Wow, i just saw this on Sportnite.
I know Vinnie said he would do it but i'm officially afraid for Campbell right now.[/quote]


I would be surprised if we did it(trade for Cutler). Zorn just gave that interview saying JC was the man ,etc. If Danny and Vinny went for Cutler now it would mean the whole organization is out of sync, unless that is Zorn was lying through his teeth and going along with his boss.

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[quote=GTripp0012;540983]I think the real question is: what does Brett Favre think of all this?[/quote]

Oh God. I couldn't take another offseason of that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540973]Like I've said time and time before if we don't pull the trigger on Cutler if he's available then it's our fault if we struggle on offense again this season! Jason is a decent QB and a nice guy but he is NOT a franchise QB and Cutler would make us a contender today! I hope we get him!!!!!![/quote]


I agree with your Campbell comments, but not sure if we should go for Cutler. He is not handling this thing in a professional manner.

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GMScud, you couldn't be more wrong about the Cutler situation. Cutler certainly wasn't happy to hear his name floating in trade talks. Especially since he put in an enormous effort to be at the facility all off season learning the new offense, etc. However, that's not what forced him into shying away from the Broncos.

Jay Cutler initiated the phone call between McDaniels and Cutler. During this phone call McDaniels continued to be a douche. Cutler said all he wanted to hear is that going forward, he was the QB. No one LIKES being discussed in trade talks, but they understand it's a business more than anyone. Mort wrote a great article on it that I posted a while back that shines light on the whole situation.

Instead of taking bits and pieces of a story out of context, educate yourself just a little bit in workings around the league. McDaniels has handled this situation very, very poorly.

Lets be honest here, those of you saying Cutler wasn't that good. Of his interceptions, 75% came in the 4th quarter when behind. This means they're throwing and everyone in the stadium knows it. Secondly, they were the 2nd ranked offense in the NFL, they lost what -- 5 running backs, six maybe -- during the course of the season. And their defense was absolutely atrocious. If the Broncos just had the 15th ranked defense they would have easily won that division and been dangerous in the playoffs.

Campbell is a solid player -- but he's no Cutler.

Link to the Mort article: [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805]Meeting with Josh McDaniels, GM backfires, Jay Cutler asks Denver Broncos for trade - ESPN[/url]

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I would take cutler anyday over campbell. I dont think he is a punk. He deserves to be treated like a #1 qb. I would love to see him leave Denver and them suck next year. Watch us blow another season because Campbell can't be solid all year long. I feel Cutler is right for wanting out. Snyder show him the money!

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Good post Dasel..

I really believe that Cutler is really good QB; as for the situation, I think both parties played the whole thing poorly.. McDaniel and Broncos should have speak to Cutler or even at least let Cutler know that they are considering about trading him away before going out and try to trade Cutler.. Cutler made it into HUGE deal and his stubbornness got in the way, as well..

I'm wondering to see why lot of people seem to believe that McDaniel is going do well? Granted, he proved it when he made Cassell look like a star last season.. But that was in NE Patriots, along with BB and players around him.. If I remember correctly, none of current head coaches that came from BB's crew became successful head coach?

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Payback for Elway and the Colts baby. Seriously though it's really amazing me how things seem to be randomly balancing lately. Anyway I hope he goes to the J-E-T-S jets jets jets. I honestly don't want another top tier QB in the conference. It's hard enough for us to get into the playoffs as it is.

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[quote=Daseal;540993]Lets be honest here, those of you saying Cutler wasn't that good. Of his interceptions, 75% came in the 4th quarter when behind. This means they're throwing and everyone in the stadium knows it. Secondly, they were the 2nd ranked offense in the NFL, they lost what -- 5 running backs, six maybe -- during the course of the season. And their defense was absolutely atrocious. If the Broncos just had the 15th ranked defense they would have easily won that division and been dangerous in the playoffs.

Campbell is a solid player -- but he's no Cutler.[/quote]Didn't all but one of Campbell's interceptions come while behind? Is that not a greater percentage than 75%?

It's a good point that defense quality skews interception totals and Cutler certainly had no breaks from his defense, but it's not like those INTs aren't his fault. He's a career 3 to 2 TD/INT guy. That might not be his ceiling, but I doubt Campbell's ceiling is the 2 to 1 he's currently at.

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My First Post,
So take it easy on me dudes.
I would trade for Cutler in a New York Minute. He has shown what he can do, and that is light up the scoreboard.
Campbell has also shown what he can do. I would expect Campbell to improve as the years go on. But what you see now is what your going to get. There will be no "break out" performance.
You may see some great days, and you will see some very average days.
Just like what you have seen for how many years?

How many Games has Campbell Pulled out for the Skins?

Name Them....

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[quote=GTripp0012;540982]Yeah, you're right. We should trade a lot of valuable crap for someone who is younger, less-mature, and has a shorter fuse. That's how you build for the here and now![/quote]


Campbell isn't the "ONE" Tripp, never was, never will be. He is a decent QB, that will never get this team past maybe the wild card round at best. Sure he has had to learn a lot of new systems, but that is the least of his shortcomings. Not too many folks outside of Skins fandom thinks he is all that either, and I agree. He is good, but not a franchise QB type of guy. I rooted for Gus when he was here, but he didn't get the job done, I rooted for Ramsey too, but he didn't get the job done, and then I was pissed at Gibbs for keeping the fossil Brunell in instead of giving JC a chance. Face it, we have been stuck with subpar to average quarterbacking since Rypien left. That being said I think we do keep Jason this season and let him groom Colt for 2010 or 2011 or somehow draft one of the wonder kids in 2010. Cutler is an upgrade over Campbell, but could be more of a distraction than anything. We are better off keeping JC til we land another potential franchise QB or have Colt be the man in 2010 if he really shows promise. Another thing we have to realize is that this team has too many question marks offensively to really be a contender in '09 in my mind or even 2010. I won''t be surprised if we have to wait for Campbell's succesor's succesor til we get to be solid winners again.